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#1 jack_michael
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i probably sound like a noob dont i.
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#2 LordAndrew
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It means nothing. It's just a buzzword.
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#3 jack_michael
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ok....but it was just used as a con for the xbox not having it in a topic.

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#4 AtomicTangerine
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It's when the game literally punches you in the face!

Actually, it's more like when Sony kept saying "True HD" even though most of their HDTVs didn't even display what they were calling "True HD."

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#5 LordAndrew
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Was this in System Wars?
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#6 musicXpirate
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Watch this video. Your life will change... http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php
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i've heared it's time itself.. like the idea of a building blowing up and you saving, coming back and finding that because you left it out for a week the entire block burnt down!
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#8 jack_michael
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the 16th post :

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26049303

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i've heared it's time itself.. like the idea of a building blowing up and you saving, coming back and finding that because you left it out for a week the entire block burnt down!tiedye_duality_

This is true the 4th dimension is indeed time itself

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#10 tiedye_duality_
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Watch this video. Your life will change... http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.phpmusicXpirate
woah, this sorta explanes how the universe could expand, the cycle just goes on. I think this atually has changed the way i perseve things.. but not in the way that science can tell us that cr*p is all part of the nitrate cycle, like i know this can be what you make of it. Darn i'm making no sence, oh well, i'm a genious somewhere you know!
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#11 LordAndrew
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I have a confession to make: I'm from the future.

I came here using the power of the PlayStation 3 to tell you how awesome Metal Gear Solid 4 is.

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#12 cirthlanthelios
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It is time. If your game has a save option then you already have 4D in it. Technically you have it anyway since it takes time to play but the ability to go back in time and redo a part of a game is what most people are looking for.

If someone is advertising a game as 4D then they are scamming you.

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[QUOTE="musicXpirate"]Watch this video. Your life will change... http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.phptiedye_duality_
woah, this sorta explanes how the universe could expand, the cycle just goes on. I think this atually has changed the way i perseve things.. but not in the way that science can tell us that cr*p is all part of the nitrate cycle, like i know this can be what you make of it. Darn i'm making no sence, oh well, i'm a genious somewhere you know!

I know what you mean. It pretty much explains everything.

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#14 NECR0CHILD313
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I'm sure there's a Pokemon for it or something.
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#15 MAILER_DAEMON
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the 16th post :

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26049303

jack_michael

That's the problem right there... you were in System Wars.

The first three dimensions are Length, Width, and Depth. The 4th one is time, then the 5th one is space.

Time is inherant to everything we do-- when you play a game, you don't literally experience the entire thing in one moment, but you spend time playing it to get through. So to say that a game is 4D is kind of implied. The jump from 2D to 3D was significant because rather than playing a game on a flat plane, you could explore the depth of the environment as well.

4D was a buzzword that Ken Kutaragi tried to use when the PS3 was in its hype phase, and he was saying that it would be the only console capable of doing that. The fact is, time is already there-- even early 2D games still had time involved. Now if it were 5D, that would really be something. That's where you start getting to what you'd see in Star Trek with holodecks, where you are actually placed inside the virtual environment.

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#16 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="jack_michael"]

the 16th post :

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26049303

MAILER_DAEMON

That's the problem right there... you were in System Wars.

The first three dimensions are Length, Width, and Depth. The 4th one is time, then the 5th one is space.

Time is inherant to everything we do-- when you play a game, you don't literally experience the entire thing in one moment, but you spend time playing it to get through. So to say that a game is 4D is kind of implied. The jump from 2D to 3D was significant because rather than playing a game on a flat plane, you could explore the depth of the environment as well.

4D was a buzzword that Ken Kutaragi tried to use when the PS3 was in its hype phase, and he was saying that it would be the only console capable of doing that. The fact is, time is already there-- even early 2D games still had time involved. Now if it were 5D, that would really be something. That's where you start getting to what you'd see in Star Trek with holodecks, where you are actually placed inside the virtual environment.

How did you come to the conclusion of defining 5D in that manner?

The 5th dimension is something entirely different than what you explained. The X Y and Z axes in cartesian coordinates are what make up space as humans percieve it. The 5th dimension is something that humans merely can't percieve. What you are talking about is virtual reality, not 5th dimension.

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#17 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="jack_michael"]

the 16th post :

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26049303

SemiMaster

That's the problem right there... you were in System Wars.

The first three dimensions are Length, Width, and Depth. The 4th one is time, then the 5th one is space.

Time is inherant to everything we do-- when you play a game, you don't literally experience the entire thing in one moment, but you spend time playing it to get through. So to say that a game is 4D is kind of implied. The jump from 2D to 3D was significant because rather than playing a game on a flat plane, you could explore the depth of the environment as well.

4D was a buzzword that Ken Kutaragi tried to use when the PS3 was in its hype phase, and he was saying that it would be the only console capable of doing that. The fact is, time is already there-- even early 2D games still had time involved. Now if it were 5D, that would really be something. That's where you start getting to what you'd see in Star Trek with holodecks, where you are actually placed inside the virtual environment.

How did you come to the conclusion of defining 5D in that manner?

The 5th dimension is something entirely different than what you explained. The X Y and Z axes in cartesian coordinates are what make up space as humans percieve it. The 5th dimension is something that humans merely can't percieve. What you are talking about is virtual reality, not 5th dimension.

I was referring to space in a different sense... it's been explained to me before, but I can't remember which cIass it was in. Basically, it's the idea that you exist in one particular place within a defined space. You can't exist here and there.
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#18 cobrax75
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time....

I guess you can technically argue that games with dynamic time in place are 4D, like crysis, Witcher, STALKER...etc...but I dont know if thats a really solid argument.

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#19 XaosII
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If you want to get further, you need to discuss what a dimension is, and whether we are talking about them in games or real life. Its pretty easy for a game to house several dimensions based on your definition. Conversely, you can probably argue that games only consist of a single dimension of time.
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#20 zero_snake99
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4th Dimenion = Time. yay physics...