whats with the praise for knights of the old republic?

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#1 plimpoperp
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ok so my friends lent me it like 5 months ago and i played it the day i got it and imo the fighting is absolute crap. so i forgot all about it than a few days ago i got told by loads of people to play it and i go back in and my views havent changed. it would been better had they just let us fight normally...

so what is the game praised for? it sure as hell cant be the fight system

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#2 Uncanny_Doom
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The combat system works fine. It's an RPG, not an Action game. It also has a brilliant story (one of the greatest plot twists ever in gaming), great use of the Star Wars universe, and a strong cast of voice actors. You have to realize what kind of game you're playing before you try to judge how it plays.
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#3 UT_Wrestler
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[QUOTE="plimpoperp"]

ok so my friends lent me it like 5 months ago and i played it the day i got it and imo the fighting is absolute crap. so i forgot all about it than a few days ago i got told by loads of people to play it and i go back in and my views havent changed. it would been better had they just let us fight normally...

so what is the game praised for? it sure as hell cant be the fight system

It's a quasi-turn based rpg, not an action game. It has an excellent skill progression system, and the combat is quite entertaining and rewarding when you actually take the time to learn how do it and use it right, which you apparently chose not to do. It also allows for making moral decisions which lead your character down either the light side or dark side, which affects the side missions you undertake and has a dramatic effect on the ending. The game you are criticizing won more GOTY awards when it came out than any other game that year.
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#4 LadyFreyja
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Also.. it is an older game. If you play an xbox game you can't really expect it to feel like it was meant for the 360.

Speaking of which, does any know if kotor is actually backwards compatible now? I heard that there was a ton of glitches when you tried to use it on a 360 that made it practically unplayable.

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#5 PlayBox39
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ok so my friends lent me it like 5 months ago and i played it the day i got it and imo the fighting is absolute crap. so i forgot all about it than a few days ago i got told by loads of people to play it and i go back in and my views havent changed. it would been better had they just let us fight normally...

so what is the game praised for? it sure as hell cant be the fight system

plimpoperp

I agree with you the battle system is awful and it ruined the whole game for me it sucks.

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#6 raahsnavj
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Well, the battle system was partially turn based, which made it more than just the typical 3rd person shooter / brawler. The story line showed up and amazed people that star wars wasn't all about the prequels (which did not meet expectations). It was an RPG that appeared to have some real depth to it, allowing for multiple discussion trees at first glance, heck you even get to kill one of the main characters early on in the game if you so desire. Really there is only one thing I didn't like in it, and that was the whiny Carth... The sequel however lacked any polish what-so-ever.
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#7 dchan01
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This game is not meant for non RPG fans. Sorry it's not the action game you want it to be. Go play Force Unleashed. (if you dare play that tripe)
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#8 Black_Knight_00
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I remember having a terrible first impression of the game and hating the first half-hour or so. After that it becomes great, one of the best games I have on the xbox.
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#9 Iceman8012
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Let me guess you played for five minutes and said it was "stupid". Every RPG is bad at first before you gain any decent skills or armors and weapons. KOTOR does s*** until you get more into like every RPG.
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#10 Angry_Beaver
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I never beat the second one. Obsidian was rushed by Lucas Arts to get the second one out by Christmas that year, and boy does it show. That thing is incredibly buggy and incomplete. But... the parts that are fine are actually improvements over the gameplay in the first game, and I really like the atmosphere and characters. Team Gizka has been working on restoring some of the content to the PC game, but waiting for that is like waiting for Duke Nukem Forever to come out. Not sure how it's coming along.

KotOR is amazing. Great characters, great story, and lots of cool Jedi/Sith moves and powers. :)

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#11 bigd575
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It's an RPG that probably why you don't like it that much, it was a fantastic game imo.
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#12 PlayBox39
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Well, the battle system was partially turn based, which made it more than just the typical 3rd person shooter / brawler. The story line showed up and amazed people that star wars wasn't all about the prequels (which did not meet expectations). It was an RPG that appeared to have some real depth to it, allowing for multiple discussion trees at first glance, heck you even get to kill one of the main characters early on in the game if you so desire. Really there is only one thing I didn't like in it, and that was the whiny Carth... The sequel however lacked any polish what-so-ever.raahsnavj

Well that's why I didn't like the battle system it was very turn-based to me and I don't like Trun based Rpg's

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#13 mayforcebeyou
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maybe the combat. the combat isn't as good as in mass effect
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#14 UT_Wrestler
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maybe the combat. the combat isn't as good as in mass effectmayforcebeyou
I think people who enjoyed the AD&D rules of KOTOR would have to strongly disagree with you.
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#15 plimpoperp
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It's an RPG that probably why you don't like it that much, it was a fantastic game imo.bigd575
Let me guess you played for five minutes and said it was "stupid". Every RPG is bad at first before you gain any decent skills or armors and weapons. KOTOR does s*** until you get more into like every RPG.Iceman8012
to both every rpg ive played barring fable, kotor and elder scrolls, ive love and i mean ive played over and over!
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#16 HIMSteveO
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There are a couple of reasons why KOTOR is awesome (some of which have been mentioned by other users thus far). It's a ton of fun (especially dark side...), a great narrative and gameplay experience, is one of the best uses of the star wars license, giving you the best 'jedi' experience/feeling, has a great amount of force powers, and many different quest types (like playing detective early on, that part was cool). I remember being in the middle of playing it one day when a mate of mine came round (I was playing dark side on this run through), and decided to save some guy, then threaten and kill him. Which gave my mate a good laugh...

I'm also one of those that thought that the second one was almost as good as the original. I liked the story, and it gave me exactly what I wanted, more KOTOR goodness. I've played through both quite a number of time. It's one of my favourite series' ever, and pretty much got me into RPG's...

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#17 super_police
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I dislike the game because I bought the pc version, brought it home and installed it, but it wouldnt run on my video card even though my video card was above spec. I tried all manner of tweaking, trying lots of old drivers, but couldnt get it to work.
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#18 ZZsharpshooter
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Well, of course you think it's crap. The game is several years old, and compared with newer and upcoming titles, it's not much. But at the time it was a great game, and so people who played it and loved it at the time naturally think it is a classic.
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#19 Im_single
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Well, of course you think it's crap. The game is several years old, and compared with newer and upcoming titles, it's not much. But at the time it was a great game, and so people who played it and loved it at the time naturally think it is a classic.ZZsharpshooter
I played KOTOR last year, one of the best games I've played. Casual gamers will be turned off by the AD&D turn based combat, I know I was at first, but when you get used to it the game becomes a blast.
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#20 foxhound_fox
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My guess is you were expecting an action-adventure and got a action-oriented turn-based role-playing game.

The reason the game gets so much praise is because it is one of the finer points of the WRPG genre in the past decade... which is quite unfortunate considering everything that came out in the mid-late '90's.
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Even as a huge fan of RPG's I have never enjoyed BioWares work. I don't know why.
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#22 marinerfan182
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Well it's Star Wars and it has a great story. Those are two good reasons right there.
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#23 plimpoperp
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Well, of course you think it's crap. The game is several years old, and compared with newer and upcoming titles, it's not much. But at the time it was a great game, and so people who played it and loved it at the time naturally think it is a classic.ZZsharpshooter
this answer is completely wrong. i still play tetris, police quest, ff7 hell ff1 for god sakes on my nes. age and comparison to later games is no reason a game sucks
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#24 Kev_Boy
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To me, this game was a boring and long monstrocity of what could have been exciting role-playing story driven Star Wars action. One of the weaker games I've ever played.
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#25 wizdom
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Let me guess you played for five minutes and said it was "stupid". Every RPG is bad at first before you gain any decent skills or armors and weapons. KOTOR does s*** until you get more into like every RPG.Iceman8012
I agree, I haven't played a rpg and from the begining said this is amazing...not one of them (ffx and chrono cross/trigger included)...I think its a amazing rpg and one of my top 10 rpg's of all time.
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#26 kdsns
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Theres alot that they did right.

They created an incredibly true universe which captured the spirit of Star Wars while still doing something fresh and unique with it, everything from the characters to the music. The dialogue system was fantastic and allowed for incredible freedom in playing the game how you wanted and defining your character. The whole good/evil choice system was great and really deep. The combat was simple, strategic and yet appealing to action fans as well as RPG fans.

And most of all, they created what I think is easily one of the best stories put into a game. Its well written and thought out and it carries alot of emotional punch. Add the good/evil roleplaying to it and its just an unforgettable expericne.

I thought the combat was great

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#27 Valamil
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KOTOR and KOTOR 2 both sucked me in. I just replayed them both last week and they were as fun as ever. Its the story that does it. What Star Wars fan has only watched A New Hope once?