Watch Dogs 30 fps?

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#1 RimacBugatti
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Wow that's horrible for next gen! For them not to be able to achieve 60 fps consistent is quit sad. It's not like we are trying to achieve PC performance which averages 90-120 fps. My expectations are atleast half of what the average PC can produce. As it stands I feel like I may have wasted $400 on my PS4 preorder. I really hope that they manage to get some games running at 60 fps. So far 30 fps is all I'm hearing. Well I guess that means that Xbox One is going to struggle to get 30 fps? I would have rather paid 600$ for a PS4 with a better GPU.
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#2 MonsieurX
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Buying consoles,expecting performance. You're doing it wrong
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#3 SoNin360
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Sheesh, it's not that big of a deal. It's hardly a next-gen title anyway. Even so, 30FPS shouldn't bother most console gamers.
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#4 RimacBugatti
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Yeah I guess my expectations of performance are unrealistic. Atleast the visuals and map size are improved for next gen.
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Wow that's horrible for next gen! For them not to be able to achieve 60 fps consistent is quit sad. It's not like we are trying to achieve PC performance which averages 90-120 fps. My expectations are atleast half of what the average PC can produce. As it stands I feel like I may have wasted $400 on my PS4 preorder. I really hope that they manage to get some games running at 60 fps. So far 30 fps is all I'm hearing. Well I guess that means that Xbox One is going to struggle to get 30 fps? I would have rather paid 600$ for a PS4 with a better GPU. RimacBugatti

Forza 5 on the Xbox One will run at 60 fps. That has been confirmed. 

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#6 Areez
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Wow that's horrible for next gen! For them not to be able to achieve 60 fps consistent is quit sad. It's not like we are trying to achieve PC performance which averages 90-120 fps. My expectations are atleast half of what the average PC can produce. As it stands I feel like I may have wasted $400 on my PS4 preorder. I really hope that they manage to get some games running at 60 fps. So far 30 fps is all I'm hearing. Well I guess that means that Xbox One is going to struggle to get 30 fps? I would have rather paid 600$ for a PS4 with a better GPU. RimacBugatti

Oh and by the way...60fps in full 1080p will not mean much unless you have an HDTV with a high refresh rate. The type of refresh rate found on more higher end TV's.

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Yeah and I'm using a monitor and I'm not sure what the refresh rate is plus it's probably only a 60hz anyways so yeah I probably wouldn't benefit anyways.
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#8 hrt_rulz01
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I'd prefer 1080p @ 30fps over 720p @ 60fps... as long as the graphical detail is cranked up. However I think we'll see more and more 1080p/60fps games as the gen goes on.
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#9 lostfan132
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FPS only matters when you're playing multiplayer or a game that requires quick contextual imputs like NBA 2k games or Fifa series or platformers like Mario Galaxy. In a single player open world game 30 fps is more than fine and lets developers spruce up the graphics more.

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#10 RimacBugatti
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Yeah I hope performance enhances as gen progresses. As far as framerates your right FPS's and sports games for sure for me I can also tell the difference in driving games and I'm looking forward to Driveclub so I'm a little disappointed. Of course I may end up just buying an Xbox One to play Forza 5 at 1080p 60 fps.
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#11 wizdom
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I am not the worried mainly because it's a first generation game for the PS4 and it also is coming out to current generation systems. They probably didn't have the time to make it sixty frames per second which is understandable. I think Killzone SF and Forza 5 are running at sixty frames per second and it does not shock since both games are exclusives. It really all boils down to time. I think over time we will see more games running at sixty frames per second, but for right not we will have to deal with it.
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#12 RimacBugatti
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Yeah and hopefully by this time next year we will see a vast improvement in performance. But atleast we have a couple games running at 60 fps.
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#13 sukraj
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I'm sure that we will see 60fps sooner rather than later.

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I know how you feel I'd rather make a bowl of noodels than play 30FPS.

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#15 sukraj
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I know how you feel I'd rather make a bowl of noodels than play 30FPS.

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c'mon its not all bad innit.

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So that means current-gen versions should run at about 15 FPS.

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#17 RimacBugatti
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From what I can see in the videos I can tell Driveclub is running at 30 fps. Unless it was youtube that was running at 30 fps.
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#18 shellcase86
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Not too concerned, myself.

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#19 aronaouran
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regardless, the game still looks nice.
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Wow that's horrible for next gen! For them not to be able to achieve 60 fps consistent is quit sad. It's not like we are trying to achieve PC performance which averages 90-120 fps. My expectations are atleast half of what the average PC can produce. As it stands I feel like I may have wasted $400 on my PS4 preorder. I really hope that they manage to get some games running at 60 fps. So far 30 fps is all I'm hearing. Well I guess that means that Xbox One is going to struggle to get 30 fps? I would have rather paid 600$ for a PS4 with a better GPU. RimacBugatti

achieving 60fps at 1080p in one game and 60fps at 1080p in another isn't the same task. And 60fps at 1080p in and of itself tells you comparatively little about system performance.

A game like Forza with its racetrack and cars will stress a gpu less than a game like Watch Dogs which has cars and streets but also tons of people walking around. Secondly, there is the issue of more complex effects and higher detailed textures, which will do far more to make a game pretty than the 30fps Watch Dogs might be "missing."

Just as a modern example, consider vanilla Skyrim. You can run that at 1080p, 60fps with even a moderate gaming rig - but it still looks like crap because the textures are garbage, the meshes are blocky and the lighting sucks. Now mod your skyrim - start with an ENB for more complex effects (SSAO, bloom, DOF, etc). Then reskin the entire game with higher rez textures (not that crappy official texture pack - get some from the mod community). Then get yourself a lighting overhaul mod to fix bethesda's shoddy work. Grab yourself a skin texture like Zonzai's Real Skin that's modeled from the skin of real people, with its pores and skin dimples - incredible detail. Now spruce up the landscape with a flora overhaul that takes the flat ground textures and covers them with waving foliage of various types (and this is gonna tax your gpu like crazy, all those plants and grasses blowing in the wind casting shadows). Good luck running the game at 1080p and 60fps now, but I guarantee you've just taken the very same game and made it look next gen by sacrificing frame rate. A lot of people willing to take that hit because losing 15-30fps down to 30fps or so is just worth it for these changes.

Also, and maybe more importantly, if you're looking for cutting edge graphics and buying consoles, you're doing it wrong.

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#21 YearoftheSnake5
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30fps is fine if it's constant and without screen tearing. This should be expected for consoles, especially for launch games.

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#22 RimacBugatti
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Yeah #60 had a lot of screen tearing and that's kind of annoying so if we can atleast avoid that then that's fine.