The state of the Japanese Game Industry

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#1 Doug-358
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I believe that seeing the exodus of talent from Capcom may be a good thing because Capcom can bring new face who can make a name for themselves. Square Enix is starting to get the message now and started changing even though people don`t like the change FFXIII took which needed to be done except the linearity. The fear mongering will go away as soon as the studios start coming out with new games that are good and bring fresh ideas to the table. The talent going out and working with western studios will help because they will take the what they learn and incorporate it into their work at home. The industry is changing it is just they are slow to change.
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I think I see it the other way around, but still optimistic.

What I think we see, is alot of great talent being fed up with the strict static infrastructure of the huge devs and pubs over there, and fleeing those, in favor of either the more relaxed western dev teams, or new upstart Japanese Devs.

Well TC Did write about that too, I just think that this aspect is the most important of them.

I have this nagging feeling that the reason that the Japanese games divisions have grinded to a halt, and stuck in the same loop, is largely due to thier infrastructure, and the exodus from various big divisions are a sign that the people with the really good ideas, have had enough, and trying thier luck somewhere else, in hopes of kickstarting the industry again over there, since it seems that those divisions seem not to have the will to try something new, or different.

I hope we see more then a few new (smaller) Japanese Dev houses, begin to make new games, and reimagine genres. Which I am looking farwards to alot.

Those that are heading to the west, I am less thrilled about, but I still think they will be able to make better hybrid games that may appeal to both the Japanese market and the west. I just fear theyve been in said regid infrastructures for so long, that it may make things difficult for them. I hope I am wrong.

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#3 SteveTabernacle
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The solution for the Japanese industry isn't to simply turn into a me too version of the western market. Let's also not forget that not the whole of the Japanese industry is in trouble. Nintendo is in Japan, and they rule the console and portable markets. Nintendo is successful because they don'tmakes games for the west or east, they just make games for people. (and yet still maintain a distinct flavor of gaming) That's the solution.
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#4 Doug-358
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I think I see it the other way around, but still optimistic.

What I think we see, is alot of great talent being fed up with the strict static infrastructure of the huge devs and pubs over there, and fleeing those, in favor of either the more relaxed western dev teams, or new upstart Japanese Devs.

Well TC Did write about that too, I just think that this aspect is the most important of them.

I have this nagging feeling that the reason that the Japanese games divisions have grinded to a halt, and stuck in the same loop, is largely due to thier infrastructure, and the exodus from various big divisions are a sign that the people with the really good ideas, have had enough, and trying thier luck somewhere else, in hopes of kickstarting the industry again over there, since it seems that those divisions seem not to have the will to try something new, or different.

I hope we see more then a few new (smaller) Japanese Dev houses, begin to make new games, and reimagine genres. Which I am looking farwards to alot.

Those that are heading to the west, I am less thrilled about, but I still think they will be able to make better hybrid games that may appeal to both the Japanese market and the west. I just fear theyve been in said regid infrastructures for so long, that it may make things difficult for them. I hope I am wrong.

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If people are leaving then why I am not seeing the exodus for other companies like Konami,Sega, and Square Enix.
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#5 LoG-Sacrament
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japan has a lot of very talented developers. i dont think the problem has anything to do with talent or the need to learn how to develop good games from the west. the problem is that the biggest games (the commercial ones on expensive platforms) are getting dwarfed by western games with bigger budgets. thats just the game you play when you try to appeal to such wide audiences.
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#6 SteveTabernacle
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Square did lose Sakaguchi and Uematsu, Doug.
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#7 Doug-358
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Square did lose Sakaguchi and Uematsu, Doug.SteveTabernacle
That wasn`t as bad as Capcom and why is Nomura still with the company something must be in the water at square enix.
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I liked it better when they didn't try to "westernize" everything.
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#9 SteveTabernacle
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I liked it better when they didn't try to "westernize" everything.Vexx88
Exactly. I have yet to play a Japanese game that made strong attempts to appeal to the west that ended up being anything other than complete crap.
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#10 Doug-358
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[QUOTE="Vexx88"]I liked it better when they didn't try to "westernize" everything.SteveTabernacle
Exactly. I have yet to play a Japanese game that made strong attempts to appeal to the west that ended up being anything other than complete crap.

I like them where thet direction their going because that where all the game industry is going.

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I've wondered for awhile now what has happened. Back in the late 90s RE, FF and MGS were THE games to play and the best. You see I think its probably a growing cultural difference and having better graphics distinguishes the art more. Back in the 90s I dont think FF and MGS felt very japanese and now it feels lole RE MGS and FF are made in a different world.
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#12 Doug-358
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I've wondered for awhile now what has happened. Back in the late 90s RE, FF and MGS were THE games to play and the best. You see I think its probably a growing cultural difference and having better graphics distinguishes the art more. Back in the 90s I dont think FF and MGS felt very japanese and now it feels lole RE MGS and FF are made in a different world. ulable

Where did the idea the MGS is made in another world because MGS 4 was great and didn`t seem Japanese to me.