after playing vietcong at pro level there is no game still that competeswith the fluidity of diving and gunplay, the speed of bullet and accuracy is still way on top!. i played it tonite for the first time for 2 years online as i had difficulty installing it and getting it to work on vista. vietcong 2 is average really compared and after playing counterstrike and call of duty 4 and world at war i was addicted all nite long. the best game next to vc is operation flashpoint and i hope that u can create ur own maps and scenarios on that like cold war. vietcong just absolutley absorbs ur energy and makes u churn till there is nothing left, but unlike other games u cannot leave. just like to say this to any PRO vietcong gamers out there! every one else who didnt work the patches simply doesnt understand. thanks vietcong 1 producers for the best online gaming experience of my life!!!!!!!!!!!