Video games not worth their value

The other day, I went to one of my favorite video game stores; they have probably the best selection of games across all platforms that I've ever seen, and also have a healthy import selection. But anyhow, while I was there, I couldn't help but notice that they got a copy of Megaman X3 in for the SNES. They wanted $115 dollars for it, which is cheap compared to its current value af around $150. What blows my mind is that this game has seen several re-releases on other consoles, specifically the PS2 and GC Megaman X collection and also was ported to the Saturn in japan. Seriously, how the hell is it still worth that much. IMO, it's ridiculous that people would still pay that much for it given the cheaper alternatives to own and play it. Here are a few other games that I feel are not worth their wight in gold currently:

- Castlevania Dracula X(SNES) - I could understand this game being valuable when no other option existed in North America to play the original Rondo of Blood, but we now have a PSP and Virtual Console ports of it, yet it still fetches a ridiculous $80 to $100 on Ebay for the loose cart???

- Mario Party games (N64, GC) - With the exception of the Wii games (because they are current gen and all current gen games are usually pricier), I have no idea why Mario Party games still command such a high price. Having played most of them, I feel like once you've played the new one, it kinda makes the old one obsolete. I understand they have different mini games and boards, but you can only play a board game so much before it's like, "okay, I've seen this before."

- Earthbound (SNES) - I feel like no other game has had it's value so wildly augmented by fanboyism and overhyping as this game. Having recently had the opportunity to play it, I cannot see how it garners such a huge pricetag. Many claim that it's because it's a rare game, but it isn't really. While it's no Super Mario World in terms of being common, it could be found fairly easily at video game retailers on the mid 90s, some of which had it marked down to like $10 to $20 in 1996 and 1997. Honestly, I feel like $50 could be justified with that game, but $150 to $200 just for a loose cart. . .SERIOUSLY!

- Cheetahmen 2 (NES) - Yeah, it's super rare, but good lord it's an unfinished, train wreck of a game. I understand it's collectors wanting it so bad, but I feel like whether you collect or not, paying hundreds, sometimes thousands for this game makes you kind of an idiot.

So here are a few that I feel shouldn't be worth their value, what are some games that you feel this way about?

Suikoden 2. It goes for 100$+ for a used copy, 500$ for a new copy. From what I have played of the first Suikoden (it didn't seem like anything particularly special), there's no fvcking way I'm forking over 100$+ for its sequel. So, unless the game dramatically comes down in price, I'll have never played Suikoden 2.

The other day, I went to one of my favorite video game stores; they have probably the best selection of games across all platforms that I've ever seen, and also have a healthy import selection. But anyhow, while I was there, I couldn't help but notice that they got a copy of Megaman X3 in for the SNES. They wanted $115 dollars for it, which is cheap compared to its current value af around $150. What blows my mind is that this game has seen several re-releases on other consoles, specifically the PS2 and GC Megaman X collection and also was ported to the Saturn in japan. Seriously, how the hell is it still worth that much. IMO, it's ridiculous that people would still pay that much for it given the cheaper alternatives to own and play it. Here are a few other games that I feel are not worth their wight in gold currently:

- Castlevania Dracula X(SNES) - I could understand this game being valuable when no other option existed in North America to play the original Rondo of Blood, but we now have a PSP and Virtual Console ports of it, yet it still fetches a ridiculous $80 to $100 on Ebay for the loose cart???

- Mario Party games (N64, GC) - With the exception of the Wii games (because they are current gen and all current gen games are usually pricier), I have no idea why Mario Party games still command such a high price. Having played most of them, I feel like once you've played the new one, it kinda makes the old one obsolete. I understand they have different mini games and boards, but you can only play a board game so much before it's like, "okay, I've seen this before."

- Earthbound (SNES) - I feel like no other game has had it's value so wildly augmented by fanboyism and overhyping as this game. Having recently had the opportunity to play it, I cannot see how it garners such a huge pricetag. Many claim that it's because it's a rare game, but it isn't really. While it's no Super Mario World in terms of being common, it could be found fairly easily at video game retailers on the mid 90s, some of which had it marked down to like $10 to $20 in 1996 and 1997. Honestly, I feel like $50 could be justified with that game, but $150 to $200 just for a loose cart. . .SERIOUSLY!

- Cheetahmen 2 (NES) - Yeah, it's super rare, but good lord it's an unfinished, train wreck of a game. I understand it's collectors wanting it so bad, but I feel like whether you collect or not, paying hundreds, sometimes thousands for this game makes you kind of an idiot.

So here are a few that I feel shouldn't be worth their value, what are some games that you feel this way about?

Shenmue_Jehuty

Nice list. I agree with them all.

I'd also add Panzer Dragoon: Saga on Saturn. No 1 video game that's not an actual arcade cabinet should cost that much.

Most every other PC-ENGINE CD-ROM game is overprized. Even games that are just OK are expensive in comparison with other systems.

That said console games can't compare at all at how expensive arcade boards go for nowadays.

I started collecting arcade games in 1999 and ever since then prices have spiked up considerably.

- Castlevania Dracula X(SNES) - I could understand this game being valuable when no other option existed in North America to play the original Rondo of Blood, but we now have a PSP and Virtual Console ports of it, yet it still fetches a ridiculous $80 to $100 on Ebay for the loose cart???

- Mario Party games (N64, GC) - With the exception of the Wii games (because they are current gen and all current gen games are usually pricier), I have no idea why Mario Party games still command such a high price. Having played most of them, I feel like once you've played the new one, it kinda makes the old one obsolete. I understand they have different mini games and boards, but you can only play a board game so much before it's like, "okay, I've seen this before."

- Earthbound (SNES) - I feel like no other game has had it's value so wildly augmented by fanboyism and overhyping as this game. Having recently had the opportunity to play it, I cannot see how it garners such a huge pricetag. Many claim that it's because it's a rare game, but it isn't really. While it's no Super Mario World in terms of being common, it could be found fairly easily at video game retailers on the mid 90s, some of which had it marked down to like $10 to $20 in 1996 and 1997. Honestly, I feel like $50 could be justified with that game, but $150 to $200 just for a loose cart. . .SERIOUSLY!

- Cheetahmen 2 (NES) - Yeah, it's super rare, but good lord it's an unfinished, train wreck of a game. I understand it's collectors wanting it so bad, but I feel like whether you collect or not, paying hundreds, sometimes thousands for this game makes you kind of an idiot.

Shenmue_Jehuty

All those (especially Earthbound) and most older console are hiking up in price. For example, I constantly see NES's go for $80 or $60 on craigslist.

Daytona USA: CCE Netlink Edition. For the same price you could probably get a decent condition Daytona arcade machine.

Daytona USA: CCE Netlink Edition. For the same price you could probably get a decent condition Daytona arcade machine.

SonOfChewbacca

Unless the game is close to US$1000, I doubt it because that's probably around how much a single type DAYTONA USA cabinet would cost, if not more.

[QUOTE="SonOfChewbacca"]

Daytona USA: CCE Netlink Edition. For the same price you could probably get a decent condition Daytona arcade machine.

Panzer_Zwei

Unless the game is close to US$1000, I doubt it because that's probably around how much a single type DAYTONA USA cabinet would cost, if not more.

There was a March 2010 eBay auction where it sold for $1100.

In cases like MMX3 and Dracula X you're paying for that specific version/experience which is what collectors seem to be after. There's also the notion that titles like those are in (perceived) uncommonly low circulations for their established franchises I suppose. I do however agree with you in regards to your opinion in cases like Cheetahmen 2 (not about the game though). I don't see much of a point in paying high prices for "bad" rare games or games I never plan to even try to play at all. Meanwhile it's interesting how rereleases haven't managed to chop down many titles. Look at:

• Chrono Trigger
• Dracula X (the actual one on TGCD, which supposedly isn't actually rare)
• Guardian Heroes
• Ikaruga (Dreamcast, though this did take a dent I think)
• Marvel vs Capcom 2
• Radiant Silvergun (not only on XBLA but not exactly rare either)
• Street Fighter Zero 3 (Saturn)
• Various common Nintendo titles (many hold solid values of $20+)
• Various popular PS1 games in black label form (the FF games for example)

Demand is of course a powerful thing.

Kirby Air Ride

Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door

Kid Icarus: of Myths and Monsters

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance

Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean

Any Tales of game

Well received NES games

.....hell..pretty much every Nintendo game is over priced, I live in West London, all listings online are ridiculous aswell to add

In cases like MMX3 and Dracula X you're paying for that specific version/experience which is what collectors seem to be after. There's also the notion that titles like those are in (perceived) uncommonly low circulations for their established franchises I suppose. I do however agree with you in regards to your opinion in cases like Cheetahmen 2 (not about the game though). I don't see much of a point in paying high prices for "bad" rare games or games I never plan to even try to play at all. Meanwhile it's interesting how rereleases haven't managed to chop down many titles. Look at:

• Chrono Trigger
• Dracula X (the actual one on TGCD, which supposedly isn't actually rare)
• Guardian Heroes
• Ikaruga (Dreamcast, though this did take a dent I think)
• Marvel vs Capcom 2
• Radiant Silvergun (not only on XBLA but not exactly rare either)
• Street Fighter Zero 3 (Saturn)
• Various common Nintendo titles (many hold solid values of $20+)
• Various popular PS1 games in black label form (the FF games for example)

Demand is of course a powerful thing.

Exceed20XX

Of those you listed, Chrono Trigger is another game I cannot for the life of me understand why it still sells for $50+ for the cart alone when you can get it on the PS1 for like $10 as part of Final Fantasy Chronicles. Also Marvel vs Capcom 2 has become way more affordable over the past 5 years. I remember the PS2 version used to be worth $80+ used, but I think it being released on XBLA and PSN really hit the value of that game hard. However, you'd think Radiant Silvergun's value would have taken a hit for the same reason, but it still sells for over $100 all the time?

[QUOTE="Exceed20XX"]

In cases like MMX3 and Dracula X you're paying for that specific version/experience which is what collectors seem to be after. There's also the notion that titles like those are in (perceived) uncommonly low circulations for their established franchises I suppose. I do however agree with you in regards to your opinion in cases like Cheetahmen 2 (not about the game though). I don't see much of a point in paying high prices for "bad" rare games or games I never plan to even try to play at all. Meanwhile it's interesting how rereleases haven't managed to chop down many titles. Look at:

• Chrono Trigger
• Dracula X (the actual one on TGCD, which supposedly isn't actually rare)
• Guardian Heroes
• Ikaruga (Dreamcast, though this did take a dent I think)
• Marvel vs Capcom 2
• Radiant Silvergun (not only on XBLA but not exactly rare either)
• Street Fighter Zero 3 (Saturn)
• Various common Nintendo titles (many hold solid values of $20+)
• Various popular PS1 games in black label form (the FF games for example)

Demand is of course a powerful thing.

Shenmue_Jehuty

Of those you listed, Chrono Trigger is another game I cannot for the life of me understand why it still sells for $50+ for the cart alone when you can get it on the PS1 for like $10 as part of Final Fantasy Chronicles. Also Marvel vs Capcom 2 has become way more affordable over the past 5 years. I remember the PS2 version used to be worth $80+ used, but I think it being released on XBLA and PSN really hit the value of that game hard. However, you'd think Radiant Silvergun's value would have taken a hit for the same reason, but it still sells for over $100 all the time?

I bought Chrono Trigger on Wii Virtual Console for $10. Plays just fine using a Gamecube pad. I haven't run into any weird glitches or emulation problems yet.

Of those you listed, Chrono Trigger is another game I cannot for the life of me understand why it still sells for $50+ for the cart alone when you can get it on the PS1 for like $10 as part of Final Fantasy Chronicles. Also Marvel vs Capcom 2 has become way more affordable over the past 5 years. I remember the PS2 version used to be worth $80+ used, but I think it being released on XBLA and PSN really hit the value of that game hard. However, you'd think Radiant Silvergun's value would have taken a hit for the same reason, but it still sells for over $100 all the time?

Shenmue_Jehuty

The reason I listed MvC2 still is because it's a little bit surprising that with the multitude of versions out there (like MMX3) that the physical copies still hold a decent value ($20-40 from what I saw but it has been a while since I looked). The values were definitely hit (just like with Ikaruga) but they still seem a tad high (to me anyway) given the game's proliferation.

Meanwhile Radiant Silvergun actually did take a hit from my understanding, the thing is that hit wasn't strong enough. Supposedly it went from the high 100s (maybe very low 200s?) range into the lower-mid 100s range.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

Of those you listed, Chrono Trigger is another game I cannot for the life of me understand why it still sells for $50+ for the cart alone when you can get it on the PS1 for like $10 as part of Final Fantasy Chronicles. Also Marvel vs Capcom 2 has become way more affordable over the past 5 years. I remember the PS2 version used to be worth $80+ used, but I think it being released on XBLA and PSN really hit the value of that game hard. However, you'd think Radiant Silvergun's value would have taken a hit for the same reason, but it still sells for over $100 all the time?

Exceed20XX

The reason I listed MvC2 still is because it's a little bit surprising that with the multitude of versions out there (like MMX3) that the physical copies still hold a decent value ($20-40 from what I saw but it has been a while since I looked). The values were definitely hit (just like with Ikaruga) but they still seem a tad high (to me anyway) given the game's proliferation.

Meanwhile Radiant Silvergun actually did take a hit from my understanding, the thing is that hit wasn't strong enough. Supposedly it went from the high 100s (maybe very low 200s?) range into the lower-mid 100s range.

With Radiant Silvergun that was well before it was announced for XBLA it was worth around $200. I actually bought my copy on Ebay a month before it was announced on XBLA and I paid $98 for a complete copy when they were typically going for $125 to $150. And that price range is about what that game has stayed at regardless of the XBLA release. At least it's not worth around $200 any longer lol.

A lot of Nintendo and Sega games. Some Sony games as well.

Suikoden 2. It goes for 100$+ for a used copy, 500$ for a new copy. From what I have played of the first Suikoden (it didn't seem like anything particularly special), there's no fvcking way I'm forking over 100$+ for its sequel. So, unless the game dramatically comes down in price, I'll have never played Suikoden 2.

GreySeal9

wow, what a ridiculous comment this is. you haven't even played suikoden 2 and are clealry clueless on it

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

bultje112

Gotta be the Pokemon games... I just saw Pokemon Gold for 50 bucks...now I understand 50 bucks with game, box, booklet, complete brand new, but with nothing but the game, it's not worth it... Now this is worth the price, but still far too much... rwallacefan

Pokemon was what I was gonna say too. There are very few games that are less rare than Pokemon games and yet they still seem to command a premium price on the used market.

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

bultje112

A lot of games are overpriced, it's not 'simply', if I took a game that I have that is complete with the manual and a crystal clear disc, and the plastic is a mirror sheen, I can just say "oh this is worth £150", that's pretty much how most people price games, and then the domino effect occurs where people say "I wonder how much this game is worth" *sees my listing for £150* "Wow!! it's worth £150!!!"

I am not saying I'm against paying the full retail price of what a game originally was (or max 15% more), but to increase it is dumb, especially when most of them are used.

I don't know how the listings etc for hard to find games are wherever you live, but I live in the UK and, for example, I've been searching for a copy of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for over a year that isn't going for more than £70 used...

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Suikoden 2. It goes for 100$+ for a used copy, 500$ for a new copy. From what I have played of the first Suikoden (it didn't seem like anything particularly special), there's no fvcking way I'm forking over 100$+ for its sequel. So, unless the game dramatically comes down in price, I'll have never played Suikoden 2.

bultje112

wow, what a ridiculous comment this is. you haven't even played suikoden 2 and are clealry clueless on it

^bultje112=mad.

Well, yeah, clearly I haven't played it because I'm not going to fork over 100$+. That would be ridiculous when I can get more than five RPGs that are more appealing to me for the same price. And unless Suikoden 2 is radically different than Suikoden 1, I don't feel like I missing out on much. As far as I'm concerned, Suikoden 2 would have to be the the best RPG ever made for me to pay 100$+ for a used copy and even then I'd feel like I paid too much.

That's not to say it's objectively overpriced. Obviously, the game is quite rare, thus the extremely high price. But that doesn't change the fact that 100$+ is more than I'd ever be willing to pay. I mean, on Amazon, the game goes for 100+ even without a manual and case.

Depends on who many people want a complete collection of the original games. I guess if people are willing to pay X amount of dollars for X cartridge.

It is not like any one is really going to see that super rare videogame in someones collection other than a handfull of people.

Value of a videogame can change with the demand. As long as they play it and enjoy it. Then the person can pay whatever price for a game that is not really worth their value.

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

bultje112

I understand the whole market price thing and yes, objectively Earthbound is worth about $200 because that's what people are consistantly willing to pay for it, however the purpose of my thread was to point out retro games that in no way deserve their pricetag. There are games that I would agree are worth what their market prices dictate, however many aren't worth even close to what they sell for online based on content and the game itself. Of course, determining this is somewhat subjective depending on the person (would personally pay $100+ for Shenmue, but that's just me), but I wanted people to state the games they felt in no way deserve their pricetag.

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

Shenmue_Jehuty

I understand the whole market price thing and yes, objectively Earthbound is worth about $200 because that's what people are consistantly willing to pay for it, however the purpose of my thread was to point out retro games that in no way deserve their pricetag. There are games that I would agree are worth what their market prices dictate, however many aren't worth even close to what they sell for online based on content and the game itself. Of course, determining this is somewhat subjective depending on the person (would personally pay $100+ for Shenmue, but that's just me), but I wanted people to state the games they felt in no way deserve their pricetag.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

Heirren

I understand the whole market price thing and yes, objectively Earthbound is worth about $200 because that's what people are consistantly willing to pay for it, however the purpose of my thread was to point out retro games that in no way deserve their pricetag. There are games that I would agree are worth what their market prices dictate, however many aren't worth even close to what they sell for online based on content and the game itself. Of course, determining this is somewhat subjective depending on the person (would personally pay $100+ for Shenmue, but that's just me), but I wanted people to state the games they felt in no way deserve their pricetag.

It is a good game and yes, it is rarer now because it has been out of print for nearly 18-years, however it had a high production run even if it did not sell well. I wish I could remember where I read this article, but it more or less said that many copies of Earthbound were sold on clearance because at the time it was released it was vastly overlooked by many SNES owners. Regardless, the many copies that were made did sell eventually. The reason why it has become so colossal in price is the result of high demand mixed with the current collectability of the SNES and its games.

I recently got to borrow Earthbound from a friend and so far I consider it to be slightly above average in terms of RPGs on the SNES. Mind you games better than it (FFIV, FFVI, Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, and Lufia, to name a few) cost anywhere from a 3rd to a 10th of what Earthbound typically goes for. Again, this is a matter of personal opinion based on my feelings of those games and Earthbound, but I cannot justify, even if I really liked Earthbound, it being worth more than $100 on a good day given its content and overall entertainment value. Personally, I'd probably only pay $60 tops for it given how I feel about it. I'm glad that you feel differently about it, and obviously if you do you might not mind forking over $200 for a copy, but there is no way in hell I'd pay even half that for Earthbound given my opinion of it.

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I understand the whole market price thing and yes, objectively Earthbound is worth about $200 because that's what people are consistantly willing to pay for it, however the purpose of my thread was to point out retro games that in no way deserve their pricetag. There are games that I would agree are worth what their market prices dictate, however many aren't worth even close to what they sell for online based on content and the game itself. Of course, determining this is somewhat subjective depending on the person (would personally pay $100+ for Shenmue, but that's just me), but I wanted people to state the games they felt in no way deserve their pricetag.

Shenmue_Jehuty

It is a good game and yes, it is rarer now because it has been out of print for nearly 18-years, however it had a high production run even if it did not sell well. I wish I could remember where I read this article, but it more or less said that many copies of Earthbound were sold on clearance because at the time it was released it was vastly overlooked by many SNES owners. Regardless, the many copies that were made did sell eventually. The reason why it has become so colossal in price is the result of high demand mixed with the current collectability of the SNES and its games.

I recently got to borrow Earthbound from a friend and so far I consider it to be slightly above average in terms of RPGs on the SNES. Mind you games better than it (FFIV, FFVI, Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, and Lufia, to name a few) cost anywhere from a 3rd to a 10th of what Earthbound typically goes for. Again, this is a matter of personal opinion based on my feelings of those games and Earthbound, but I cannot justify, even if I really liked Earthbound, it being worth more than $100 on a good day given its content and overall entertainment value. Personally, I'd probably only pay $60 tops for it given how I feel about it. I'm glad that you feel differently about it, and obviously if you do you might not mind forking over $200 for a copy, but there is no way in hell I'd pay even half that for Earthbound given my opinion of it.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] Are you saying Earthbound isn't worth the price? I think it is the epitome of a game that should be expensive. First, it was rare in the first place, and is even more rare, now. Second, the people that want this game are people that legitimately want to play it and are willing to pay to do so. Third, it's an excellent game.Heirren

It is a good game and yes, it is rarer now because it has been out of print for nearly 18-years, however it had a high production run even if it did not sell well. I wish I could remember where I read this article, but it more or less said that many copies of Earthbound were sold on clearance because at the time it was released it was vastly overlooked by many SNES owners. Regardless, the many copies that were made did sell eventually. The reason why it has become so colossal in price is the result of high demand mixed with the current collectability of the SNES and its games.

I recently got to borrow Earthbound from a friend and so far I consider it to be slightly above average in terms of RPGs on the SNES. Mind you games better than it (FFIV, FFVI, Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, and Lufia, to name a few) cost anywhere from a 3rd to a 10th of what Earthbound typically goes for. Again, this is a matter of personal opinion based on my feelings of those games and Earthbound, but I cannot justify, even if I really liked Earthbound, it being worth more than $100 on a good day given its content and overall entertainment value. Personally, I'd probably only pay $60 tops for it given how I feel about it. I'm glad that you feel differently about it, and obviously if you do you might not mind forking over $200 for a copy, but there is no way in hell I'd pay even half that for Earthbound given my opinion of it.

How so? Would you pay $1000 for a copy of Cheetahmen 2? It's very, very collectable despite being a total unfinished, unplayable mess. If you answer no, then you are essentially placing a price to entertainment as well.

Yes, I do place prices on entertainment value, if I didn't I would have no problem buying rubish games based only the fact that they are super rare. I only see purpose in spending my money on games I would actually enjoy playing. If a game is trash or just does not look appealing to me I will not buy it, period.

Pretty much any of the neo geo stuff. Too expensive.

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

It is a good game and yes, it is rarer now because it has been out of print for nearly 18-years, however it had a high production run even if it did not sell well. I wish I could remember where I read this article, but it more or less said that many copies of Earthbound were sold on clearance because at the time it was released it was vastly overlooked by many SNES owners. Regardless, the many copies that were made did sell eventually. The reason why it has become so colossal in price is the result of high demand mixed with the current collectability of the SNES and its games.

I recently got to borrow Earthbound from a friend and so far I consider it to be slightly above average in terms of RPGs on the SNES. Mind you games better than it (FFIV, FFVI, Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, and Lufia, to name a few) cost anywhere from a 3rd to a 10th of what Earthbound typically goes for. Again, this is a matter of personal opinion based on my feelings of those games and Earthbound, but I cannot justify, even if I really liked Earthbound, it being worth more than $100 on a good day given its content and overall entertainment value. Personally, I'd probably only pay $60 tops for it given how I feel about it. I'm glad that you feel differently about it, and obviously if you do you might not mind forking over $200 for a copy, but there is no way in hell I'd pay even half that for Earthbound given my opinion of it.

Shenmue_Jehuty

How so? Would you pay $1000 for a copy of Cheetahmen 2? It's very, very collectable despite being a total unfinished, unplayable mess. If you answer no, then you are essentially placing a price to entertainment as well.

Yes, I do place prices on entertainment value, if I didn't I would have no problem buying rubish games based only the fact that they are super rare. I only see purpose in spending my money on games I would actually enjoy playing. If a game is trash or just does not look appealing to me I will not buy it, period.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"] Well personally I rented it way back when, and I'd only buy it today if I found it at a decent price. I also think its better than all the FF games on the snes--it was one of my favorites back then. Placing the price to entertainment is flawed as it has become a collectible.Heirren

How so? Would you pay $1000 for a copy of Cheetahmen 2? It's very, very collectable despite being a total unfinished, unplayable mess. If you answer no, then you are essentially placing a price to entertainment as well.

Yes, I do place prices on entertainment value, if I didn't I would have no problem buying rubish games based only the fact that they are super rare. I only see purpose in spending my money on games I would actually enjoy playing. If a game is trash or just does not look appealing to me I will not buy it, period.

Really? $1000 for a game console? That's insane. I would NEVER pay that much.

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

How so? Would you pay $1000 for a copy of Cheetahmen 2? It's very, very collectable despite being a total unfinished, unplayable mess. If you answer no, then you are essentially placing a price to entertainment as well.

Yes, I do place prices on entertainment value, if I didn't I would have no problem buying rubish games based only the fact that they are super rare. I only see purpose in spending my money on games I would actually enjoy playing. If a game is trash or just does not look appealing to me I will not buy it, period.

Emerald_Warrior

Really? $1000 for a game console? That's insane. I would NEVER pay that much.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] Well personally I rented it way back when, and I'd only buy it today if I found it at a decent price. I also think its better than all the FF games on the snes--it was one of my favorites back then. Placing the price to entertainment is flawed as it has become a collectible.Heirren

How so? Would you pay $1000 for a copy of Cheetahmen 2? It's very, very collectable despite being a total unfinished, unplayable mess. If you answer no, then you are essentially placing a price to entertainment as well.

Yes, I do place prices on entertainment value, if I didn't I would have no problem buying rubish games based only the fact that they are super rare. I only see purpose in spending my money on games I would actually enjoy playing. If a game is trash or just does not look appealing to me I will not buy it, period.

Lucky for you many of those consoles can be obtained for less than $1000 new. For example, just yesterday I was watching a brand new Sega Saturn on Ebay. I had no intention of buying it, I was just curious to see how much it went for. It ended up selling for $600 so that's not bad, at least compared to $1000. Seeing how you can get a Saturn in mint condition for no more than $50, I would never spend the extra cash just to have a new Saturn. They work all the same and are just as fun used.

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

How so? Would you pay $1000 for a copy of Cheetahmen 2? It's very, very collectable despite being a total unfinished, unplayable mess. If you answer no, then you are essentially placing a price to entertainment as well.

Yes, I do place prices on entertainment value, if I didn't I would have no problem buying rubish games based only the fact that they are super rare. I only see purpose in spending my money on games I would actually enjoy playing. If a game is trash or just does not look appealing to me I will not buy it, period.

Shenmue_Jehuty

Lucky for you many of those consoles can be obtained for less than $1000 new. For example, just yesterday I was watching a brand new Sega Saturn on Ebay. I had no intention of buying it, I was just curious to see how much it went for. It ended up selling for $600 so that's not bad, at least compared to $1000. Seeing how you can get a Saturn in mint condition for no more than $50, I would never spend the extra cash just to have a new Saturn. They work all the same and are just as fun used.

All retro overpriced games are not worth it. It just has that price for guillible collectors who don't even play the game after they acquire it. I mean, the developers get ziltch outta the transaction.

If a current gen game is overpriced. that's simply taking advantage of high demand. Either by the developer or retailer.

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

Heirren

if it's greedyness it's going to bit you back in the ass at one point anyway. when a game is bought for a certain price then it's worth it. people whine about online and shop prices being too high, well gues what? nobody is buying them for these ridiculous prices. that's why many shops go out and all the same games are stuck on ebay

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

NirdBerd

A lot of games are overpriced, it's not 'simply', if I took a game that I have that is complete with the manual and a crystal clear disc, and the plastic is a mirror sheen, I can just say "oh this is worth £150", that's pretty much how most people price games, and then the domino effect occurs where people say "I wonder how much this game is worth" *sees my listing for £150* "Wow!! it's worth £150!!!"

I am not saying I'm against paying the full retail price of what a game originally was (or max 15% more), but to increase it is dumb, especially when most of them are used.

I don't know how the listings etc for hard to find games are wherever you live, but I live in the UK and, for example, I've been searching for a copy of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for over a year that isn't going for more than £70 used...

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Fire-Emblem-path-radiance-Gamecube-Nintendo-Wii-VF-/271134683590?pt=FR_Jeux_Vid%C3%A9o&hash=item3f20e2f1c6

look what I found in only 3 seconds!! only 30 pounds used...

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

Shenmue_Jehuty

I understand the whole market price thing and yes, objectively Earthbound is worth about $200 because that's what people are consistantly willing to pay for it, however the purpose of my thread was to point out retro games that in no way deserve their pricetag. There are games that I would agree are worth what their market prices dictate, however many aren't worth even close to what they sell for online based on content and the game itself. Of course, determining this is somewhat subjective depending on the person (would personally pay $100+ for Shenmue, but that's just me), but I wanted people to state the games they felt in no way deserve their pricetag.

then there is one game that is worst it's the golden version of nintendo championships, which is basiclaly a few levels of other nes games and it's worth around 25.000 $

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

no game is overpriced. it's simply market price and videogaming, especially 2nd hand is about the only true free market that exists. so people shouldn't whine. there are some games wildly overrated though and I couldn't agree more on earthboud. holy mother of god, is that overrated

bultje112

I understand the whole market price thing and yes, objectively Earthbound is worth about $200 because that's what people are consistantly willing to pay for it, however the purpose of my thread was to point out retro games that in no way deserve their pricetag. There are games that I would agree are worth what their market prices dictate, however many aren't worth even close to what they sell for online based on content and the game itself. Of course, determining this is somewhat subjective depending on the person (would personally pay $100+ for Shenmue, but that's just me), but I wanted people to state the games they felt in no way deserve their pricetag.

then there is one game that is worst it's the golden version of nintendo championships, which is basiclaly a few levels of other nes games and it's worth around 25.000 $

I could not agree more. I feel it should be worth a little more given its relevance to video game history, but nowhere near $25,000. Tops, given its rarity, historical relevance, yet it's utter lack of content, I'd never place it above $100. Mant would completely disagree with me on that, but really when it comes down to it, you're paying $25000 for a few levels of 3 games that have a combined value of $10 for their full-game counterparts. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

I mean in terms of game value is't not worth it. but to a collector I can definitely see the point. there are baseball cards worth millions of dollars, so I don't see why games couldn't if there are only a few released from it years from now

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I understand the whole market price thing and yes, objectively Earthbound is worth about $200 because that's what people are consistantly willing to pay for it, however the purpose of my thread was to point out retro games that in no way deserve their pricetag. There are games that I would agree are worth what their market prices dictate, however many aren't worth even close to what they sell for online based on content and the game itself. Of course, determining this is somewhat subjective depending on the person (would personally pay $100+ for Shenmue, but that's just me), but I wanted people to state the games they felt in no way deserve their pricetag.

Shenmue_Jehuty

then there is one game that is worst it's the golden version of nintendo championships, which is basiclaly a few levels of other nes games and it's worth around 25.000 $

I could not agree more. I feel it should be worth a little more given its relevance to video game history, but nowhere near $25,000. Tops, given its rarity, historical relevance, yet it's utter lack of content, I'd never place it above $100. Mant would completely disagree with me on that, but really when it comes down to it, you're paying $25000 for a few levels of 3 games that have a combined value of $10 for their full-game counterparts. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

I think it's the cartridge and it's historical relevance that gives that it's price, not the actual game data. But yeah $25,000 is a dumb price for any game...

the only one I can think of is Earthbound , simply because I can't afford it now ...

A lot of older games didn't sell as many copies as todays games. Look at the price of Metroid Trilogy compaired to a game like Casltevania Dracula X. The prices aren't that far off. Alot of older games didn't survive over the years. At one point they were practically worthless so people didn't hang on to them. I think Dracula X only sold somewhere between 500K and 800K. Thats not a lot of copies. A lot of these old games may have even been destroyed by gamestop or other companies that went under like Funcoland.

I just started collecting withing the last 2 years. I've paid $100+ for some old games. I prefer the authenic experiance to emulation. I like owning the cart and being able to put it in the system. I don't forsee prices coming down anytime soon so it's money in the bank.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

then there is one game that is worst it's the golden version of nintendo championships, which is basiclaly a few levels of other nes games and it's worth around 25.000 $

NirdBerd

I could not agree more. I feel it should be worth a little more given its relevance to video game history, but nowhere near $25,000. Tops, given its rarity, historical relevance, yet it's utter lack of content, I'd never place it above $100. Mant would completely disagree with me on that, but really when it comes down to it, you're paying $25000 for a few levels of 3 games that have a combined value of $10 for their full-game counterparts. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

I think it's the cartridge and it's historical relevance that gives that it's price, not the actual game data. But yeah $25,000 is a dumb price for any game...

I agree, it is historical, and even with the lack of content on the cart, I would agree that it deserves a significant markup in price. However, $25,000 for video game is obsurd, as his paying the same amount or higher for a baseball card, comic book or other collectables. Honestly the only reason I could thin of why buying a game as vauable and rare and Nintendo World Championship would be worth it would be as a potential investment. Kind of like Action Comic #1 is worth over a million, I could maybe see the Gold NWC cart being worth the same in 40+ years from now. Although, I still think that would be ridiculous that someone would actually pay that much money for it, much less $25k.

[QUOTE="NirdBerd"]

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I could not agree more. I feel it should be worth a little more given its relevance to video game history, but nowhere near $25,000. Tops, given its rarity, historical relevance, yet it's utter lack of content, I'd never place it above $100. Mant would completely disagree with me on that, but really when it comes down to it, you're paying $25000 for a few levels of 3 games that have a combined value of $10 for their full-game counterparts. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

Shenmue_Jehuty

I think it's the cartridge and it's historical relevance that gives that it's price, not the actual game data. But yeah $25,000 is a dumb price for any game...

I agree, it is historical, and even with the lack of content on the cart, I would agree that it deserves a significant markup in price. However, $25,000 for video game is obsurd, as his paying the same amount or higher for a baseball card, comic book or other collectables. Honestly the only reason I could thin of why buying a game as vauable and rare and Nintendo World Championship would be worth it would be as a potential investment. Kind of like Action Comic #1 is worth over a million, I could maybe see the Gold NWC cart being worth the same in 40+ years from now. Although, I still think that would be ridiculous that someone would actually pay that much money for it, much less $25k.

I agree. The only way I'd pay that much for such collectibles is if I was well-off, lived in a big house, had a great car, and had absolutley no worries about bills or money because I had so much dough.