Was Rockstar a successful company before GTA 3?

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#1 Shut-Your-Face
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When GTA 3 was released, it was a huge turning point in the GTA series and the game sold like freakin' hotcakes. I still remember the commercial for it with the car doing that huge jump and opera music playing in the background. Ever since then, every game they release seems to be gold. Red Dead Redemption, LA Noire, etc. But was Rockstar a successful company before they released GTA 3? Or was it GTA 3 that made them?
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#2 ExoticAnimal
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There's no denying that GTA3 made them who they are today but I'd like to think that they were a good company before the release of GTA3. They had games like Midnight Club, Max Payne, and Smuggler's Run in which I enjoyed playing them.

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#3 SilverSignal
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Yeah GTA3 certainly made them a household name. The only game of theirs I played before that was GTA2. Max Payne came out the same year but I remember playing that a while after GTA3. I'll never forget seeing GTA3 in action for the first time at a friends house and being gob smacked. :)
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Yeah GTA3 certainly made them a household name. The only game of theirs I played before that was GTA2. Max Payne came out the same year but I remember playing that a while after GTA3. I'll never forget seeing GTA3 in action for the first time at a friends house and being gob smacked. :)SilverSignal

yeah, i remember seeing it at an internet/gaming cafe ... I couldn't believe what i was seeing, brilliant feeling

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#5 LazyMushroom
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Companies / developers don't start off being successful. Companies take time to gain reputation and success, it doesn't happen overnight. It doesn't matter if Rockstar weren't successful before GTA 3, it's the present that matters and at the moment they are one of the best developers out there.

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#6 killzonexbox
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In the 1990 they develop a game call Lemmings

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#7 jsh020
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well they were succesful in making good games, i highly suggest people that enjoyu old school agmes pick up the first 2 gta games and mabey that one that was in between 1 and 2, i remmeber it being english but dont rememebr the name

they were very funney and arcade like, plausyou had to juggle aroundmob respect, sort of like mercs but with mobsters

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#8 broken_bass_bin
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See, there was this game called 'Lemmings'...

Before GTA 3, they were called DMA Design

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#9 UpInFlames
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Rockstar was founded only three years prior to the release of Grand Theft Auto III, so naturally Rockstar's rise is inherently intertwined with the success of Grand Theft Auto III (even though GTA 2 was a successful release as well, just not nearly as big as its sequel). However, it was only after Vice City that Rockstar began to establish the identity it nurtures today - they dropped all third-party publishing and focused on internal development of mostly mature-themed games. L.A. Noire is actually the first Rockstar-published game since 2002 that wasn't developed by a Rockstar studio - although Rockstar was significantly involved in L.A. Noire's development.

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#10 Shut-Your-Face
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Companies / developers don't start off being successful. Companies take time to gain reputation and success, it doesn't happen overnight. It doesn't matter if Rockstar weren't successful before GTA 3, it's the present that matters and at the moment they are one of the best developers out there.

LazyMushroom
Well, obviously. But as others have already pointed out, they weren't new when GTA3 was released.
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#11 dakan45
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actually? gta3 did what sandbox games are nowdays. before that they made terrible overhead 2d games. Lemmings was pretty meh.
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actually? gta3 did what sandbox games are nowdays. before that they made terrible overhead 2d games. Lemmings was pretty meh.dakan45
Hey I loved GTA1 and 2....
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Companies / developers don't start off being successful. Companies take time to gain reputation and success, it doesn't happen overnight. It doesn't matter if Rockstar weren't successful before GTA 3, it's the present that matters and at the moment they are one of the best developers out there.

LazyMushroom

This.












.... is so damn stupid.

wow we know they are one of the best developers but he asked a specific question if they were good before gta3. how about we never mention or ask questions about anything thats ever happened in the past, seeing as it doesnt matter. n all

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#14 killzonexbox
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See, there was this game called 'Lemmings'...

Before GTA 3, they were called DMA Design

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dma design office tour rare

dma party 1993

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#15 worlock77
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Some folks seem to be confusing Rockstar Games with Rockstar North. Rockstar Games was only founded a couple of years before the release of 'GTA3'. Rockstar North was once known as DMA Designs (and founded in 1988), before being purchased by Rockstar Games in 2001.

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#16 SilverSignal
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]actually? gta3 did what sandbox games are nowdays. before that they made terrible overhead 2d games. Lemmings was pretty meh.

GTA2 was and stil is a fun game to play. Of course todays gamers won't bother with it as it doesn't have cutting edge graphics but for those of us who actually played it when it came out it's great. Lemmings was fun and quite original too.
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[QUOTE="SilverSignal"][QUOTE="dakan45"]actually? gta3 did what sandbox games are nowdays. before that they made terrible overhead 2d games. Lemmings was pretty meh.

GTA2 was and stil is a fun game to play. Of course todays gamers won't bother with it as it doesn't have cutting edge graphics but for those of us who actually played it when it came out it's great. Lemmings was fun and quite original too.

Honestly it was terrible back then. There were 3d games with big enviroments, so a bigger one in 2d with one hit kill and terrible dricing mechanics was pretty bad. Gta 3 was the one that revolutionize the franchise.
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Not always. They made a few mishaps, games like Earthworm Jim 3D and two Austin Powers games, if I remember correctly, those three being not that great.

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Classic DMA game below,Ah memories!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzmEJWjcwms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yCmJXEsgFo

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#20 Mau-Justice
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They weren't even called Rockstar back then. They were DMA Designs, just some programmers working for Take 2. That answers your question right there.
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#21 SilverSignal
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="SilverSignal"][QUOTE="dakan45"]actually? gta3 did what sandbox games are nowdays. before that they made terrible overhead 2d games. Lemmings was pretty meh.

GTA2 was and stil is a fun game to play. Of course todays gamers won't bother with it as it doesn't have cutting edge graphics but for those of us who actually played it when it came out it's great. Lemmings was fun and quite original too.

Honestly it was terrible back then. There were 3d games with big enviroments, so a bigger one in 2d with one hit kill and terrible dricing mechanics was pretty bad. Gta 3 was the one that revolutionize the franchise.

That's your opinion. GTA2 was and still is a fun game to play.
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[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]They weren't even called Rockstar back then. They were DMA Designs, just some programmers working for Take 2. That answers your question right there.

Hey, you have a FAMAS in your sig. Anyway, after seeing all of this I'm getting a little confused, but it's starting to add up. DMA Designs made GTA, then after or before the sequel, they became Rockstar North, then Rockstar Games bought them out. Do I have it right?
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[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]They weren't even called Rockstar back then. They were DMA Designs, just some programmers working for Take 2. That answers your question right there.ImBananas
Hey, you have a FAMAS in your sig. Anyway, after seeing all of this I'm getting a little confused, but it's starting to add up. DMA Designs made GTA, then after or before the sequel, they became Rockstar North, then Rockstar Games bought them out. Do I have it right?

This is how it went down.

DMA Design was founded in 1988. They made a lot of Amiga and PC games most notably Lemmings. They were noticed by Sam and Dan Houser (who then worked for BMG) when they pitched a game called Race 'n Chase. The Housers were impressed with the game and signed it immediately - and renamed it Grand Theft Auto. The Housers moved from London to New York and founded Rockstar Games in 1998 (under Take-Two). Take-Two purchased DMA Design in 1999. It was renamed Rockstar North in 2002.

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#24 ImBananas
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[QUOTE="ImBananas"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]They weren't even called Rockstar back then. They were DMA Designs, just some programmers working for Take 2. That answers your question right there.UpInFlames

Hey, you have a FAMAS in your sig. Anyway, after seeing all of this I'm getting a little confused, but it's starting to add up. DMA Designs made GTA, then after or before the sequel, they became Rockstar North, then Rockstar Games bought them out. Do I have it right?

This is how it went down.

DMA Design was founded in 1988. They made a lot of Amiga and PC games most notably Lemmings. They were noticed by Sam and Dan Houser (who then worked for BMG) when they pitched a game called Race 'n Chase. The Housers were impressed with the game and signed it immediately - and renamed it Grand Theft Auto. The Housers moved from London to New York and founded Rockstar Games in 1998 (under Take-Two). Take-Two purchased DMA Design in 1999. It was renamed Rockstar North in 2002.

Oh, that clears it all up, from now on I will refer to GTA as Race 'n Chase xP
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I was a big fan of the GTA games before GTA 3, though the 3D GTA games have earned the series more popularity I kind of wish for a return to the more arcade style of gameplay that isn't restricted to the DS and PSP, not saying the whole series needs a redirection, but it would be nice to have a return to the old-school GTA gameplay for just one game, maybe make it a XBL/PSN game.