The Year Is 2020, 2001 is released. (Game based on 9/11)

"2001" is a first person shooter that takes place in the very early 00's, and focuses on the September 11th attacks.

You can play as terrorists (the Taliban), crashing into the twin towers.

There are two campaign modes, one you play as a US Soldier fighting against the Taliban, and the second is visa versa.

Do you buy this game? (reviews give it AAA rating)

at first i was gonna say yes, but then i re-read -very much like COD:MW2. I definitely wouldn't buy a game like MW2 for full priceSilenthps

no i would not

No. No one got shot durring 9/11. Thus it's the shortest shooter ever (which is saying a lot for shooters). I mean as a soldier, you're only mission would be drinking and watching the news of the attacks on television while your buddies are talking in the back about how they'd better get ready for the war that'll be coming. I guess as the terrorists, your job would be to wave your gun at a few scared passangers while your buddy drove the plain into a tower. End Game

Maybe as some really cheap DLC, if they get the immersion right, but nothing else for that length. :P

I don't think it would work. There weren't any sides actually clashing with each other. They just got in and attacked the towers.

I don't know if a game specificaclly about terrorists would be releaseable.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]at first i was gonna say yes, but then i re-read -very much like COD:MW2. I definitely wouldn't buy a game like MW2 for full priceMasterBolt360

Didn't you just get that from MOH? -.-

"2001" is a first person shooter that takes place in the very early 00's, and focuses on the September 11th attacks.

You can play as terrorists (the Taliban), crashing into the twin towers.MasterBolt360

Your first mistake was thinking I'd ever buy a shooter.

Your second mistake was assuming that even if I did like shooters, I would buy a crappy one which seems like its only hook is that it features the 9/11 attacks. Big whoop. I've got better things to do, ESPECIALLY when it's frickin 2020.

There are some subjects that games should not be made after.

Even in 2020, doesn't seem likely to happen. It would be like if they ended up making that Columbine RPG.

There are some subjects that games should not be made after.

darthvader1993

why look at world war 2 millions of people died jews were treated like animals and killed horribly or used as test subjects - compared to two buildings collapsing killing a few people in comparison (not saying it was right because it was a tragic event just like in every event where innocent people die) and yet how many games have we about WW2

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There are some subjects that games should not be made after.

icyseanfitz

why look at world war 2 millions of people died jews were treated like animals and killed horribly or used as test subjects - compared to two buildings collapsing killing a few people in comparison (not saying it was right because it was a tragic event just like in every event where innocent people die) and yet how many games have we about WW2

Has there ever, EVER been a game set in WW2 that features, or even mentions the holocaust?

No.

Its about the soldiers.

A game can't be made from a historic event when the event lasts no longer than a day.

And don't... even... try to describe the The holocaust. You need to take what you said, and multiply it a few times to start to get the feeling of how horrific it was. That is why no game mentions it.

9/11 and the holocaust are two totally different sides of the spectrum, I disrespect neither, but the holocaust was way worse than 9/11.

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[QUOTE="darthvader1993"]

There are some subjects that games should not be made after.

darthvader1993

why look at world war 2 millions of people died jews were treated like animals and killed horribly or used as test subjects - compared to two buildings collapsing killing a few people in comparison (not saying it was right because it was a tragic event just like in every event where innocent people die) and yet how many games have we about WW2

Has there ever, EVER been a game set in WW2 that features, or even mentions the holocaust?

No.

Its about the soldiers.

A game can't be made from a historic event when the event lasts no longer than a day.

And don't... even... try to describe the The holocaust. You need to take what you said, and multiply it a few times to start to get the feeling of how horrific it was. That is why no game mentions it.

9/11 and the holocaust are two totally different sides of the spectrum, I disrespect neither, but the holocaust was way worse than 9/11.

i know it was worse than 9/11 thats why i brought it up, and i also dont see why games wouldnt be able to use or reference the holocaust or 9/11 or any traumatic time or event, either everything is fair game or nothing is, i mean look at the movie industry they have no problem using these events for their productions because they are seen as a mature form of entertainment do the gaming community not strive for the same? or are we always going to be looked at as little kids who play games for fun

I will exept if the game is short lenght :p. You see how many ppl buys ww2 games that was even moreworse then 9/11.

Seems nice to actually play as a terrorist. I've been waiting to play a game like this for a long time.

EDIT: Is there a game like this being made? I can't find it.

Maybe if they took a few liberties.

"It looks like a straight flight to New York Akim, this should go smoothly-oh no! It's the Air Force! Evasive maneuvers!"

Then you'd have to dogfight the air force like Ace Combat.

Or like this.

If it's a good game and not an overhyped CoD clone, yes.

They could make it work.

Using various conspiracy theories.

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[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

why look at world war 2 millions of people died jews were treated like animals and killed horribly or used as test subjects - compared to two buildings collapsing killing a few people in comparison (not saying it was right because it was a tragic event just like in every event where innocent people die) and yet how many games have we about WW2

icyseanfitz

Has there ever, EVER been a game set in WW2 that features, or even mentions the holocaust?

No.

Its about the soldiers.

A game can't be made from a historic event when the event lasts no longer than a day.

And don't... even... try to describe the The holocaust. You need to take what you said, and multiply it a few times to start to get the feeling of how horrific it was. That is why no game mentions it.

9/11 and the holocaust are two totally different sides of the spectrum, I disrespect neither, but the holocaust was way worse than 9/11.

i know it was worse than 9/11 thats why i brought it up

And? TC is talking about making a game based off of 9/11, I said there are events games should not be made after. What is the point of bringing the Holocaust here again?

, and i also dont see why games wouldnt be able to use or reference the holocaust or 9/11 or any traumatic time or event,

They do in a way, lots of games have been set in Alfganistan(sp?) or around the Middle East, without 9/11 there would be no reason to make a game about that area. There certainly are events games and media have been based around, but some are simply best left untouched.

either everything is fair game or nothing is,

Well thats stupid. Whats the problem with a little variety? You don't always have to go on the extreme side of an argument.

i mean look at the movie industry they have no problem using these events for their productions because they are seen as a mature form of entertainment do the gaming community not strive for the same?

Well I saw plenty of 10-yr olds at transformers 2 when I saw it in the theatre, that doesn't make it a mature form of entertainment. It might say mature, but plenty of underaged people engage in it. Children should know about 9/11 and the Holocaust for the sake of respect and knowing the significance of these tragedies. They shouldn't be belittled by having a game made based off of them.

or are we always going to be looked at as little kids who play games for fun

Well, I play games for fun. My other friends in college play for fun. does that make us kids?

No.

Games are meant as a form of entertainment. If you don't play them for fun, well then you're already a lost cause.

"suck it up america, no one cares"

Do you live in Europe? Or somewhere other than America?

Because thats like saying "No one cares about the Holocaust" to a child who's parents never survived it.

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[QUOTE="darthvader1993"]

Has there ever, EVER been a game set in WW2 that features, or even mentions the holocaust?

No.

Its about the soldiers.

A game can't be made from a historic event when the event lasts no longer than a day.

And don't... even... try to describe the The holocaust. You need to take what you said, and multiply it a few times to start to get the feeling of how horrific it was. That is why no game mentions it.

9/11 and the holocaust are two totally different sides of the spectrum, I disrespect neither, but the holocaust was way worse than 9/11.

darthvader1993

i know it was worse than 9/11 thats why i brought it up

And? TC is talking about making a game based off of 9/11, I said there are events games should not be made after. What is the point of bringing the Holocaust here again?

, and i also dont see why games wouldnt be able to use or reference the holocaust or 9/11 or any traumatic time or event,

They do in a way, lots of games have been set in Alfganistan(sp?) or around the Middle East, without 9/11 there would be no reason to make a game about that area. There certainly are events games and media have been based around, but some are simply best left untouched.

either everything is fair game or nothing is,

Well thats stupid. Whats the problem with a little variety? You don't always have to go on the extreme side of an argument.

i mean look at the movie industry they have no problem using these events for their productions because they are seen as a mature form of entertainment do the gaming community not strive for the same?

Well I saw plenty of 10-yr olds at transformers 2 when I saw it in the theatre, that doesn't make it a mature form of entertainment. It might say mature, but plenty of underaged people engage in it. Children should know about 9/11 and the Holocaust for the sake of respect and knowing the significance of these tragedies. They shouldn't be belittled by having a game made based off of them.

or are we always going to be looked at as little kids who play games for fun

Well, I play games for fun. My other friends in college play for fun. does that make us kids?

No.

Games are meant as a form of entertainment. If you don't play them for fun, well then you're already a lost cause.

"suck it up america, no one cares"

Do you live in Europe? Or somewhere other than America?

Because thats like saying "No one cares about the Holocaust" to a child who's parents never survived it.

i live in europe so i know full well what the holocaust is (it was a terrible event). Its sad that some people actually wouldnt have a full understanding of these events (as parents dont tell their kids or are afraid to show them any past human mistakes which is not the way to go), on xbox live i hear all these kids yapping off about this horror and that horror and making fun of them, what my whole argument is ifpeople where shown these events through a medium of some kind (respectfully of course) they would be more inclined to respect these events so that they may never happen again.

The reason i brought the holocaust into this argument was to highlight the point that 9/11 wasnt really all that bad compared to some other events.

I also dont believe any traumatic event should be left untouched as that breeds ignorance of said event.

yes there is nothing wrong with variety (actually my argument kind of leans towards variety) which is why there shouldnt be a limit or ban on what we are allowed to create.

of course there are movies in which children go to as film is a very diverse medium, it caters to every niche unlike gaming which is really only getting into the very un-childish games (heavy rain etc.) i dont mean GTA or the like (even though i love them) as they have always been a bit childish

of course they are meant to be fun every form of entertainment is, its just that i dont see anything wrong with a game being fun and at the same time intellectual

/ rant :roll:

The 9/11 attacks would be better suited in like a new kind of try to not get killed in a massive disaster game. I think there was plans for one using 9/11 as a level. Or maybe that was a what if..but I do remember talking about it. jks22112

I'm pretty sur it was called "Survivor" for the last gen. I was waiting for that game and then they just cancelled it.

Yes. I won't win any brownie points for saying this but it was 9 years ago. It's time to stop acting like it's a fresh wound. Movies, games, etc are going to be made about the event just like they were made of ALL historic events.

Actually I likely wouldn't buy it because I'm not a generic FPS fan. But I see no reason why said game couldn't exist today, even.

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[QUOTE="darthvader1993"]

Has there ever, EVER been a game set in WW2 that features, or even mentions the holocaust?

No.

Its about the soldiers.

A game can't be made from a historic event when the event lasts no longer than a day.

And don't... even... try to describe the The holocaust. You need to take what you said, and multiply it a few times to start to get the feeling of how horrific it was. That is why no game mentions it.

9/11 and the holocaust are two totally different sides of the spectrum, I disrespect neither, but the holocaust was way worse than 9/11.

darthvader1993

i know it was worse than 9/11 thats why i brought it up

And? TC is talking about making a game based off of 9/11, I said there are events games should not be made after. What is the point of bringing the Holocaust here again?

, and i also dont see why games wouldnt be able to use or reference the holocaust or 9/11 or any traumatic time or event,

They do in a way, lots of games have been set in Alfganistan(sp?) or around the Middle East, without 9/11 there would be no reason to make a game about that area. There certainly are events games and media have been based around, but some are simply best left untouched.

either everything is fair game or nothing is,

Well thats stupid. Whats the problem with a little variety? You don't always have to go on the extreme side of an argument.

i mean look at the movie industry they have no problem using these events for their productions because they are seen as a mature form of entertainment do the gaming community not strive for the same?

Well I saw plenty of 10-yr olds at transformers 2 when I saw it in the theatre, that doesn't make it a mature form of entertainment. It might say mature, but plenty of underaged people engage in it. Children should know about 9/11 and the Holocaust for the sake of respect and knowing the significance of these tragedies. They shouldn't be belittled by having a game made based off of them.

or are we always going to be looked at as little kids who play games for fun

Well, I play games for fun. My other friends in college play for fun. does that make us kids?

No.

Games are meant as a form of entertainment. If you don't play them for fun, well then you're already a lost cause.

"suck it up america, no one cares"

Do you live in Europe? Or somewhere other than America?

Because thats like saying "No one cares about the Holocaust" to a child who's parents never survived it.

And as much as that child may cry about it, that won't stop developers from making games with Nazis in them or where you can play as an SS soldier.