Warcraft 4, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2..... Coming or not?

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#1 kill_m3s4r
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I have been shocked when i was browsing Blizzards website and read out that they are starting the project of Starcraft 2.It was last summer then and i was suprised that they had a plan that Starcraft 2 is going to hit the shelfs in the first quater of 2007. Now thats changed. And warcraft? Frozen throne dates back to 2003! And Diablo? I think Blizzard is paying too much atention to WoW. I think not everybody has yet The Burning Crucide and they announcied The wraith of the lich king? Will we ever see the next gen. of Warcraft and Diablo?

sorry, but maybe my topic has not much meaning.

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Personally, I have played almost every Blizzard game, only missing The Burning Crusade and Warcraft (the original, I played the second and third) and my least favorite was WoW, as addicting as it was. I would rather see them go back to their RTS and RPG/Action Adventure routes with Warcraft 4, Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3, and offer free online over Battle.net again. I would probably find the time to upgrade my computer then, just because Blizzard makes such good quality games, but that is not profitable for them, because right now there is millions of people forking over money just to keep playing WoW, and they are literally printing money because of it. They shouldn't ignore the popularity of Diablo II's online though, many of my days were spent doing Baal runs, and that was some of my best gaming times.
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Baal runs totally kicked ass. Those twits better make Diablo 3 or I'm sueing them. I don't know for what yet but I'll think of something!
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#4 Nick-42
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I do anything for Warcraft IV, but I'm not really sure how'd it work with WoW co-existing.
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#5 Archangel3371
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I don't think it's a question of if those games will ever come out but more of a question of when. I really don't blame them for heavily supporting World of Warcraft since it's a phenom so it's pretty much money in the bank to make some expansions for the game and you definately want to keep those customers happy both for that product and future games.

I would imagine Diablo 3 would be a game to come out before Warcraft IV and Starcraft 2 is obviously coming out perhaps even this year but I'm betting on a 2009 release. Wasn't it anounced that they have another MMO in the planning stages?

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#6 FlaminDeath
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If you look at the release dates of their games, Blizzard always takes at least 5 years to make a sequel to a game.
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#7 bigmit37
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I don't think it's a question of if those games will ever come out but more of a question of when. I really don't blame them for heavily supporting World of Warcraft since it's a phenom so it's pretty much money in the bank to make some expansions for the game and you definately want to keep those customers happy both for that product and future games.

I would imagine Diablo 3 would be a game to come out before Warcraft IV and Starcraft 2 is obviously coming out perhaps even this year but I'm betting on a 2009 release. Wasn't it anounced that they have another MMO in the planning stages?

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I think they are working on another MMO. Maybe a few years after Starcraft 2 is released, they will release an MMORTS...

who knows..I pretty much stopped caring till we get some release dates...and hopefully diablo isn't an MMO.

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WarCraft is now an MMO. Diablo is most likely going to become an MMO (which would actually be a good thing, unless its like every other MMO made). And StarCraft II should be coming mid to late 2008, which considering it was just announced a little while ago is pretty damn good for Blizzard.
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#9 Haee
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WarCraft is now an MMO. Diablo is most likely going to become an MMO (which would actually be a good thing, unless its like every other MMO made). And StarCraft II should be coming mid to late 2008, which considering it was just announced a little while ago is pretty damn good for Blizzard.foxhound_fox

It would bekinda stupid if they actually make Diablo 3 a MMO because Blizzard is essentially making their own competition and also I wouldnt go assume that Starcraft 2 is going to come mid-late 2008 considering the fact that Blizzard hasnt "said" anything about a release date at all

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of the 3 games, warcraft 4 is very far away. i think diablo 3 is the next game after starcraft 2 which is probably after wrath of the lich king

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Just because WOW is an MMO doesn't mean that they are going to stop developing Warcraft RTS. Blizzard is just notoriously slow at getting sequels out. It took them 7 years to finally release Warcraft 3 and its taken 10 years to release Starcraft 2. Once Starcraft is out I'm sure we'll hear something about WC4 or Diablo 3.
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Just because WOW is an MMO doesn't mean that they are going to stop developing Warcraft RTS. Blizzard is just notoriously slow at getting sequels out. It took them 7 years to finally release Warcraft 3 and its taken 10 years to release Starcraft 2. Once Starcraft is out I'm sure we'll hear something about WC4 or Diablo 3.H3LLRaiseR

Agreed. WoW won't stop another Warcraft RTS game from coming out. I'm guessing a Diablo game will be next in line though after Starcraft 2. Perhaps things will pick up at Blizzard now that they are a part of Vivendi and with all the money rolling in from WoW plus it looks like they have been doing some hiring for awhile now.

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Starcraft II is due this year, and I believe it will actually arrive this year since they game was pretty much in full playable form last summer (it's been in development since 2003) and they are pretty much polishing it right now.

Diablo III is rumored to be in development, and also rumored that it'll be announced this year....we do know for a fact that Blizzard is working on a new single player project for PC codenamed "Hydra" which isn't related to Starcraft or Warcraft, so many think this is Diablo III, this is backed up by the fact the a couple of years ago Blizzard was hiring prominant Single Player RPG developers and writers, such as Leonard Beyorsky (one of the main guys who created Fallout and later helped design Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines at Troika). Around 2003 and 2004 Blizzard was hiring prominent RTS developers for a then-unannounced project which at the time was rumored to be Starcraft II....which later proved to be true. Given the same pattern in happening, but this time with RPG designers, it's lead to speculation that Diablo III is coming.
At the same time some Blizzard developers confirmed they were working on a new MMO project that isn't Warcraft.......some (including myself) speculate that this is also Diablo III, and that Diablo III will actually be a joint single player RPG with an MMO-like multiplayer component. Makes sense since both the Single Player and Multiplayer were a big part of the previous Diablo games, and it would be foolish to abandon either, so knowning Blizzard they will most likely expand on both components of that series.

Warcraft 4......The Warcraft series is currently an MMO based one, and Blizzard's RTS team has their hands full with Starcraft II at the moment, maybe after that releases they'll begin development on a new Warcraft based RTS game.

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Starcraft 2 is coming out soon, that should satisfy some rts craving. I'm still playing Warcraft 3 again these days and the graphics have aged well so far, I'm not in a hurry for a 4th iteration. I think if they release Diablo 3, it might be in the vein of Hellgate or Guild Wars in terms of offline and online components.
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Starcraft 2 is definlty coming out this year andthey are not going to change the release date.Its been 10 long years,if they dont release it this year a lot of people are going to be pissed.

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Starcraft 2 is definlty coming out this year andthey are not going to change the release date.Its been 10 long years,if they dont release it this year a lot of people are going to be pissed.sithlord300

The entire nation of South Korea would be at their front door if that were to happen.
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Starcraft 2 has been confirmed, despite the fact it looks likesh-t just more copied material from warhammer 40k

I doubt there will be a warcraft 4 until they decide to pull the plug on WOW

there will never be a Diablo 3 A: because the end of Diablo 2 expansion left no room for a sequel that can actually include Diablo himself, B: I don't think Blizzard owns all the rights to Diablo, they probably do, but I think Diablo 1 was made by a different company

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Starcraft 2 has been confirmed, despite the fact it looks likesh-t just more copied material from warhammer 40k

I doubt there will be a warcraft 4 until they decide to pull the plug on WOW

there will never be a Diablo 3 A: because the end of Diablo 2 expansion left no room for a sequel that can actually include Diablo himself, B: I don't think Blizzard owns all the rights to Diablo, they probably do, but I think Diablo 1 was made by a different company

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Why would WOW impede development of a Warcraft RTS? The two are developed by different teams. in fact, WOW was developed alongside Warcraft 3.

Blizzard definately owns Diablo, they developed and published both games. And it doesn't matter if the ending to Diablo 2 left the story open for a sequel -- thats what they hire writers for.

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[QUOTE="DiabolicalX"]

Starcraft 2 has been confirmed, despite the fact it looks likesh-t just more copied material from warhammer 40k

I doubt there will be a warcraft 4 until they decide to pull the plug on WOW

there will never be a Diablo 3 A: because the end of Diablo 2 expansion left no room for a sequel that can actually include Diablo himself, B: I don't think Blizzard owns all the rights to Diablo, they probably do, but I think Diablo 1 was made by a different company

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Why would WOW impede development of a Warcraft RTS? The two are developed by different teams. in fact, WOW was developed alongside Warcraft 3.

Blizzard definately owns Diablo, they developed and published both games. And it doesn't matter if the ending to Diablo 2 left the story open for a sequel -- thats what they hire writers for.

my point about WoW stands, its simple, you cannot make an RTS that will fundamentally change the structure of the games universe when at the same time you have about 9 million people playing in it already, there would be an immense amount of complaints about how the story is being screwed up, suddenly you would have people quiting WoW because they thought that the series had moved on, the closest they could get to a warcraft 4 at the moment would be with another expansion for WoW and if I'm not mistaken thats what they are making now.

And thanks for confirming the Diablo thing, I was nearly sure I read a differnt company developed it, though I was sure Blizzard published it. And the story is closed off, they essentially announced it at the end of Diablo 2 expansion, and you can't have a Diablo 3 without Diablo, I'd be impressed if they can find a way to ressurect it, I'd be happy to play it, seeings as its the only original game Blizzard has ever made.

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#20 erawsd
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[QUOTE="H3LLRaiseR"][QUOTE="DiabolicalX"]

Starcraft 2 has been confirmed, despite the fact it looks likesh-t just more copied material from warhammer 40k

I doubt there will be a warcraft 4 until they decide to pull the plug on WOW

there will never be a Diablo 3 A: because the end of Diablo 2 expansion left no room for a sequel that can actually include Diablo himself, B: I don't think Blizzard owns all the rights to Diablo, they probably do, but I think Diablo 1 was made by a different company

DiabolicalX

Why would WOW impede development of a Warcraft RTS? The two are developed by different teams. in fact, WOW was developed alongside Warcraft 3.

Blizzard definately owns Diablo, they developed and published both games. And it doesn't matter if the ending to Diablo 2 left the story open for a sequel -- thats what they hire writers for.

my point about WoW stands, its simple, you cannot make an RTS that will fundamentally change the structure of the games universe when at the same time you have about 9 million people playing in it already, there would be an immense amount of complaints about how the story is being screwed up, suddenly you would have people quiting WoW because they thought that the series had moved on, the closest they could get to a warcraft 4 at the moment would be with another expansion for WoW and if I'm not mistaken thats what they are making now.

And thanks for confirming the Diablo thing, I was nearly sure I read a differnt company developed it, though I was sure Blizzard published it. And the story is closed off, they essentially announced it at the end of Diablo 2 expansion, and you can't have a Diablo 3 without Diablo, I'd be impressed if they can find a way to ressurect it, I'd be happy to play it, seeings as its the only original game Blizzard has ever made.

Well, for one thing, I highly doubt that the bulk of WOWs fan base cares that much about the story. Besides that, its very easy to work around storyline conflict. For example, they could simply set WC4 ahead of WOW in the time line (which is what I'd expect them to do anyway). That gives them enough room to continue developing ideas for the WOW universe and it allows them to create a new story for WC4 (which WOW2 can then pick up and conclude).

Same deal with Diablo 3, its totally up to the creativity of the writers. Blizzard has even gone back and changed existing lore in Warcraft to continue WOW's storyline.

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[QUOTE="DiabolicalX"][QUOTE="H3LLRaiseR"][QUOTE="DiabolicalX"]

Starcraft 2 has been confirmed, despite the fact it looks likesh-t just more copied material from warhammer 40k

I doubt there will be a warcraft 4 until they decide to pull the plug on WOW

there will never be a Diablo 3 A: because the end of Diablo 2 expansion left no room for a sequel that can actually include Diablo himself, B: I don't think Blizzard owns all the rights to Diablo, they probably do, but I think Diablo 1 was made by a different company

H3LLRaiseR

Why would WOW impede development of a Warcraft RTS? The two are developed by different teams. in fact, WOW was developed alongside Warcraft 3.

Blizzard definately owns Diablo, they developed and published both games. And it doesn't matter if the ending to Diablo 2 left the story open for a sequel -- thats what they hire writers for.

my point about WoW stands, its simple, you cannot make an RTS that will fundamentally change the structure of the games universe when at the same time you have about 9 million people playing in it already, there would be an immense amount of complaints about how the story is being screwed up, suddenly you would have people quiting WoW because they thought that the series had moved on, the closest they could get to a warcraft 4 at the moment would be with another expansion for WoW and if I'm not mistaken thats what they are making now.

And thanks for confirming the Diablo thing, I was nearly sure I read a differnt company developed it, though I was sure Blizzard published it. And the story is closed off, they essentially announced it at the end of Diablo 2 expansion, and you can't have a Diablo 3 without Diablo, I'd be impressed if they can find a way to ressurect it, I'd be happy to play it, seeings as its the only original game Blizzard has ever made.

Well, for one thing, I highly doubt that the bulk of WOWs fan base cares that much about the story. Besides that, its very easy to work around storyline conflict. For example, they could simply set WC4 ahead of WOW in the time line (which is what I'd expect them to do anyway). That gives them enough room to continue developing ideas for the WOW universe and it allows them to create a new story for WC4 (which WOW2 can then pick up and conclude).

Same deal with Diablo 3, its totally up to the creativity of the writers. Blizzard has even gone back and changed existing lore in Warcraft to continue WOW's storyline.

look, I would love for them to make another Diablo game, I just can't see it happening anytime soon.

What you are saying about WoW and WC4 makes no sense, your saying to make a sequel without stopping the progress of the story in the current story, that would be impossible, though I could see them making somekind of Prequel esque thing relating to Outland, though I sill highly doubt there will be another WC RTS for quite sometime, just cause half the WoW players don't care about the story doesn't mean that Blizzard can essentially twist around the story, thats what Fantasy games' backbone is, a good story

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look, I would love for them to make another Diablo game, I just can't see it happening anytime soon.

What you are saying about WoW and WC4 makes no sense, your saying to make a sequel without stopping the progress of the story in the current story, that would be impossible, though I could see them making somekind of Prequel esque thing relating to Outland, though I sill highly doubt there will be another WC RTS for quite sometime, just cause half the WoW players don't care about the story doesn't mean that Blizzard can essentially twist around the story, thats what Fantasy games' backbone is, a good story

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As you've pointed out, these are fantasy stories. Its a world of the author's imagination, and as such they are free to write anything they want. They can go back and insert in new details or rewrite old bits to develop a new storyline. NOTHING is impossible. If Blizzard's executives decide they want WC4 and Diablo 3, then its going to happen.

WC4 can definitely co-exist. Like I said, they can simply set WC4 years after WOW. None of the storylines in the Warcraft games have been directly related anyway. The sequels pick up many years after the events of the previous titles and they've even had an almost entirely new cast each time. Again, its entirely at the mercy of the writer's imagination.

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i wish that the next game of blizzard will be of diablo. As hell raiser said about the end of Diablo 2 i think after the release starcraft 2(if it worked)diablo 3 will be next!
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#24 nopalversion
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If they want Starcraft 2 to be as long-lived as the last one, then there's no chance they'll do another RTS anytime soon. Plus, they have already announced a new MMORPG, unrelated to WoW.
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#25 DiabolicalX
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[QUOTE="DiabolicalX"]

look, I would love for them to make another Diablo game, I just can't see it happening anytime soon.

What you are saying about WoW and WC4 makes no sense, your saying to make a sequel without stopping the progress of the story in the current story, that would be impossible, though I could see them making somekind of Prequel esque thing relating to Outland, though I sill highly doubt there will be another WC RTS for quite sometime, just cause half the WoW players don't care about the story doesn't mean that Blizzard can essentially twist around the story, thats what Fantasy games' backbone is, a good story

H3LLRaiseR

As you've pointed out, these are fantasy stories. Its a world of the author's imagination, and as such they are free to write anything they want. They can go back and insert in new details or rewrite old bits to develop a new storyline. NOTHING is impossible. If Blizzard's executives decide they want WC4 and Diablo 3, then its going to happen.

WC4 can definitely co-exist. Like I said, they can simply set WC4 years after WOW. None of the storylines in the Warcraft games have been directly related anyway. The sequels pick up many years after the events of the previous titles and they've even had an almost entirely new cast each time. Again, its entirely at the mercy of the writer's imagination.

All the stories have been directly related, 1, 2 and 3 all tied togeth, especially 1 and 2. And it might be possible, but it's just not logical. Keep in mind that it is no longer the Blizzard executives choice, Vivendi bought out Blizzard, so it's their choice now, so if we consatantly berate them, then there may be a Diablo 3 and a WC4, but WoW is taking up to much space, and is reeling in to much money.

And when it comes to writing stories, only the most pathetic will go back and rewrite it, I'm not trying to tell you to give up hope on this, frankly I would love another Diablo game, but they rounded of the story so well in the last game, that it will take a long time for them to pull it out of the ground again.

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I don't think it's a question of if those games will ever come out but more of a question of when. I really don't blame them for heavily supporting World of Warcraft since it's a phenom so it's pretty much money in the bank to make some expansions for the game and you definately want to keep those customers happy both for that product and future games.

I would imagine Diablo 3 would be a game to come out before Warcraft IV and Starcraft 2 is obviously coming out perhaps even this year but I'm betting on a 2009 release. Wasn't it anounced that they have another MMO in the planning stages?

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NEW FRANCHISE TIME!!!!!