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Back then: Jag
Today: 3DO
I actually think 3DO has a pretty solid library of games (the best versions of Starfighter 3000, The Need For Speed, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Wolfenstein 3D, Wing Commander III, ect.) and had impressive graphics and sound and multi-media capabilites at the time.
It just cost too much and wasn't advertised well enough (& devs dropping support in favour of newer systems such as Sega Saturn and PS1/PSX).
I haven't played either, but I want both of them. Out of the two of them 3DO is higher in priority for me, the game library just looks better to me.
Normally, I would say the Jaguar, but after thinking it over I would probably say the 3DO. The 3DO had more in common with the other 5th gen systems than the Jaguar. You can find popular games like Return Fire, Gex, Road Rash, and the best home port of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the 3DO. The Jaguar has good games, but you won't see a lot of them on the surface, like Rayman, which is pretty rare and expensive. I honestly think if you know what you're looking for both are pretty decent systems. amari24Im not sure why people seem to claim SSF2T is best on 3DO , its not, the only thing better than other versions is the music, otherwise you would do better by getting the SF Collection on Saturn/PS1. the 3DO version doesn't run as well , graphically its worse (missing background detail , missing background animation, if I remember correctly it wasn't full screen) , and worse controls with the default controller.
3DO. It showed a glimpse of what next-gen would be like before the PSX. Road Rash 3DO still remains my favorite game.
[QUOTE="Sidian1626"]boy is this like choosing between a turd and a...well....turd. But lets try it! after some thought i think the jaguar is the winner here. .... scanning 3DO's library its hard to find covers you even recognize let alone have fond memories of. that isnt to say there isnt a few hidden gems to be had but typically when choosing between two piles of crap ill choose the smaller pile. Jaguar has an incredibly small library of games but that only means you dont have to sit through a ton of garbage to get to the good stuff.rawsavondid you ever even play anything on the 3do? It was actually a really good system with some great games...one of which consistently ranks among the best games of all time in Star Control 2 (the only console release of said game). Games like: The Horde Syndicate Star Control 2 Super Wing Commander Madden FIFA Flashback Gex Another World Wing Commander 3 Alone in the Dark Return Fire Street Fighter 2
yep, the 3DO has more recogniziable franchises
including Star control 2, IGN's 17th best game of all time
including Star control 2, IGN's 17th best game of all timerilpasIt is certainly one of my all-time fav's. There is no telling how many hundreds of hours I poured into that game. Thank goodness for gog.com. I recently repurchased it from them (no longer have my 3do and was feeling really nostalgic)
[QUOTE="rilpas"]including Star control 2, IGN's 17th best game of all timerawsavonIt is certainly one of my all-time fav's. There is no telling how many hundreds of hours I poured into that game. Thank goodness for gog.com. I recently repurchased it from them (no longer have my 3do and was feeling really nostalgic)
you know the game is free now, right? :P
the developers released it in open source :P
did you ever even play anything on the 3do? It was actually a really good system with some great games...one of which consistently ranks among the best games of all time in Star Control 2 (the only console release of said game). Games like: The Horde Syndicate Star Control 2 Super Wing Commander Madden FIFA Flashback Gex Another World Wing Commander 3 Alone in the Dark Return Fire Street Fighter 2[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Sidian1626"]boy is this like choosing between a turd and a...well....turd. But lets try it! after some thought i think the jaguar is the winner here. .... scanning 3DO's library its hard to find covers you even recognize let alone have fond memories of. that isnt to say there isnt a few hidden gems to be had but typically when choosing between two piles of crap ill choose the smaller pile. Jaguar has an incredibly small library of games but that only means you dont have to sit through a ton of garbage to get to the good stuff.rilpas
yep, the 3DO has more recogniziable franchises
including Star control 2, IGN's 17th best game of all time
I sadly couldn't get into Star Control 2 . also one game which I don't think got mentioned , Samurai Shodown, with the exception of the awful sound samples, is actually a great port.[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] did you ever even play anything on the 3do? It was actually a really good system with some great games...one of which consistently ranks among the best games of all time in Star Control 2 (the only console release of said game). Games like: The Horde Syndicate Star Control 2 Super Wing Commander Madden FIFA Flashback Gex Another World Wing Commander 3 Alone in the Dark Return Fire Street Fighter 2Darkman2007
yep, the 3DO has more recogniziable franchises
including Star control 2, IGN's 17th best game of all time
I sadly couldn't get into Star Control 2 . also one game which I don't think got mentioned , Samurai Shodown, with the exception of the awful sound samples, is actually a great port.i mentioned it in my post :P
I sadly couldn't get into Star Control 2 . also one game which I don't think got mentioned , Samurai Shodown, with the exception of the awful sound samples, is actually a great port.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="rilpas"]
yep, the 3DO has more recogniziable franchises
including Star control 2, IGN's 17th best game of all time
rilpas
i mentioned it in my post :P
heh , I didn't see it. good game though , here is one thing nobody said , the 3DO needed an RGB output, it has S-video , which is ok , but given that older systems like the SMS had RGB , it should have :P unless you mod it, youre stuck with S-video.3DO. The Jaguar wasn't an underrated system, it really was a PoS.
Apathetic_Prick
From what I've seen, it has hands-down the best Aliens vs. Predator game out there. And Tempest 2000 looks awesome. But for the price it goes for, yeah, not worth it, IMO. Some of the other great games for it have since been ported to more popular systems and PC like Rayman, Doom, and Wolfenstein 3-D.
But I wouldn't mind having one if I came across one at a great price.
Hi, I am with the Atari Defense force and... I am afraid I will have to give you this $80 bill you have to pay for attacking a console you never owned. We take credit. Don't worry, we use the money to make awesome music and hire more Dj's. There's this great one called DJ-Dampleaf if you seen him. buy some of his stuff and maybe we might take $1 off your ticket. There is no court either, you don't pay it's immediate execution by Lamp.3DO. The Jaguar wasn't an underrated system, it really was a PoS.
Apathetic_Prick
[QUOTE="Apathetic_Prick"]Hi, I am with the Atari Defense force and... I am afraid I will have to give you this $80 bill you have to pay for attacking a console you never owned. We take credit. Don't worry, we use the money to make awesome music and hire more Dj's. There's this great one called DJ-Dampleaf if you seen him. buy some of his stuff and maybe we might take $1 off your ticket. There is no court either, you don't pay it's immediate execution by Lamp.3DO. The Jaguar wasn't an underrated system, it really was a PoS.
Dj-Dampleaf
Wow that post just gave me douche chills. Was that supposed to be funny?
I agree with him and I have owned it, and except for few good games here and there it's is a pos that's not really worth owning.
Hi, I am with the Atari Defense force and... I am afraid I will have to give you this $80 bill you have to pay for attacking a console you never owned. We take credit. Don't worry, we use the money to make awesome music and hire more Dj's. There's this great one called DJ-Dampleaf if you seen him. buy some of his stuff and maybe we might take $1 off your ticket. There is no court either, you don't pay it's immediate execution by Lamp.[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Apathetic_Prick"]
3DO. The Jaguar wasn't an underrated system, it really was a PoS.
thecrypticodor
Wow that post just gave me douche chills. Was that supposed to be funny?
I agree with him and I have owned it, and except for few good games here and there it's is a pos that's not really worth owning.
The way you decided to have an insulting tone in your post makes me think you never actually owned one. Here's why. You has the time to make a negative post at me for no real reason, and yes that was a joke, but provided no details on anything you said. Instead you attacked me, on a joke. Why? I do not agree with you however truth or not if you owned it, but this post was not called for.and also 3do had star control 2. an aaa title, only console version in existance and better than the pc version was. that alone makes the 3do worthwile and you will also love it if you like pc/amiga gaming of early/mid 90s, also one of reasons I love sega cd so much
The 3DO had the best FMV quality that gen, beating the PSX's and Saturns FMV with WC3 being near god DVD Quality. Although it is slightly different with cartoon drawn FMV, which would have the Japanese Adventure system (it's actually called the NEC PC-FX, but come on, even Japan didn't like it and called it the same thing.) Te Jaguar had some pretty great games as well, looking at a comparison of good to amazing games for each: Jaguar: 1.Rayman 2.Atari Karts 3.Fractured Furrytales 4.Zool 2 5.Alien Vs. Predator 6.Best looking/running version of doom (downgraded sound, windowed.) 7.Battlemorph (JagCD) 8.Brutal Sports Football 9.Dragons Lair (JAGCD)(Most responsive version) 10.Tempest 2000 11.Defender 2000 12.Missile Command 3D 14.Power Drive 15.Primal Rage (JAGCD) 16.Checkered Flag 17.Raiden 18.Hyper Force 19.I-War(I like it anyway, good music too.) 20.Super Burnout 21.Super Burnout 22.iron Soldier 23.Iron Soldier 2 (JAGCD) 24.Super Burnout 25.Tower II (great for WRPG fans.) 26.Zoop 27.Wolfenstein 28.Breakout 2000 30.Theme Park 31.Protector For that list. Now for the 3DO: 1.Gex 2.The Need For Speed 3. SSF2T 4.FIFA 5.Immercenary(Decent) 6.Samurai Showdown 7.John Madden 8.Shock Wave 9.Shock Wave 2 10.Wing Commander III 11.Total Eclipse 12.Battle Sport 13.Alone in the Dark 14.Super Wing Commander 15.Crash N Brun 16.Slam and Jam 17. Casper 18.DD:Slayer 19.Best console version of Dragons Lair that Gen. 20.DD:Deathkeep 21.stellar 7 22.Night Trap 23.Escape from Monster manor 24.PGA Tour 25.Novastorm 26.Road Rash 27.Phoenix 3 28.Captain Quazar 29.Flash Back 30.Alone in the Dark 2 31.Another World 32.Star Control 2 33.Return Fire 34.Lucinnes Quest 35.Wolfenstein 36.Blade Force 37.Foes of Ali 38.Killing Time 39.Bust a Move 40.Starblade 41.Mad Dog Mccree 42.Mad Dog II 43.Dragon Lore 44.Panzer General 45.Fortress at sea 46.VR Stalker 47.Soccer Kid 48.Off-Wrold Interceptor 49.Mega Race 50.MYST Both have great games, and you could say the 3D) list means nothing, but let's be honest, the Jaguar is great to have, but stopping it from the best of all status is the fact it has way too little games. While the 3DO had quality and Quantity, and while I might have to nitpick in order to expand the jaguar list, i could easily stack several more to the 3DO list. Not to mention all those region free japanese ports as well, making it so I can add double several more. Eye of Typhoon is a good example. If you read my incredibly lengthy blog: http://www.gamespot.com/users/Australianpope/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25992456 somewhere toward the middle I make it known the 3D0 was my primary gaming system for a good many years before the PSX, N64, and re-buying the Saturn. I would say from 93 to 96ish which in 96ish i stopped collecting games, I mean 4 systems for god sake, I was broke just collecting for 2. But the 3DO has plenty of great games, and I can see it easily outdoing many systems, maybe even the N64, but that's mostly because of the type of games in it library while I prefer games on 3Do and Playstation, and Saturn to i. To be honest the only bad systems during 5th gen was I guess you could say the struggling CD-I, the horrific Neo-GeoCD, the black and white Neo-Geo Pocket, and the PC-FX. Oh, and virtual Boy. Everything else was pretty solid, and the PC-FX nobody cared about so it doesn't count unless you like tons of Japanese Adventure games and visual novels. Trust me, I have one, stay far away. if it's not Turbo16, don't buy it. So in conclusion i would speak on behalf of 3DO, only surpassed by the Playstation and on par with pretty much everything else.Australianpope
Good list, I would put Worms in the Jaguar list as well. I owned a Jaguar and I think it is a classic game console, with many flaws but hey, it is an Atari. Never had a 3DO but it felt like an interesting machine to have had, my vote, 3DO.
I used to own a 3DO [sold it a few years back to help pay for school :(] IMO it was a great system. All of my friends that played it at the time really enjoyed it. It also had a lot of great games as others have mentioned. I never owned a Jaguar so I can't really comment on it.
I would choose the 3DO again though. Road Rash for 3DO still remains one of my favorite games of all time. Also, as another member has mentioned "the bad games were so bad they were good"... I have to completely agree with that statement. Look up Way of the Warrior, soo bad it's good :)
I would try the Atari Jaguar. The infamous 64-bit Videogame console released by Atari. Who encouraged everyone to "do The Math" At the Dawn of the 32-bit CD Rom era. 3D gaming was just getting underway. The 3DO, Sega Saturn, Sony Playstation, Philips CDi Even Commadore all had 32-bit Videogaming systems coming out.
In 1993 Nintendo just had the SNES a 16-bit console. Even SNK had a "24-bit" system the Neo Geo. This was the era when "bits" meant something. So Atari decided to get the jump on everyone. The 64-bit Atari Jaguar was born.
But it has 2 processors 'Tom" and "Jerry" each were 32-bit. So by doing the math. 32bit + 32bit = 64bits. Thus with a bit of marketing Atari had a 64-bit console. Kinda like the TurboGraphx 16. One of the processors was 16 bit. The graphics co-processor was 16bit. But not the main CPU which just was 8-bit. But with creative marketing. The TurboGraphx-16 Super system. Was billed as a 16-bit console. So Atari did the same with the Jaguar to bill it as a 64-bit console.
But other then Tempest, Aliens vs predator, a half decent port of DOOM. The games sucked. But I have never played Atari's last home videogame console. Atari was once a important part of gaming. The Atari 2600, The Atari 5200 and the Atari lynx were there other main products. But the Atari Jaguar only last 2 years. Then Atari died;.
So I would try the Atari Jaguar even though it had the worst controller and except for 4 games. This 64-bit console didn't quite live up to the promise. Even if you did the math.
The Jag has some cool-looking (and unknown) 3D games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IjRir-2KMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DOnv4alP6U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCg9o65RynQ
And believe it or not, it also has a fan following and a strong homebrew/demo scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnXTEQZLj8c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd07QHBtYJI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAkbSa4jNOM
There are more than 3 games that people and critics liked on the system (no Jaguar, no Rayman.) and it lasted more than 2 years. But I have to say i didn't think the 3DO had fans.I would try the Atari Jaguar. The infamous 64-bit Videogame console released by Atari. Who encouraged everyone to "do The Math" At the Dawn of the 32-bit CD Rom era. 3D gaming was just getting underway. The 3DO, Sega Saturn, Sony Playstation, Philips CDi Even Commadore all had 32-bit Videogaming systems coming out.
In 1993 Nintendo just had the SNES a 16-bit console. Even SNK had a "24-bit" system the Neo Geo. This was the era when "bits" meant something. So Atari decided to get the jump on everyone. The 64-bit Atari Jaguar was born.
But it has 2 processors 'Tom" and "Jerry" each were 32-bit. So by doing the math. 32bit + 32bit = 64bits. Thus with a bit of marketing Atari had a 64-bit console. Kinda like the TurboGraphx 16. One of the processors was 16 bit. The graphics co-processor was 16bit. But not the main CPU which just was 8-bit. But with creative marketing. The TurboGraphx-16 Super system. Was billed as a 16-bit console. So Atari did the same with the Jaguar to bill it as a 64-bit console.
But other then Tempest, Aliens vs predator, a half decent port of DOOM. The games sucked. But I have never played Atari's last home videogame console. Atari was once a important part of gaming. The Atari 2600, The Atari 5200 and the Atari lynx were there other main products. But the Atari Jaguar only last 2 years. Then Atari died;.
So I would try the Atari Jaguar even though it had the worst controller and except for 4 games. This 64-bit console didn't quite live up to the promise. Even if you did the math.
Megavideogamer
Fast Forward to the current new generation Xbox One and PlayStation 4, these lackluster console upgrades are mere modern versions of the 3DO and Jaguar CD.
Only thing different this time is there really is no alternative for the consumer. Back in 1994-95 there was.
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