Which are the things you hate about rpgs?

i hate non humanic characters, i hate characters which would abandon us later, speical npcs that is, i also hate when the game is actually stretched at the ending stages, like throwing pathetic puzzles, like findinga door to the final boss or something like solving large series of puzzles to unlock access to the final boss like in star ocean 2, i hate things which can only be known by faqs, which is a must i think since from ps one times, i simply hate to view unskippable scenes especially when like i have failed to beat a sub boss and would have to deal with the entire dialogue again.

thats about it for now which i can remember.

RPG's that aren't really RPG's

Attacking with a meele weapon right in the face and getting "miss" "miss" "miss"dakan45

The lack of story variety. Almost all of themhave the save the world storyline. There are a lot more stories to tell then the usual save the town, village, princess, world, galaxy, etc, etc, blah.

Planescape: Torment is a great example.

Getting ' knocked out ' or ' jailed ' where all your weapons and armour are confiscated, and having to find your gear again.

It's an ' artificial ' way of making a level harder and is incredibly cheap.

The lack of story variety. Almost all of themhave the save the world storyline. There are a lot more stories to tell then the usual save the town, village, princess, world, galaxy, etc, etc, blah.

Planescape: Torment is a great example.

Drosa

they blow up stuff...

How vague the definition of the genre is.

RPG's arent really prg's anymore, more action/adventure (stop streamlining them)

Grinding

Unskipable scenes even after Ive completed the game

Unoriginal story lines

No true consequence of choices

I hate when they become extreamly linear.

Those RPG with choices that make only matter at the end or after the game is done. Then the game set after only hid the choices result or pick the choices.

Most of them have some parts that drag on too much. Really annoying.

How vague the definition of the genre is.

Twin-Blade

I hate when RPGs are eshewing the classic conversation system in favor of the conversation wheel like Bioware has been doing with ME1 and 2 as well as all their modern games. Stop it!

I also dont like when RPGs force us to resolve most issues with violence and give us no other options.

I hate when they try to fuse and make "action rpgs" to try to rope in the fps audience. They usually just ends up being button masher games.

Oh, I also hate when everyone in the game speaks except the hero.

Most RPG's are overly complex and have a punishing learning curve for the average joe.

Most RPG's are overly complex and have a punishing learning curve for the average joe.

speedfreak48t5p

Hehe, the trend of dumbing down rpgs is one that bothers me. Guess everyone likes something different.

Bad story

I get annoyed by bad characters and or character development. Its possible to have a good overall narrative, but still have horrible characters. A good example would be FF12 which had a good overall story, but the characters will completely boring and forgettable.

Save points.

Grinding, both on JRPG's and WRPG's.

Yup, has to be grinding. It's the one thing that drags Dragon Age down for me is just running around trying to find something to kill to level up again. The "mute" lead character is annoying, but you can get used to it.

i grew up playin table top...so im used to complexity and slow gameplay...but amazing story and reallyin makin choices and having different story arcs...i really wish crpgs would be about something other than [a giant (insert ominous creature) is coming to destroy (insert whatever scope of existence). (insert your name) must destroy it, but you must become more powerful first. in order to become more powerful you must (insert action) some old forgotten legend (insert thingy). now that youve accomplished said task, and its taken any amount of time because said ominous creature will wait on you to be ready, you prepare for a giant battle against something that is 100x your size. you win, everyone loves you. you lose, someone in your party sacrifices themselves for the cause, you get up again, empowered by this, and win, again, everyone loves you.]

THIS IS BORING...ITS BEEN DONE A THOUSAND, THOUSAND TIMES!! at least in table top, the story is about something other than saving the world...heck...i played one where i was an assassin and i killed elminster during the time of troubles. it was awesome...only consequence of failing was my character went to another plane of existence...not everything in fantasy is about savin the world...heck...ive read entire books in fantasy about finding someplace...no destruction if u failed...it was just a grand adventure...the world wasnt sittin in the balance...thats what rpgs are supposed to be...yea on occasion u do something epic...but u can play a game without the dire circumstances the whole time...i love games like that...

Bad character development.

That one female character that has an annoying voice, and is always way to upbeat.

Lack of legendary weapons and armor. One of my favorite things in FF10 Was getting all the legendary weapons.

Eternal Sonata has pretty much everything I hate about RPGS besides a bad battle system. Your party consists of mostly children with a few pedophiles mixed in, there are tons of filler quests (you have to go through a whole a dungeon to fetch some water for a little girl), and there is hardly any enemy variety.

How there's usually the tall tower dungeon thrown somewhere in the game.

Attacking with a meele weapon right in the face and getting "miss" "miss" "miss"dakan45

Forced grinding. Then again, I don't mind it if there are side quests with hard bosses or the fights are good.BranKetra

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Forced grinding. Then again, I don't mind it if there are side quests with hard bosses or the fights are good.JustPlainLucas

I hate useless skills and spells that are a waste of time and MP. Also unskipable scenes.

Also the lack of skills. It take a good amount of freedom away from the player.

Ice puzzles. They're just as bad as any water level in platforming games (Mario and Sonic) in making you slow waaaaay the heck down. It's always sliding blocks or sliding yourself along apath. In every pokemon game, in Golden Sun, Tales of Symphonia, etc. I'd say let's do away with them completely.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Attacking with a meele weapon right in the face and getting "miss" "miss" "miss"JustPlainLucas

Another think I hate about some game that call themselves RPG also limit your role by only having Dialog tree and some other minor character interaction.

one of things that i could live without is the idea that rpg's are about statistical attributes, hoarding loot, and dice roles. good dialogue trees, characters to interact with, and compelling mechanics in the game world are much better at letting me actually role play. LoG-Sacrament

I can agree with this. I had a hard time wrapping my mind around Mass Effect actually being an RPG until I sat down and played it. Then I found ME2 to be even better with the removal of the inventory and streamline of abilities.

I mean, I enjoy number crunching and min/maxing as much as the next RP gamer, but having a deep, engaging story is what really makes a good RPG shine.

- Lack of customisation. I love having heaps of weapons and abilities to be able to customize my party with.

- Limited inventory space. Having to drop or discard something for something slightly more valuable is really tedious and annoying.

- No/Very little post-game content. After completing an RPG it's nice to be able to either go back through the game again with all your gear/abilities and try it on a harder difficulty level. Or even continuing the game after or right before the final boss so you can level up some more and get better items and stuff.

And finally...

-Bad voice acting. It just ruin's the illusion that these are actual people we are meant to care about. Also any whiny/high pitched voices are a pain. One is enough but anymore is going overboard.

When I play an RPG i want CHOICE. Thats what the genre is about, its about shaping your person.

So if I want to go though the window instead of a the door I can, if I want to stab the annoying person who gets in my way in the market elusively I can go ahead.

Thats the thing I really enjoy about Deus Ex, the developers have made an answer for as many situations as possible.