What games has the best Ai?

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#1  Edited By ojmstr
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Im curious to know what games you consider to have the best Ai? And also what your general thoughts are for Ai on the current generations of consoles and pc's and also when and on which games did we notice that Ai really made a difference in the past? Have we seen any progression at all in the last decade of gaming or has it been stagnated through last couple of generations? And last, will we see a breakthrough when it comes to Ai on current gen because of the technology we now are in the possession of or is it just a progression that will evolve over time as developers slowly but certaint learn more about Artificial intelligence?

Please share your thoughts

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#2 RichieTickles
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The quality of AI depends heavily on which type of game you play and on what difficulty. A RTS game will have great AI because that's a damn necessity to a RTS game while a sports game will generally have sucky AI.

Has there been progression in the last 10 years in AI? Yeah, there has. There's been improvement in all aspects of a game's quality since the mid 2000's, the only thing that really holds AI back is devs creativity and that will always be what drags AI from becoming the intelligence in games it could be.

Anyway, best AI in games I've ever played were:

XCOM

The Last of Us

that's about all I can think of atm

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#3  Edited By Conviic
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I didn't played the sequels, but the games i have played my entire life i would say F.E.A.R 1 has the most impressive AI. Although i haven't played the rest of the franchise to see if they improved even more.

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#4 mastermetal777
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The Last of Us has some pretty impressive AI in the human adversaries. Any (good) RTS will generally have great and intelligent AI. Killzone 2 and 3 had some pretty strong enemy AI as well. For other examples though, look up the Tvtropes page called Artificial Brilliance.

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#5 Archangel3371
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I found the F.E.A.R. and Halo games to have really good AI.

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#6 Cloud_imperium
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F.E.A.R

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#7 ChiefFreeman
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The first Crysis. Those North Korean soldiers were smart. They would pursue you all across the map.

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#8 SoNin360
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I like seeing The Last of Us mentioned because its AI seemed to be one of the very few things that was nitpicked at. However, I agree that its AI was pretty damn good compared to most games I've played. Any time I see it being bashed I think, "If this game's AI isn't considered good, then what the hell game has AI that is considered good?"

But honestly, I think there will always be quirks in AI when it comes to games. There's always going to be something that doesn't make other characters feel very "human" or some sort of snag in the programming that causes the AI to goof. It's definitely improved over the years, though there's plenty of room for it to improve even more during this generation.

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#9 mastermetal777
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@SoNin360: exactly. There will never be "perfect" AI in video games, either due to programming oversight or design discrepancies that hinder any intelligent planning the AI might have. As such, many games feature close to deadly AI, like the humans in The Last of Us, the Helghast from Killzone, and many others (I really wanna try F.E.A.R. for that reason)

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#10 i-rock-socks
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@conviic said:

I didn't played the sequels, but the games i have played my entire life i would say F.E.A.R 1 has the most impressive AI. Although i haven't played the rest of the franchise to see if they improved even more.

they dont, fear has some of the best enemy AI ive encountered

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#11 ice_ranger
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Splinter cell: Blacklist has impressive AI.

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#12 chaplainDMK
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While in practice not really that impressive, ArmA 3's AI is technically pretty awesome. Considering that it can make military squads and soldiers behave quite authentically in a giant open sandbox with a DIY mission editor.

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#13 ojmstr
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I have seen a video of Tlou where they talk about the Ai where they show some examples of how great the Ai is in that game, there where things in that video i didn't even know about after beating the game 3-4 times and it was really impressive. There are some things they might have done different to improve the Ai like when your hidden with Joel and the enemy should have spotted Ellie but that would probably be really hard to implement in that game for it to not break the flow of the gameplay, idk.. what do you guys think about that? This is the only thing i can say that is negative about the Ai in that game but there are so many other great aspects of Tlou overall so that to me really doesn't matter at all.

I have never played F.E.A.R but ill definitely check it out one day.

Arma seems like a realistic tactical shooter and probably one of the most realistic shooters out there so i have no doubt it has great Ai, realism equals great Ai in many cases, but also natural Ai behavour in for instance like a non realistic game like F.E.A.R.

I have experienced some pretty good Ai in Gears Of War Judgment multiplayer, if the other team lost a player he would be replaced by a bot and i swear some times i was 100% sure i was fighting a human player.

It's in pure offline games i really want to see the Ai shine though, i want to experience those moments where you just say to your self "holy shit is that even possible" and tbh it's not often i experience that and really notice great Ai, most of the time i feel there is just this pattern the Ai is following, should be more natural behavour from the Ai in many games and in many different situations within a game.

Hoping for much improvement on the Ai in the coming years on current gen, i think that is the next thing developers should focus on from now, so many things the developers can do from my point of view as a gamer but it's probably a real challange, there are most likely technical hurdles they must overcome and also time consuming for the developers to say the least.

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#14  Edited By Ariabed
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Splintercell blk list.

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#15  Edited By MirkoS77
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I remember Far Cry 3 impressing me at points.

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I remember Halo when i first played it had the best AI i'd seen in a game to that point. Enemies didn't blindly charge you and it made it really difficult to kill them because they would use cover and act realistic. And they all acted in their own way, like the flood would all out charge you while the covenent would be more intelligent in its fights against you. So for 2001 i'd say Halo was ahead of its time.

Probably a game i like the most but has the worst AI is Civilization games. They have no idea how to make the AI smart, so for higher difficulty settings, all they do is give the AI advantages like lower unit maintenance costs etc. I wish they'd make the AI actually smart instead of just cheating to win against you.

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Killzone 2 is pretty crazy.

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#18 sukraj
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Halo games

Far Cry 3 and 4

FEAR

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#19 wittyplot
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I still remember when I've noticed the giant leap on the AI, when I started playing the first Half-life. Those soldiers where really smart at that time, by making their ambushes and avoiding fire and grenades.

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#20 CTR360
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Fear killzone2&3 halo series ninja gaiden las of us demons souls dark souls 1

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#21  Edited By Shatilov
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if u want to play anything from last gen or early last gen, i recommend you play F.E.A.R. First Encounter Assault Recon + its Expansions, it got the best ai I ever seen. Get the PC versions, the PS3 versions have washed out textures, even when it was released on the consoles, it was washed out, the PC version is great.

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#22  Edited By Ish_basic
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@ojmstr: There are some things they might have done different to improve the Ai like when your hidden with Joel and the enemy should have spotted Ellie but that would probably be really hard to implement in that game for it to not break the flow of the gameplay, idk.. what do you guys think about that?

I don't see that as a deficiency. That was a conscious choice. AI pathing is notoriously unreliable. People would be getting frustrated left and right if they were getting spotted because of AI controlled Ellie not being able to keep up with the player or getting stuck on objects or taking improper routes, etc. So you can sacrifice some realism to save that frustration by making the AI controlled characters invisible while the player is stealthed. I think that's a fair trade.

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#23 ojmstr
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@Ish_basic: I agree, that's what i thought as well, they did it to not break the flow of the gameplay. They probably tried many different things regarding this very subject but it comprimised the gameplay so it just had to be that way. Would look kinda unrealistic and stupid as well if Ellie constantly was clinging on to Joel and be at the exact same spot as him at every given time throughout the whole game and it would be frustrating as hell if Ellie allways got spotted the way the game runs now so they just had to find that sweetspot in the middle to make the best gameplay out of it.

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#24 Crush_Project
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realize this is an old post, but if your still looking galactic civ 2 had some intelligent aspects to its ai. Arma like previously said is pretty good, but make sure you mod it out. Infact if you want better ai in general your pretty much forced to go to the mod community as the industry has been using the same ai really since the inception. As far as moded games go dawn of war had some sick ai mods, i wanna say some of the total wars and old school Stalker i wanna say was pretty good. Also Mount and Blade Warband and X3 are capable of some crazy stuff.

Hoping it gets too expensive to do the latest graphics one day and they are forced to do smarter things with their games themselves, but that is not a place we are at and its easier to make games for nubs and people that like to buy a game and be done with it in 10 hours and go get another lol.

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#25 ojmstr
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@Crush_Project: It's more that im interrested in the subject of Ai than really looking for it but thanks anyways bud, i'll check out those games you mentioned. Hoping the developers of next gen gaming will step up the Ai, hasn't been much progress in all these years that's for sure! Now with VR gaming is starting to flourish next year Ai will probably be more important than ever to not break the immersion.

Btw that is so true what your saying that it's so much easyer to make games for nubs, mainstream gamers are pretty much ok with everything it seems when it comes to the gaming industry, we oldshoolers have seen the progression and it hasn't moved alot forward with the Ai part.

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#26 doubalfa
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Halo Reach had really impressive A.I. stupid Elites I hate them

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@Crush_Project: A few weeks is really the permitted limit for a thread bump so I'm locking this.

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