What is your opinion on the torture scene in GTA5? (no spoilers)

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#1 JangoWuzHere
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Do you think games should have this kind of stuff?

I wasn't super offended or grossed out by the scene, but I didn't see the point of making the scene interactive. It doesn't make you emotionally invested, it isn't fun, and it didn't really serve much of a point. I can understand that some people are totally not okay with playing scenes like that. I think just making the entire scene a cutscene would have been more effective. The torture feels super gamey anyway, so it just took me out of the story instead of actually immersing me more. Rockstar tried to shove a political message about torture at the end, but it feels really hammy and shoehorned in just so you wouldn't hate Trevor.

Do you think the scene should have been takin out, or are you okay with it being there?

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#2 Planeforger
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It was much lighter than I was expecting, which surprised me after all of the complaints. It wasn't particularly graphic, it wasn't particularly meaningful, and it felt like it was put in there just to stir up controversy. Still, I guess I enjoyed the joke end of it?
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#3 sukraj
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It was ok as far as i'm concerned.

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#4 hrt_rulz01
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It kinda pushed it abit too far for me... if they had to put it in, they should have just made it a cut scene. I didn't like it but that's just me...
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#5 Jacanuk
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Do you think games should have this kind of stuff?

I wasn't super offended or grossed out by the scene, but I didn't see the point of making the scene interactive. It doesn't make you emotionally invested, it isn't fun, and it didn't really serve much of a point. I can understand that some people are totally not okay with playing scenes like that. I think just making the entire scene a cutscene would have been more effective. The torture feels super gamey anyway, so it just took me out of the story instead of actually immersing me more. Rockstar tried to shove a political message about torture at the end, but it feels really hammy and shoehorned in just so you wouldn't hate Trevor.

Do you think the scene should have been takin out, or are you okay with it being there?

JangoWuzHere
The scene is fine and fit into a GTA game 100% and also its not that violent.
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#6 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Do you think games should have this kind of stuff?

I wasn't super offended or grossed out by the scene, but I didn't see the point of making the scene interactive. It doesn't make you emotionally invested, it isn't fun, and it didn't really serve much of a point. I can understand that some people are totally not okay with playing scenes like that. I think just making the entire scene a cutscene would have been more effective. The torture feels super gamey anyway, so it just took me out of the story instead of actually immersing me more. Rockstar tried to shove a political message about torture at the end, but it feels really hammy and shoehorned in just so you wouldn't hate Trevor.

Do you think the scene should have been takin out, or are you okay with it being there?

Jacanuk

The scene is fine and fit into a GTA game 100% and also its not that violent.

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#7 Gargus
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Its just a video game it isnt real. If someone doesnt like it then they should be playing it.

Taken out? Why? I thought we were supposed to be free to express ourselves and shit in this country. Why should rockstar censor something because it upsets a few people? People today are just panty waists that get way too upset about things that have absolutely nothing to do with them at all or effect their lives in the slightest bit.

My grandma doesnt like dexter because of the cursing, the nudity, the torture, the killing and so on. She tried it after I told her I liked it a lot. She thinks its terrible because she tried to watch it once and she watched a whole episode. But guess what? She stopped watching it and went on with her life and never said another word about it.

People spend way too much time of their lives focusing on finding offensive things that other people like. Everyone should just worry about their own business and focus on things that make them happy.

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#8 CarnageHeart
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Do you think games should have this kind of stuff?

I wasn't super offended or grossed out by the scene, but I didn't see the point of making the scene interactive. It doesn't make you emotionally invested, it isn't fun, and it didn't really serve much of a point. I can understand that some people are totally not okay with playing scenes like that. I think just making the entire scene a cutscene would have been more effective. The torture feels super gamey anyway, so it just took me out of the story instead of actually immersing me more. Rockstar tried to shove a political message about torture at the end, but it feels really hammy and shoehorned in just so you wouldn't hate Trevor.

Do you think the scene should have been takin out, or are you okay with it being there?

JangoWuzHere

MILD SPOILER ALERT FOR THE WHOLE POST

I agree. I just played it yesterday and it was just kind of meaningless. Trevor inflicting horrible pain on people? Stop the presses! The fact the player is forced to torture some random dude added to the scene's meaninglessness. At the beginning you're told about the need to keep the guy alive as if it matters, but when he dies, you just automatically revive him so I suspect there was more interactivity at one point but Rockstar toned it down.

Also, interactivity isn't just letting me choose how to torture a guy, its letting me choose whether or not to torture a guy and choosing which guy to torture. Maybe you have to follow a couple guys and figure out who the terrorist(s) is, with the game not automatically failing you if you make the wrong choie (as it does with the sniper bit) but letting you continue and then finding out down the line you messed up after the guy is unable to tell you anything useful or maybe even when when a terror attack happens.

Of course, while the scene is wildly underwhelming from a story/gameplay standpoint, the fact that it is there at all might spark controversy (though I doubt it). Controversy/condemnation (from the likes of Fox News) is probably what Rockstar was looking for when they added that scene because that sort of thing gooses sales and keeps GTA 'edgy' in an industry where extreme violence is common.

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#9 Verityrant
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I felt it was fine, it was in line with Trevor's character, and it didn't bother me. Being a proponent of free speech and free expression, I am not into wondering if games should have this kinda stuff. I think games, movies, books, any form of expression you can think of, can and should have whatever the artists feel the need to include to say what they wish to say. If something isn't your cup of tea, your place is to ignore it, not to say whether it should be there.
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#10 Lostboy1224
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No big deal for a mature game that isn't meant for children. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. Could've been a lot worse.
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#11 JangoWuzHere
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Its just a video game it isnt real. If someone doesnt like it then they should be playing it.

 

Taken out? Why? I thought we were supposed to be free to express ourselves and shit in this country. Why should rockstar censor something because it upsets a few people? People today are just panty waists that get way too upset about things that have absolutely nothing to do with them at all or effect their lives in the slightest bit.

 

My grandma doesnt like dexter because of the cursing, the nudity, the torture, the killing and so on. She tried it after I told her I liked it a lot. She thinks its terrible because she tried to watch it once and she watched a whole episode. But guess what? She stopped watching it and went on with her life and never said another word about it.

 

People spend way too much time of their lives focusing on finding offensive things that other people like. Everyone should just worry about their own business and focus on things that make them happy.

Gargus

How does making the torture scene in GTA5 interactive make the scene better? There is a big difference between interacting with a scene and watching it like a TV show. I have to actually do stuff in the torture scene, while in a TV show you skip ahead or look away until the scene is over. The entire scene just takes you out of the story anyway, so I really don't understand why it's even there in the first place

If Rockstar can express themseleves in anyway they see fit, then people also have a right to praise/critizie whatever they put in the game.

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All GTAV discussion should be in the GTAV thread