Were you disappointed by Reach?

For Bungie's last send-off to the series, I can't help, but to be disappointed by it. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad game, but it ain't great either. I enjoyed every Halo game, even ODST, despite it being an overpriced expansion pack. However, I haven't enjoyed Reach much, because it f***ed around with the Halo formula too much and 75% of the promises made in the vidocs were didn't make the final cut or were handled poorly.

Here's a list of reasons why I think Reach had the worst multi-player out of the series:

• Inconsistent Weapon Balance
• Atrocious Maps
• Bloom randomize shots
• Armor Abilities don't provide tactical considerations to the combat, but provide cheap tricks to the player. Armor Lock anyone?
• Broken Rank System
• Unbalance vehicless (Warthog is not only underpowered, but light as all Hell.)
• Double meleeing makes the melee system cheap
• Grenades are mini-nukes
• The spawn-system is broken
• The beta was considerably better than the final game

Here's a list of reasons why I think Reach had the worst campaign of the franchise:

• Lack of any real intense or memorable set-pieces
• Enemy A.I. isn't smarter than prior Halo games, they're just cheaper.
• Friendly A.I. is worse than Halo 2 & 3
• The game lacks atmosphere
• Where are those 20 to 40 A.I. battles Bungie promised?
• The characters are bland and undeveloped (except for Jorge) for a character driven story
• Mission design is poor and mission objectives repeat themselves
• No scarab battles
• New gameplay elements to the series, such as; jetpack platforming, space combat, and on-rails shooting segments are undeveloped and very brief

Were you disappointed by Halo: Reach? Unless were you a Halo hater...

no i though it was great

Not at all. Very good singleplayer and multiplayer.

I wasn't thrilled with the campaign. There were a lot of steps they could have taken to make the whole story more meaningful, but it just fell flat. I bought the game on release and wasn't too happy with the multiplayer so I quit until a few weeks ago, but I have to say, it kind of grows on you. All in all, I'd say the campaign is the worst of any Halo game I've played (not including ODST), but the multiplayer isn't bad, it's just really different.

No game in the halo series has been as good as Halo CE don't get me wrong I love the halo series its just that neither halo 2 or 3( that includes reach and ODST ) ever got me as excited or into it as the first one did they were all missing something that the first had that I can't put my finger on.

I think if this was any other game it would be adverage at best and perhaps not sell, however you slap that Halo badge on it and it sells a **** load.

I played Halo Reach's campaign and I was just disappointed by it. Typical Halo with a very disappointing ending, even if you knew what was going to happen. it was just unmemorable. Multiplayer does have its moments, but it's just...Halo. More of the same and I also feel that Halo Reach is nothing more but a game that was made as a cash-cow and that alone succeeded.

The storyline and characters in Reach were stupid to the max. As if Halo wasn't already full of stereotypes and stolen plots, Reach just took it to the next level. Your squad was the typical "culturally diverse" group. I almost expected to see some guy in a wheelchair acting as the squad's geeky tech supporter.Next, we have this ultimate quest to save Reach and it was SO dramatic! Yeah, not really. The ending was also a dud, definitely the kind of popcorn "drama" that would appeal to the 14-year-old boys who play this game. It was just milking an already milked-out franchise. I was willing to give Halo a chance after Halo 3 (which was a decline in the series, IMO) but Reach was the new low.Mrmccormo

Suffice to say, the series declined when Halo: Wars came out. Ironically, Halo Wars had a better story than Halo: Reach.... That's just sad. But you're spot on about Reach's storyline. It was terrible, even worse than Halo 2's.

As the only Halo campaign I've ever played through, I found it quite disappointing. For a series that gets so much hype and praise, I was expecting strong set-pieces and a rousing, intense campaign...and it just never got there. The story and level design were uninspired, the missions weren't particularly memorable, the cutscenes...eh, everything just seemed run-of-the-mill (but with good production values). I suppose that I enjoyed it, and the multiplayer is pretty fun (even if Halo 3 seemed to have better maps), but I don't think I'd ever want to make it more than a rental. I seriously hope that that isn't the best game the Halo franchise has to offer.Planeforger

I wasn't thrilled with the campaign. There were a lot of steps they could have taken to make the whole story more meaningful, but it just fell flat. I bought the game on release and wasn't too happy with the multiplayer so I quit until a few weeks ago, but I have to say, it kind of grows on you. All in all, I'd say the campaign is the worst of any Halo game I've played (not including ODST), but the multiplayer isn't bad, it's just really different.

Enid_Green

I've enjoyed what I've played of it so far. Definitely seems better than Halo 2 and Halo 3, to me.AndromedasWake

firefight mode was the only think i liked about reach

There's nothing like a "do you like halo?" thread to bring out all the haters of the series. Most of what I've read in this thread is how much people hate the series as a whole, not just what they think ofReach.

I thought Reach was brillant. I havent been this emotionally involved with the characters since Halo 3 (I actually played ODST and Halo Wars).Reach's MP is leaps and bounds better than Halo 3. Although it's hard to improve on something that was already great to begin with.

I thought the campaign was the tightest, and most well-designed out of all of the games. I really enjoyed it on both playthroughs. The elites are very challenging, and always manage to shift the dynamic of a battle.

I loved it myself. Found the campaign very exciting and the multiplayer modes are terrific fun. Then there's the other extras like Forge and Theater. It was my overall GotY.Archangel3371

With all this negativity you wouldn't think that Reach was one of the most critically praised, commercially successful or highest profile online games of 2010!! :roll:

If you haters can't handle it, I suggest you go play Streetfighter.

PS: I think that Reach is the best in the series overall.

At heart I'm a huge Halo fan, and I thought Halo 3 was kind of lacking. That being said, I played about three missions on legendary, four player system link co-op, and those three missions were some of the most intense experiences I've had playing Halo. Not even kidding. After killing just elite, people would cheer because it almost takes teamwork to down one without taking casualities. I never played Halo tactically (solo legendary was always a pain) but this time around, we were flanking, distracting jackals to open them up to our friends on the other side of the map, fighting for high ground to snipe from while some of us took vehicles in to go up close and personal. THAT is the quintessential Halo experience I've been looking for since I've played the first Halo.

I can't wait to buy a new 360 and pick up Reach for myself, though.

At heart I'm a huge Halo fan, and I thought Halo 3 was kind of lacking. That being said, I played about three missions on legendary, four player system link co-op, and those three missions were some of the most intense experiences I've had playing Halo. Not even kidding. After killing just elite, people would cheer because it almost takes teamwork to down one without taking casualities. I never played Halo tactically (solo legendary was always a pain) but this time around, we were flanking, distracting jackals to open them up to our friends on the other side of the map, fighting for high ground to snipe from while some of us took vehicles in to go up close and personal. THAT is the quintessential Halo experience I've been looking for since I've played the first Halo.

I can't wait to buy a new 360 and pick up Reach for myself, though.

Sharpie125

I never had any of these problems in prior Halo games, and trust me, I recently played them on Legendary to know. Halo: Reach is to me, the easiest Halo game. I practically breeze through it on both solo and four player co-op, just by using the overpowered DMR. I'm surprised Bungie created a rifle more godlike than the Battle Rifle. Thanks a lot Sage Merril!

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]I loved it myself. Found the campaign very exciting and the multiplayer modes are terrific fun. Then there's the other extras like Forge and Theater. It was my overall GotY.Krystyan68

With all this negativity you wouldn't think that Reach was one of the most critically praised, commercially successful or highest profile online games of 2010!! :roll:

If you haters can't handle it, I suggest you go play Streetfighter.

PS: I think that Reach is the best in the series overall.

PS: I firmly believe Reach is the weakest Bungie Halo game. It's good, but not great. Halo: CE had a better campaign (Despite it's repetitive interior level design), Halo 2 had MUCH better maps, Halo 3 had better balance, and Halo 3: ODST was more atmospheric than Reach. Hell, I can't believe I liked ODST's campaign more than Reach.

This "haters gonna hate" crap is basically an excuse to shut-down criticism. "Professional" critics are often blinded by hype, often dismissing or ignoring flaws that blatantly stick out. This is no more noticable for games like GTAIV, MGS4, and Modern Warfare 2. I gave up on them after 2007.TheEngima683

Or they just, you know, have a different opinion on those games than you do. You claim to dislike "haters gonna hate" because it's a supposed attempt to shut down criticism, to silence opposing views. Then you turn around and also attempt to silence opposing views by discrediting them as "blinded by hype". Sweeping accusations with no substance such as that in response to their reviews are the rough equivalent of "haters gonna hate", and it serves the same purpose. In short, either keep your cake or eat it, you can't do both. If you're going to demand others not dismiss your view and take it seriously, then you are required to give that same respect in return.

I was not disappointed in the slightest. Although I was hoping for marine allies who could legitimately help you fight for the last game in the series, and wished they kept the SMG.

[QUOTE="Sharpie125"]

At heart I'm a huge Halo fan, and I thought Halo 3 was kind of lacking. That being said, I played about three missions on legendary, four player system link co-op, and those three missions were some of the most intense experiences I've had playing Halo. Not even kidding. After killing just elite, people would cheer because it almost takes teamwork to down one without taking casualities. I never played Halo tactically (solo legendary was always a pain) but this time around, we were flanking, distracting jackals to open them up to our friends on the other side of the map, fighting for high ground to snipe from while some of us took vehicles in to go up close and personal. THAT is the quintessential Halo experience I've been looking for since I've played the first Halo.

I can't wait to buy a new 360 and pick up Reach for myself, though.

TheEngima683

We don't *resort* to tactics. That's the way we play games. Yeah we could have rushed through the levels using only one weapon, then dismissed it as a cake walk :roll: But as friends who play paintball together from time to time, doesn't hurt to employ some form of tactical play. I used to do the ol' CE LANs with those guys and our little "squad" rocked the hell out of Blood Gulch. And for me, difficulty doesn't so much equal intensity. Just engaging in large firefights across a fairly large (compared to COD) environments is thrilling in itself.

That being said, I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the game as much as I did.