What's the hardest JRPG or RPG you've played?

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#1 ABoffman
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For me I'd have to say Xenosaga. I was new to RPG's when I played it and it was freaking ricockulously difficult.
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#2 aoshi_shinumori
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FINAL FANTASY VII
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SMT:Nocturne probably
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Hardest for me was getting a 100% perfect game on the import version of FF X. This includes all the monster bosses, max stats, full grid, unlocked ultimate weapons ( lightning dodges ftl ), all the dark aeons, and beating Penance who pretty much requires max everything to even bother trying.
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#5 magdalene2008
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Final Fantasy 8.

Because...

it's too mushy.

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#6 BladesOfAthena
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Final Fantasy 8.

Because...

it's too mushy.

magdalene2008

Oh? That was what I loved the most about FF VIII. I love a good romance story in an RPG.

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FINAL FANTASY VIIaoshi_shinumori

You're kididng right?

Wizardry IV: Return of Werdna has to qualify as the all time hardest RPG I ever played.

I thought RPG's in the 80's were generally more difficult than they were today. Most games weren't as well balanced as they were today and you had to spend a lot more time levelling up. And often you had to solve riddles and puzzles that you couldn't just google for. I remember spending hours and hours trying to solve a simple stupid riddles in the Bard's Tale series. (No clues were given you just had to know the answer to the riddle)

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Secrets of Mana

That came can be immensely dangerous at times
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Dragon Warrior VIII so far. Not that it's hair pulling hard, but it does have it's moments. Sucks when some random encounters feel like boss fights.
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#10 Anofalye
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The original Bard's Tale II. Secret of the Silver Blades or the sequel was equally hard.

The DragonLance trilogy was perhaps the most challenging on a tactical level, but not on a RPG-level...that is part of the reason why I like it that much.

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#11 110million
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SMT:Nocturne probablymorph_basic

This and Persona 3: FES, The Answer (2nd part of the game), grinding was useless, everything bosses could take for damage, they had the ability to dodge..

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#12 Magnol49
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Baldur's Gate II: Shadow of Amn. Great game, huge learning curve.
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Etrian Odyssey is punishingly hard at the outset.
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Hardest for me was getting a 100% perfect game on the import version of FF X. This includes all the monster bosses, max stats, full grid, unlocked ultimate weapons ( lightning dodges ftl ), all the dark aeons, and beating Penance who pretty much requires max everything to even bother trying. Alter_Echo
Yeah.....one of those ultimate monsters from the Monster trainer that looked like Sin or something....yeah...I watched my brother play the NTSC version with everyone at 99999 HP, 9999 MP and giving 99999 damage with attacks, all aeons (never knew about dark aeons), weapons, and everything else... and he still got owned.
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Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter. That game was so (intentionally) hard it is designed for you to die and start over (as in from the beginning) as you could restart the game and maintain your character levels. I've yet to beat the game but I will give it another shot in the future and beat it no matter how long it takes.

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being a diplomate in fallout 2
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#18 MicWazowski
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Kingdom Hearts (I don't play RPGs). Getting 100% isn't a picnic, either.
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#19 The__MCP
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Anyone who chooses Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts is automatically disqualified. LOL
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There's not even any competition this gen. Etrian Odyssey, and I haven't played 2, which is supposedly harder.
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#22 ASK_Story
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Dragon Quest III on the Gameboy Color. I loved it since it was the first DQ game I ever played, but the old school`ness kicked my butt. It wasn't really the challenge or the bosses, but the constant random battles and grinding.
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[QUOTE="aoshi_shinumori"]FINAL FANTASY VIIFinaru

You're kididng right?

Wizardry IV: Return of Werdna has to qualify as the all time hardest RPG I ever played.

I thought RPG's in the 80's were generally more difficult than they were today. Most games weren't as well balanced as they were today and you had to spend a lot more time levelling up. And often you had to solve riddles and puzzles that you couldn't just google for. I remember spending hours and hours trying to solve a simple stupid riddles in the Bard's Tale series. (No clues were given you just had to know the answer to the riddle)

I find todays games to be much harder than the ones in the 80s. In the 80s and early 90s, a game can be beaten if I really try hard enough. Today, I can't do it without a Gameshark. Also, I simply don't have the hours of time needed to power up my player.

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#24 blacksiteninja
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uh, golden sun was kinda hard just cuz i was ridiculously under leveled when i got to the last boss
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#25 voltzila
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Yeah not to mention getting Ivan's ultimate weapon was really annoying.

For those of you that haven't played in order to get his weapon you had to go to the top of the final dungeon before you fought the boss and run around getting into random battles. If you were really lucky you would fight a specific group of enemies and they would drop the weapon. But the chances of that were only five percent even when you fought that group of enemies. Imagine how annoyed I was when my friend got it in his first battle in that dungeon:cry:

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For beating a game I would have to say Starocean because I suck at that wierd real time gameplay of that game (never beat anyways). For a 100% completion I would have to say FFX just because of the massive sphere grid and the lods of secrets involved in that game.
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Do you mean hard or cheap? The latter goes to The 7th Saga, due to the excessive amounts of level grinding, hard was Fire Emblem: Thracia 776.
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[QUOTE="aoshi_shinumori"]FINAL FANTASY VIIFinaru

You're kididng right?

Wizardry IV: Return of Werdna has to qualify as the all time hardest RPG I ever played.

I thought RPG's in the 80's were generally more difficult than they were today. Most games weren't as well balanced as they were today and you had to spend a lot more time levelling up. And often you had to solve riddles and puzzles that you couldn't just google for. I remember spending hours and hours trying to solve a simple stupid riddles in the Bard's Tale series. (No clues were given you just had to know the answer to the riddle)

i rememb er in the wixardry series typing in words for the puzzles and usually if you got them wrong, there were some tough foes to fight... Wizardry would have to be the thoughest RPG I've ever played
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Super robot taisen,Final fantasy 8,Final fantasy 10.Final fantasy 8 and super robot taisen i never finish yet. those games are way too hard!
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I haven't played any that I think were really difficult.
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#31 magdalene2008
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[QUOTE="magdalene2008"]

Final Fantasy 8.

Because...

it's too mushy.

BladesOfAthena

Oh? That was what I loved the most about FF VIII. I love a good romance story in an RPG.

Well, if it's something like between Tifa vs Aerith plus Cloud than it's ok. But Rinoa and Squall all the way is too much for me. Dunno...it's kinda hard for me to explain because it's totally subjective.

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#32 Czenkus
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Baldur's Gate II: Shadow of Amn. Great game, huge learning curve. Magnol49
Agreed
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#33 demonfox13
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HAH! You wanna know a freakin hard that can be borderline ridiculous one? Demon's Souls. I am going on 12 hours, 1 broken control and about 4 vicodens.

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Go play Demon's Souls. If you haven't shot yourself, broken your monitor with your controller, or thrown your ps3 out the window with yourself, come back and reply rofl.

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Demon's Souls...:evil:

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[QUOTE="magdalene2008"]

Final Fantasy 8.

Because...

it's too mushy.

That's not a valid answer!
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Do you mean hard or cheap? The latter goes to The 7th Saga, due to the excessive amounts of level grinding, hard was Fire Emblem: Thracia 776.Video_Game_King

Agreed! I actually restarted my game in the middle of it because the elf kept killing me when I tried to gether rune.

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#38 War_Fox
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[QUOTE="Metamania"][QUOTE="magdalene2008"]

Final Fantasy 8.

Because...

it's too mushy.

That's not a valid answer!

:lol: i think Xenosaga was the hardest for me.
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Probably FF Tactics. The level scaling made it more frustrating than it should have been.
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[QUOTE="morph_basic"]SMT:Nocturne probably110million

This and Persona 3: FES, The Answer (2nd part of the game), grinding was useless, everything bosses could take for damage, they had the ability to dodge..

If The Answer is as hard as I'm hearing it is, I'm thinking I might just skip it and go straight to Persona 4. Or just watch all of the cutscenes on Youtube.
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Probably Persona 3 Fes. You gotta be careful picking your moves. If you character gets knocked off their feet that's another turn for the monster. :(
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Gothic 2 and 3

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Gothic 3

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#44 MadVybz
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Interesting title you got going here. So, JRPGs aren't in the RPG genre?

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#45 MadVybz
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Do you mean hard or cheap? The latter goes to The 7th Saga, due to the excessive amounts of level grinding, hard was Fire Emblem: Thracia 776.Video_Game_King

Oh God, I HATED that game. So, so much. :x

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#46 KittyHeart
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if anyone has played hoshigami (PS1), they will agree with me

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Baldur´s Gate 2 and TES:Dagerfall and Arena