There is no more polish in video games anymore

Ill keep this short. The last polished game i played was Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It had almost zero bugs, and did not require a patch to fix anything. There were no graphical or AI bugs and it pretty much was perfect out of the box. I havent played a truly polished game before that in years. All game companies now treat patches as if they can extend dev time after release. That is not how it should work. I dont even have to list the amount of games that had issues out of the box and required a patch (you know what they all are). Why am i waiting for DICE 2 months after the release of BF3 to fix mic issues, and graphical hiccups? Why does Skyrim run like ass on my ps3 after months? Why does Red Dead Redemption have a sh!tload of bugs on releas that lasted for more than a month? Last gen we never had these issues. All games worked 99% perfectly out of the box because devs knew that they couldnt just patch those issues. As a result of the ability to patch games, devs are not pyaing attention to polish. What do you think?

Yes, I know someone from Poland and he is greatly offended by the lack of his ethnicity being represented in games.

I don't remember RDR having bugs..

But play Arkham City, no bugs at all.

You have to know where to look. Generally speaking though, the more a game tries to do the more likely bugs will surface. That's why glitches are more common in open world games. Everything Nintendo makes and Rcksteady's games are good examples of polished products

Deus Ex polished? I remember hearing about problems that needed the patch to fix with that game.

In general, the more complex games are getting, the more bugs they're going to have. Granted, some developers are better than others at doing the most polish before shipping the game, but it's absurd to think that any developer out there can find each and every bug in their coding.

Yes, I know someone from Poland and he is greatly offended by the lack of his ethnicity being represented in games.

TheFallenDemon

Hahaha, oh my.

Last gen almost nobody had their consoles hooked up to the internet, so post-release patches weren't an option. Those games had bugs though.

But yeah, it is getting ridiculous now. I don't see it getting any better - Skyrim sold what, 10 million copies? I wouldn't look for Bethesda to give a damn about game testing any time soon. I just buy my games a year or so after launch when they're nice and cheap and fully patched.

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Deus Ex: HR didn't have alot of bugs but It did have a few, the one that locked your camera too floor level and having to reload a save is quite annoying.

Dude, games will always have bugs in it. Personally, i hated Deus Ex HR but it had little bugs and glitches in it. Now, Vanquish, imo, was a prefect game.

Gears of War 3 and Portal 2 beg to differ.

I think the only people who have a right to complain are people who have made a AAA game that works 100% how they want it to 100% of the time. Find me some of these people and I'll mow your lawn for a year, or vaccuum your rugs if you live in an apartment, or mop your floors if you don't have rugs. However, if you are unable to locate this race of uber developers, you must wear comically large dentures and nerd glasses for a year. Wanna take the deal?

Ill keep this short. The last polished game i played was Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It had almost zero bugs, and did not require a patch to fix anything. There were no graphical or AI bugs and it pretty much was perfect out of the box. I havent played a truly polished game before that in years. All game companies now treat patches as if they can extend dev time after release. That is not how it should work. I dont even have to list the amount of games that had issues out of the box and required a patch (you know what they all are). Why am i waiting for DICE 2 months after the release of BF3 to fix mic issues, and graphical hiccups? Why does Skyrim run like ass on my ps3 after months? Why does Red Dead Redemption have a sh!tload of bugs on releas that lasted for more than a month? Last gen we never had these issues. All games worked 99% perfectly out of the box because devs knew that they couldnt just patch those issues. As a result of the ability to patch games, devs are not pyaing attention to polish. What do you think?

BossPerson

Deus ex: Human Revolution was also a very boring and meh game.

Yes, I know someone from Poland and he is greatly offended by the lack of his ethnicity being represented in games.

TheFallenDemon

Dohoho, looks like we got a funny guy. ^_^

I think its a combination of things. Games are becoming larger and more complex (like Skyrim) which increases the odds of glitches and this is understandable. No developer can catch every single glitch before release, especially in games as large as RDR or Skryim. At the same time I do feel that some developers are relying too heavily on post release patches and maybe aren't putting enough work into weeding out problems before the game hits shelves. Either way glitches are just a part of gaming and is something everyone has to put up with. To be honest some of my most memorable gaming moments were glitches so personally I don't want any game to be completely 100% polished.:P

I don't remember RDR having bugs..

ristactionjakso

Yes, I know someone from Poland and he is greatly offended by the lack of his ethnicity being represented in games.

TheFallenDemon

Yes, I know someone from Poland and he is greatly offended by the lack of his ethnicity being represented in games.

TheFallenDemon

My thought exactly why do the Italians get all the main characters.

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Yes, I know someone from Poland and he is greatly offended by the lack of his ethnicity being represented in games.

juliankennedy23

My thought exactly why do the Italians get all the main characters.

Yes, I know someone from Poland and he is greatly offended by the lack of his ethnicity being represented in games.

TheFallenDemon

Came here to say that, god damn you :(

Play The Witcher 2. Everyone in that game is Polish.

(Also it's a fairly polished game)

Deus Ex polished? Are you joking? It's got to be one of the more unpolished games I've seen. You want to see polished, look at Batman AC or AA. MirkoS77

Yes, I know someone from Poland and he is greatly offended by the lack of his ethnicity being represented in games.

TheFallenDemon

Day 1 patches do kind of bother me but if its going to make my gaming experience better I can wait the extra 2-5 minutes for the patch to download.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]Deus Ex polished? Are you joking? It's got to be one of the more unpolished games I've seen. You want to see polished, look at Batman AC or AA. Am_Confucius

I don't know if you're playing on the PC or not, but when I played it on the 360 it suffered from FR drops, blurry textures and break-up.

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]Deus Ex polished? Are you joking? It's got to be one of the more unpolished games I've seen. You want to see polished, look at Batman AC or AA. MirkoS77

I don't know if you're playing on the PC or not, but when I played it on the 360 it suffered from FR drops, blurry textures and break-up.

Any title from Nintendo, Valve or Blizzard has unbelievable polish but in exchange longer time spans between releases. Bioware and Epic titles are not too shabby either from my experiences.

That's completely bulls***. There is polish in videogames. Ever play Rayman Origins? You should. I constantly hear nothing but positive, great things about that platformer. If that isn't polish, I don't know what is! Also, the 80s and 90s had a ton of videogames that offered PLENTY of polish. And there was a lot of polished games within the last ten years, like Metroid Prime, for instance. As far as Deus Ex HR goes, I can't say for certain if there is or not. I need to get around to playing that...

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]Deus Ex polished? Are you joking? It's got to be one of the more unpolished games I've seen. You want to see polished, look at Batman AC or AA. MirkoS77

I don't know if you're playing on the PC or not, but when I played it on the 360 it suffered from FR drops, blurry textures and break-up.

Its not true that games generally lack pollish , just that some do.

If I play a game like this years Space Marine, I can tell you that it lacks pollish. If I play a game like Uncharted 3, I can tell you that it does not.

Updates and patches are a curse on the gaming industry, I very much agree with this. Day one updates are not needed and are the result of missed deadlines or pushed out games. Ive played many games this year with day one patches, and its a sorry state of affairs.

That being said, I think perhaps if a public beta trial for the game is still running after the discs have been printed then its just about excusable. Just.

Ill also way in on the DE:HR bits. Im playing this on the PS3 now, and it is impecable. No frame rate staggers at all, the game is highly pollished and admitedly far, far better than I was expecting it to be.

p.s - I actually had do google the spelling to be sure I wasnt talking about polish people :P