What do you think about the new Tomb Raider?

I recently saw an advertisement for this game and I was very impressed. This game kind of reminds me of Uncharted which is a good thing, also a bit ironic because Uncharted kind of copied Tomb Raider :P

I used to hate the Tomb Raider games, but this one is a whole new direction for the series. I also like the look of Laura more, she is more realistic.

I used to love the Tomb Raider games. In fact I do still love the first five and bought them from GOG.com just recently. I hate how this new one looks. I think it's a perfect example of just what's wrong with the videogame industry these days. MonoSilver

How so? I think it looks amazing.

I used to love the Tomb Raider games. In fact I do still love the first five and bought them from GOG.com just recently. I hate how this new one looks. I think it's a perfect example of just what's wrong with the videogame industry these days. MonoSilver

I'm interested in seeing how they weave together Lara's origin story with the gameplay. They've really been hyping up the story but I hope the gameplay is just as strong. Can't wait.

i'm pretty excited over it. it looks beautiful and it looks like it plays well.

I like that this isn't the stereotypical female bad @ss, While i really don't mind sexualized leads in my entertainment (games, movies, shows, etc), I don't want/need it all the time.

Also like the fact that it seems very dirty and gritty. I still remember actually saying "oh damn!" in pain, seeing Lara fall and get impaled by a pike through her side. Now it's obvious to me at least the game isn't just a sado-masochist game of lets beat up on the woman. Seems more like she's getting really hurt in the beginning as she's trying to survive, then by the end of the game becomes the Tomb Raider as we all expect her to.

In a similar way like Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins, or Dark Knight Rises.

But i will say though i am bracing myself for more controversy with this game. I'm just waiting, i expect someone somewhere is gonna cry foul and get butt hurt over it - no matter what they do.

As for it's multiplayer i do not care about. I mean cool whatever modes, but i'm not really gonna bite into it.

Don't know, I'll have to play it first. I've come to never trust trailers or impressions as I've been too disappointed too many times. The trailers look great but any game can be made to look incredible with them. From what I've seen it looks promising. On the other hand, I keep hearing it's a huge action shoot-a-thon from those who've seen it.

I'm guessing it will get in the 8 range here.

Its trying to be the female Rambo, I was on Xbox live, and it shows here sticking a needle in here arm to patch, JUST like Rambo... I personally dont find female badasses to be believable, everyone knows that in real life they would freak out as soon as they see a spider. Women dont do that for the sake of being annoying. I mean I open a door before a woman sees me and her first reaction is to run away or yell and get scared, XD!

Horny man's Uncharted.

I like what i've seen so far and i'm going to purchase the game.

[QUOTE="MonoSilver"]I used to love the Tomb Raider games. In fact I do still love the first five and bought them from GOG.com just recently. I hate how this new one looks. I think it's a perfect example of just what's wrong with the videogame industry these days. BossPerson

[QUOTE="MonoSilver"]I used to love the Tomb Raider games. In fact I do still love the first five and bought them from GOG.com just recently. I hate how this new one looks. I think it's a perfect example of just what's wrong with the videogame industry these days. BossPerson

Looks kind of interesting - I might pick it up when it hits the bargain bin. I was disappointed when I heard they were adding multiplayer, it just tells me that not only will time and effort be taken away from the development of the single-player portion of the game, but the whole thing's probably designed by the marketing department as they look at sales analysis charts etc. and will be therefore be fairly generic and unremarkable. But I hope I'm wrong.

Looks kind of interesting - I might pick it up when it hits the bargain bin. I was disappointed when I heard they were adding multiplayer, it just tells me that not only will time and effort be taken away from the development of the single-player portion of the game, but the whole thing's probably designed by the marketing department as they look at sales analysis charts etc. and will be therefore be fairly generic and unremarkable. But I hope I'm wrong.

Jackc8

Tomb Raider would be the 2nd 2013 game I buy after Crysis 3 and before Bioshock: Infinite.

Normally I wouldn't even look at a Tomb Raider game but this one has definitelystood out. It was a good idea going with an origins story. I think I'll give it a go.

I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

Shame-usBlackley

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I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

Lulekani

Looks nothing like Tomb Raider. It's way different than what Lara Croft really is.

DMC is also different but at least it sticks to it's origins, I mean the gameplay is close to what it was on the previous DMC games.

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

Lulekani

Adding the same bullet point that every other game does is not always quantified as adding replay value, pork chop.

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

MonoSilver

Precisely.

I have, literally, fifty games on my shelf that have multiplayer communities that are far more robust and well-supported than this game's will ever be. I don't, however, have many new Tomb Raider games. Added value my ass. Give me a long campaign that modernizes and evokes everything I liked about the series to begin with. That would be added value -- not playing hide and seek with a bunch of 14 year olds that will have forgotten the game after a month.

I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

Shame-usBlackley

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I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

N3MO

Fine, but that ignores simple economics. The money is all finite and comes from the same pool. Resources spent on multiplayer could have been spent making the single-player longer and better. There's just no way around that.

And whether they farmed it out or not doesn't matter to me, really -- multiplayer gaming is a toilet. It's the same five or six modes we've been playing for nearly fifteen years. I'd wager a lung that this is no different. They're just trying to pander to the COD mouth breathers who won't buy a game without multiplayer. Which is fine -- that group is powerful and influential because it buys LOTS of copies of games. But I have to speak with my wallet as well, which is why I will rent it instead.

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I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

N3MO

I remember people were all bemoaning the fact that Mass Effect 3 was getting an online mp mode and it turned out to be a great addition that recieved plenty of free content and is still heavily played. Regardless though I don't have to have every game with an mp mode last years online because unless I severely cut down on the games that I purchase then I simply don't have the time to always play them. If I can get a solid game with an enjoyable campaign and a few dozen hours of online play then I consider that to be perfect.Archangel3371

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]I remember people were all bemoaning the fact that Mass Effect 3 was getting an online mp mode and it turned out to be a great addition that recieved plenty of free content and is still heavily played. Regardless though I don't have to have every game with an mp mode last years online because unless I severely cut down on the games that I purchase then I simply don't have the time to always play them. If I can get a solid game with an enjoyable campaign and a few dozen hours of online play then I consider that to be perfect.MonoSilver

People still play Tomb Raider?

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

MonoSilver

[QUOTE="MonoSilver"][QUOTE="Lulekani"] So increasing the game's replay value lowers your desire to own it. Way to stick it to the man, Big Guy.Lulekani

Come again? I'm not a Tomb Raider fan because I want the game to stay single player? Like it's always been?

I remember playing the first one on PS1 on a 14" TV when I was younger. I'd imagine the majority of people playing the new on online weren't even born when the first game was out. The series also doesn't need role-playing elements, but hey lets just stick that in too, seeing as games aren't medicine...

That development muscle could have gone into any number of things that fans of the series would appreciate more. The multi-player of this game (unless something miraculous happens) will be dead within a few weeks. Having the developers create some challenge rooms or something would have added more value. The multi-player may not have come at the cost of single-player content, but as has been pointed out, its still resources poured into the game that could have gone somewhere where it would have been appreciated. Now if the multi-player was some form of co-op with special puzzles or something that it would be different, but this looks like standard deathmatch fare.Articuno76

The main game already has something along the lines of Challenge Rooms hidden throughout the island. And the resources used on multiplayer were only gained because CD pitched the idea for it late in development. Otherwise we would have gotten the same single player game we are already getting, just no multiplayer mode. Multiplayer was CD's idea from the begining, but they didn't want to add it if it would have any effect on the creation of the core game. Something they have made very clear since they revealed multiplayer.

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]Lulekani

You really need to learn a thing or two about manners. Attacking other users needlessly isn't tolerated around here. I suggest you change your behavior.

The main game already has something along the lines of Challenge Rooms hidden throughout the island. And the resources used on multiplayer were only gained because CD pitched the idea for it late in development. Otherwise we would have gotten the same single player game we are already getting, just no multiplayer mode. Multiplayer was CD's idea from the begining, but they didn't want to add it if it would have any effect on the creation of the core game. Something they have made very clear since they revealed multiplayer.N3MO

Indeed, but it's hard to change perception. There's always the possibility that multiplayer takes away resources from the core game, regardless of whether that's actually happening or not. So of course everyone continues to cling to the idea that it always does. Hard not to when most multiplayer modes follow the same damn gameplay modes and variants. Easier to accept it when there's obvious work put into it to ensure it plays to the game's strengths.

[QUOTE="Articuno76"]That development muscle could have gone into any number of things that fans of the series would appreciate more. The multi-player of this game (unless something miraculous happens) will be dead within a few weeks. Having the developers create some challenge rooms or something would have added more value. The multi-player may not have come at the cost of single-player content, but as has been pointed out, its still resources poured into the game that could have gone somewhere where it would have been appreciated. Now if the multi-player was some form of co-op with special puzzles or something that it would be different, but this looks like standard deathmatch fare.N3MO

The main game already has something along the lines of Challenge Rooms hidden throughout the island.

A multi-player that will in all likelihood be empty in a few weeks (and one that is competing with other strong multiplayer offerings) isn't value for a majority of people buying the game; it's a bullet-point on the back of the box.

I can understand that this didn't affect the core game...what I cannot accept is that this use of development resources has added any value to the package. How about some compelling content instead? Maybe some good DLC down the road? Or if you are going to do a multiplayer have it work with what people like about the franchise (look at Guardian of Light for instance) rather than deathmatch modes.

A multi-player that will in all likelihood be empty in a few weeks (and one that is competing with other strong multiplayer offerings) isn't value for a majority of people buying the game; it's a bullet-point on the back of the box.

Articuno76

I'll make a bet right now with any takers that Tomb Raider's online mode is a ghost town after 90 days. Assuming I'm right, let me just ask this:

Is wasting all those resources and time on a mode that will be forgotten after 90 days really worth it? Or could they have just made more content for the campaign -- content which, let's face it, is already done and waiting to be announced as DLC most likely? That's the real pisser. I can almost guarantee that the game ships with this cardboard cutout online mode and DLC is announced for the game within weeks of it being shipped. You're going to get some POS online mode that apes the last twenty-five games that aped the hundred before that, and content from the campaign will be held hostage for more money.

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A multi-player that will in all likelihood be empty in a few weeks (and one that is competing with other strong multiplayer offerings) isn't value for a majority of people buying the game; it's a bullet-point on the back of the box.

Shame-usBlackley

I'll make a bet right now with any takers that Tomb Raider's online mode is a ghost town after 90 days. Assuming I'm right, let me just ask this:

Is wasting all those resources and time on a mode that will be forgotten after 90 days really worth it? Or could they have just made more content for the campaign -- content which, let's face it, is already done and waiting to be announced as DLC most likely? That's the real pisser. I can almost guarantee that the game ships with this cardboard cutout online mode and DLC is announced for the game within weeks of it being shipped.

[QUOTE="N3MO"][QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

I think it looks outstanding. Would've been a defiite purchase before they shoehorned multiplayer into it. Now it's the best rental I'll make this year.

Shame-usBlackley

Fine, but that ignores simple economics. The money is all finite and comes from the same pool. Resources spent on multiplayer could have been spent making the single-player longer and better. There's just no way around that.

And whether they farmed it out or not doesn't matter to me, really -- multiplayer gaming is a toilet. It's the same five or six modes we've been playing for nearly fifteen years. I'd wager a lung that this is no different. They're just trying to pander to the COD mouth breathers who won't buy a game without multiplayer. Which is fine -- that group is powerful and influential because it buys LOTS of copies of games. But I have to speak with my wallet as well, which is why I will rent it instead.

i think it looks good. interested in where this series goes. and a definate improvement over underworld. i have my CE preorder in, so day 1 for me.

One I'm not into those type of "movie adventure" games.

Two I don't enjoy playing as a woman.

So zero hype personally, I don't even play Uncharted, just doesn't do anything for me.

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[QUOTE="N3MO"] I would normally groan at tacked on multuplayer. But CD isn't shoehorning it in. They gave it to an entirely different development team to create while they focused on the core of the game. So nothing is lost or effected by the inclusion of it. Just an extra feature on the disc you can completely ignore if one so desires.JustPlainLucas

Fine, but that ignores simple economics. The money is all finite and comes from the same pool. Resources spent on multiplayer could have been spent making the single-player longer and better. There's just no way around that.

And whether they farmed it out or not doesn't matter to me, really -- multiplayer gaming is a toilet. It's the same five or six modes we've been playing for nearly fifteen years. I'd wager a lung that this is no different. They're just trying to pander to the COD mouth breathers who won't buy a game without multiplayer. Which is fine -- that group is powerful and influential because it buys LOTS of copies of games. But I have to speak with my wallet as well, which is why I will rent it instead.

Voting with your wallet works.

So many game devs and publishers have gone out of business, because they thought they knew better than the gamers what gamers want.

If you don't listen to your customers, you are just cutting your own throat.

MP belongs in games built around MP.

Nobody buys uncharted to play MP, for MP they get BF3, CoD, Halo, etc. They play UC for the single-player campaign.

Look what happened with ME3, a poor understanding of their own IP, poor understanding of gamer culture, refusal to listen to fans, if they had just pulled in 5 random kids off the street to play the beta, they would have TOLD you it sucks, they would have TOLD you 5 minute cutscene to play 2 minutes is boring and annoying, they would TOLD you that MP does not belong in a game like this.

But no, "we know best" and so they lose money on the project or at best they break even, and end up ruining the whole IP. Asshats.