When will the PS2 die?

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#1 tjoeb123
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Before anyone freaks out and hits the report button, no, I don't hate the PS2 in any way. But my concern is that....why are there companies still making games for PS2? Last time I checked, most, if not all, of us have moved on to systems like a (hopefully re-implemented in the future) backwards-compatible PS3. (Why won't you listen, Sony?!) Because of that I think gamers such as myself have missed out on plenty of excellent games (mostly JRPGs) after the current consoles came out. For example: Ar Tonelico Qoga. When finalstar2007 introduced this to me, I was like "What the hell is this?" before reading the thread. So I did. I watched the trailer he posted, and that was enough for me to pre-order the game because I'm tired of missing out on NISA/Gust greats and didn't want to miss out on this one. That, and doing so would net me a visual book and CD. So I get to go pick up the game next week. Yey. (lol) What I found out later (like, at the end of said trailer) is that this is the final game in the series. Doing a tad bit of research led me to find out that the 1st 2 Ar Tonelicos were on...guess what? The PS2. Now I wish I could've played them. I still can, but that's not the point. There you have it: 3 Ar Tonelico games: 2 on PS2, 1 on PS3 (Qoga). And then there's Mana-Khemia 2. I personally prefer playing it on the PSP after doing so with MK1. A PSP port was released in Japan not long after US release, but 2 years (or 1 and a half) and still nothing on a US localization of said port. Boo. Now, I understand that developers might find a profit to keep making games for PS2, but why continue to do this? Eventually they would just end up wasting all of their resources (this includes Sony as well) trying to support an old platform, much like EA and their online server cuts. Besides, I don't want to hook up my PS2 again....I would rather play such games on my PS3, where the controller is more comfortable and more "free" (if you know what I mean) than its predecessor. So basically, in a nutshell, the PS2 needs to die. Question is, when will it?
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#2 spookykid143
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When it stops selling

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#3 CADMAN_3
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The same reason why sony didn't kill off the PS1 when PS2 was already out. It makes money. The same will go for the PS3 when they release a PS4, sony will keep making money off of the PS3 even when it looks like everyone has bought the latest and greatest system. This is the thing that hurt MS, they killed off the Xbox way to soon. If they would have kept it going even after the release of the 360 they would have still made money off of it. I'm still spending money on PS2 and Xbox games even though I have a PS3 and 360 elite. I still like to play my PS2 and Xbox games just as much as I do the new systems.

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#5 Demonjoe93
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Hasn't it already died? I mean I never hear of any games coming out for it anymore.

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#6 Dogswithguns
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I hope not cuz Im still like and play old PS2 games more than anything else.. and Im planning on getting another PS2 Slim for backup.
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#7 tjoeb123
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Hasn't it already died? I mean I never hear of any games coming out for it anymore.

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No. If it was dead I wouldn't see a PS2 New section in my Gamestop anymore. But like I said, I wish they would at least try to include PS2 compatibility with the slim models (PS3), like they do with the PS1. Also, the PS2 technically hasn't changed a bit since it first came out. No firmware updates, no Memory Cards bigger than 8MB, no more online support, nothing.
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#8 lamprey263
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when the PS3 gets PS2 BC back :P
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#9 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Hasn't it already died? I mean I never hear of any games coming out for it anymore.

tjoeb123

No. If it was dead I wouldn't see a PS2 New section in my Gamestop anymore. But like I said, I wish they would at least try to include PS2 compatibility with the slim models (PS3), like they do with the PS1. Also, the PS2 technically hasn't changed a bit since it first came out. No firmware updates, no Memory Cards bigger than 8MB, no more online support, nothing.

I didn't know they still made games for that system. Reminds me of how the NES survived a few years into the next generation after its.

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#10 MathMattS
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I don't think the PS2 necessarily needs to die. It's a great example of the staying power of a smartly-implemented system. It's still very relevant as a system, I think.

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#11 DarkCatalyst
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The smart players didn't "move on", they just folded the PS3 into the collective of systems they own and play.
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#12 Mesden
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I don't know why people still want to purchase a PS2 when they can easily purchase a non-PS3 Slim model and get the same thing...

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#13 tjoeb123
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I don't know why people still want to purchase a PS2 when they can easily purchase a non-PS3 Slim model and get the same thing...

Mesden
Make that EARLY non-PS3 Slim model. And devs just like to quietly slip out games for the systems these days.
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#14 Blabadon
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I don't know why people still want to purchase a PS2 when they can easily purchase a non-PS3 Slim model and get the same thing...

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Same, but consumers don't always research this far. That being said, if they wanted BC, they should search it up and buy an old one.
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#15 sayyy-gaa
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the ps2 will die when the cash cow has been completely milked.
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#16 Jackc8
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Why would a publisher quit making something that their customers want?

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#17 Floppy_Jim
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's still selling when the PS4 is out. It sold 5-6 (?) million last year, it doesn't need to die if it's still making Sony money.
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#18 Crimsader
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I thought it did already.
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I would say the PS2 will die in 2011. currently only a Baseball game MLB The Show 2011and WWE Superstars are the only 2011 PS2 games to come. That doesn't mean that there won't be a few in the 2nd/3rd/and 4th quarters of 2011. Sony will likely annouce it is stopping production of PS2 this year.

My guessSony will officially"can" the Playstation 2 in October 2011. But the PS2 has out sold the PSPGo in Japan. So it is hard to say when it will "die"

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#20 cprmauldin
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Never, I still play mine all the time and have a list of "to-buy" games a mile long.

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#21 anthonycg
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The PS2 generation was the last one where consoles weren't cheaply built and didn't break down on you.

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Smart players stick to PC ...

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#23 Omega1k
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When gaming dies.

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#24 XenoLair
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Hold on now, I still haven't gotten mine :P But yeah, all the PS2 is good today are the old exclusives and what you cant get for PC.

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#25 GamerStevo6
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PS2 doesn't need to die. It's ok, but everything else is better.

That being said, I think this time in 2-3 years nobody will use it.

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#26 DoctorMozG
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I think ps2 will be around for like 5 years minimum, consoles like this with good games like xenosaga series. Will not die that easly!

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#27 Hatiko
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I just got RE4 for mine. It was new too, I haven't had a PS2 game in plastic for a long time.

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#28 ubpoker123
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I know for myself the PS2 will never die, so many great games for the system. It puts every other system to shame in terms of number of high quality games.
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I would say the PS2 will die in 2011. currently only a Baseball game MLB The Show 2011and WWE Superstars are the only 2011 PS2 games to come. That doesn't mean that there won't be a few in the 2nd/3rd/and 4th quarters of 2011. Sony will likely annouce it is stopping production of PS2 this year.

My guessSony will officially"can" the Playstation 2 in October 2011. But the PS2 has out sold the PSPGo in Japan. So it is hard to say when it will "die"

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Most people don't buy the newly release games. Theres tons pf ps2 games compared to this gen and most imo is better than this gen except for a few

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#30 Stevo7991
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Hasn't it already died? I mean I never hear of any games coming out for it anymore.

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It didn't die, some games are still being released for it, like MLB 2011. The 1st xbox died though(I rarely play it).

TC: I'm guessing it will die when PS4 comes out. As of right now, most people are playing the ps3 and will hop into the PS4. Alot of people used to play the PS2.

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I still enjoy playing the PS2, I won't say more than but at least as much as the PS3. There are a lot of great games for it and plenty more come out every year. If it's still sucessful, there's no reason for it to die yet. The PS2 has been, I believe, the longest selling system since the NES. It's lasted over ten years, and it's still going. If it's still good, and people still like it, why not keep it going?

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I still enjoy playing the PS2, I won't say more than but at least as much as the PS3. There are a lot of great games for it and plenty more come out every year. If it's still sucessful, there's no reason for it to die yet. The PS2 has been, I believe, the longest selling system since the NES. It's lasted over ten years, and it's still going. If it's still good, and people still like it, why not keep it going?

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Because then people like me won't be able to hook them up to our TVs using a HD connection.
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#33 NukleaWorfair
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I've got a PS3 launch model with backwards PS1/PS2 compat, yet I don't play any of my PS1/2 games. But Sony are good for that, it's a good thing that they are still supporting the PS2. So what if they are making money.
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#34 NukleaWorfair
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[QUOTE="mariomaster16"]

I still enjoy playing the PS2, I won't say more than but at least as much as the PS3. There are a lot of great games for it and plenty more come out every year. If it's still sucessful, there's no reason for it to die yet. The PS2 has been, I believe, the longest selling system since the NES. It's lasted over ten years, and it's still going. If it's still good, and people still like it, why not keep it going?

tjoeb123
Because then people like me won't be able to hook them up to our TVs using a HD connection.

Why even bother to use a HD connection with a PS2?
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Here in the UK you'd be hard pressed to find any PS2 games or console accesories let alone the console itself. It must be on it's way out, its just taking its sweet time.

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in my eyes its dead already, and died when the PS3 came out.
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[QUOTE="mariomaster16"]

I still enjoy playing the PS2, I won't say more than but at least as much as the PS3. There are a lot of great games for it and plenty more come out every year. If it's still sucessful, there's no reason for it to die yet. The PS2 has been, I believe, the longest selling system since the NES. It's lasted over ten years, and it's still going. If it's still good, and people still like it, why not keep it going?

tjoeb123

Because then people like me won't be able to hook them up to our TVs using a HD connection.

If you're worried about HD then the PS2 is probably not for you. My TV has hook ups for any system, whether HD or not so owning an HD TV is no reason not to still play my PS2.

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#38 tjoeb123
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[QUOTE="tjoeb123"][QUOTE="mariomaster16"]

I still enjoy playing the PS2, I won't say more than but at least as much as the PS3. There are a lot of great games for it and plenty more come out every year. If it's still sucessful, there's no reason for it to die yet. The PS2 has been, I believe, the longest selling system since the NES. It's lasted over ten years, and it's still going. If it's still good, and people still like it, why not keep it going?

mariomaster16

Because then people like me won't be able to hook them up to our TVs using a HD connection.

If you're worried about HD then the PS2 is probably not for you. My TV has hook ups for any system, whether HD or not so owning an HD TV is no reason not to still play my PS2.

I have a HDTV as well but it only runs at 480p. I don't even have Component cables for it.
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#39 Born_Lucky
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1) In 2010 - 7 MILLION PS2s were sold.

2) By the time they bring back BC for PS3, the PS4 will be out. Sony screwed itself out of the largest console base in gaming history, I know I'll never buy a PS3

3) PS2 has sold 150 million units - neither the PS3 or the 360 are gonna even come close.

4) I have more than 90 PS2 games, almost half are backlog, and any current generation games that are any good - I get for PC, plus all the PC games that aren't on consoles.

5) The PS2 has more than 100 RPGs, the PS3 has less than 30

So why hasn't the PS2 died - because current gen doesn't have the games, that's why.

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#40 J-man45
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Yeah I agree. Goodness it's weird to actively support a non-current gen console.

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You'd be surprised by the list of people who are one step of console generations behind. Besieds, Gust didn't have the PS3 engine at that time, and many Japanese welcomed MK2 on PS2, so it was an easy choice. NISA merely localized it, just like any other PS2 games they did for Gust. No reason to bring up such a griming subject. :(
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#42 NukleaWorfair
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Here in the UK you'd be hard pressed to find any PS2 games or console accesories let alone the console itself. It must be on it's way out, its just taking its sweet time.

tomo90
new yes. But my local games shop is filled with PS2 games, 4x more than PS3 games.
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#43 ImBananas
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It did...

bloody idiots...taking my childhood away from me it like was just some crap nobody cared about.