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#1 zombieoverlord1
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Okay I'm back and wondering,

Which is in your opinion the best final fantasy and why

and which in your opinion is the worst final fantasy and why

Best:Final Fantasy 6, Why: Villains always want to become gods, you know what!? Kefka acheives that and rules, the story line is solid, good length not bad game play

worst: Final fantasy 13, why: I havnt beat it or gotten far in it, but I think it sucks because of the fighting mech. and the linear aspect, I like non-linear

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#2 Daavpuke
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Best? VII: most content, most memorable characters, nice battle system, customizing, etc. Worst? I don't know. 2 or 3. One of them old ones that was rigid as hell. Can't remember which, but it was a hassle to play.
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#3 dmiller21892
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As for the best I'd have to say Final Fantasy VII. The amount of time you can spend playing that game without getting bored is absolutely absurd, and it's story, for me personally, was the best I've ever played through in a video game.

I think the title for worst is pretty hard to give out. There are a couple that don't live up to the greatness of the others (FF1 and FF5 are rather uninteresting, and FF3 isn't especially wonderful), but FF13 is pretty damn bad. For me a lot of the connection between gamer and character was lost when voice-overs were introduced into the games and FF13 isn't an exception. It's also just not really a fun game, regardless of its predecessors and the weight it's name holds.

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#4 jsh020
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well if i can pick any from out the entire serise

best: X defently and followed up by XIII(one of the best dubs ive ever heard.forgeting about vannile who does an ok job)and VIII

worst: without a doubt VII. the first disc is undeneibly perfect in every way. now the second disc is just awful. so many plotholes, cloud becomes one of the worst charecters ive ever seen(all he does is mope around and stay in a coma ohh becouse he doesnt think hes real boo hoo. dude you got a big breasted girl fawning all over you. what are you complaining about.) all the charecter sare justalong for the ride and have no purpose there with the exception of tifa shes awsome. i just think this is the game peaple should skip this game is just overall mediocer. this is the one final fantasy ide like to forget about. its not overated unlike what some peaple say. its got enough haters like me to be called underated by now

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#5 jsh020
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Best? VII: most content, most memorable characters, nice battle system, customizing, etc. Worst? I don't know. 2 or 3. One of them old ones that was rigid as hell. Can't remember which, but it was a hassle to play.Daavpuke
i think the one your thinking of being rigid is 3. it may be 2 but thats in the eye of the beholder. i personaly liked 2 even if im one of the 5 peaple to play it. but 3 was kinda grindy and if it werent for the remake that would have been my worst. just remember 3 was with luneth trying to save the world from cloud of darkness and 2 was firion and companions trying to overthrow the corrupt emporer matius.
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#6 dmiller21892
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worst: without a doubt VII. the first disc is undeneibly perfect in every way. now the second disc is just awful. so many plotholes, cloud becomes one of the worst charecters ive ever seen(all he does is mope around and stay in a coma ohh becouse he doesnt think hes real boo hoo. dude you got a big breasted girl fawning all over you. what are you complaining about.) all the charecter sare justalong for the ride and have no purpose there with the exception of tifa shes awsome. i just think this is the game peaple should skip this game is just overall mediocer. this is the one final fantasy ide like to forget about. its not overated unlike what some peaple say. its got enough haters like me to be called underated by now

jsh020

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now I know I'm kind of a fanboy for FF7 but if it takes abuse it should be legitimate. You say so many "plotholes" but I don't think that's really what you're talking about. The entirety of the story makes sense, albeit it can be extremely convoluted and confusing sometimes, but for something to be a plothole there needs to be a discrepancy between some of the contents of the storyline. And the second disc romanticizes the story and while I will concede that Cloud's character can be obnoxious sometimes because of his emotional troubles, let me just point out that Squall of FF8 is that to the extreme, and you haven't even mentioned him in your post. Besides, can you even imagine what he's going through during all of that? You're beginning to find out that some of your most important memories don't even belong to you, and you're not even going to do a little bit of introspecting? You're just going to admire your large-breasted companion and get over it all? Pshah. And when you say that "all the charecter sare justalong for the ride and have no purpose"... Well.. Well, that's just not even true a little bit. You essentially explore each and every characters' backstory in disc 2 so I don't even have the slightest idea of what you're talking about there.

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#7 MisterEditor
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Probably VII
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#8 TleilaxuMaster
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From the ones I've played all the way to the end, XII is the best. No more random encounters is enough reason by itself. But you also have the awesome combat system, plenty of extra side stuff (mark hunting, etc.), a huge, detailed, interesting world to explore, and a great story on top of it all.

IV is the worst, no question. The game takes things that any halfway decent RPG should leave up to the player and puts them on autopilot. Things as basic as choosing your own party, or any sort of character customization beyond changing equipment.

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#9 jsh020
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[QUOTE="TleilaxuMaster"]

From the ones I've played all the way to the end, XII is the best. No more random encounters is enough reason by itself. But you also have the awesome combat system, plenty of extra side stuff (mark hunting, etc.), a huge, detailed, interesting world to explore, and a great story on top of it all.

IV is the worst, no question. The game takes things that any halfway decent RPG should leave up to the player and puts them on autopilot. Things as basic as choosing your own party, or any sort of character customization beyond changing equipment.

keep in mind IV was one of the first real rpgs. they never had a choose your party option back then. it wasnt till 6 that appeared
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#10 jsh020
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[QUOTE="dmiller21892"]

[QUOTE="jsh020"]

worst: without a doubt VII. the first disc is undeneibly perfect in every way. now the second disc is just awful. so many plotholes, cloud becomes one of the worst charecters ive ever seen(all he does is mope around and stay in a coma ohh becouse he doesnt think hes real boo hoo. dude you got a big breasted girl fawning all over you. what are you complaining about.) all the charecter sare justalong for the ride and have no purpose there with the exception of tifa shes awsome. i just think this is the game peaple should skip this game is just overall mediocer. this is the one final fantasy ide like to forget about. its not overated unlike what some peaple say. its got enough haters like me to be called underated by now

the plotholes have nothing to do with the story but with the charecters. the only one i didnt think was screwed up beyond saving was tifa and red XIII. oh and i dont care what peaple say vincet is a horrible charecter.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now I know I'm kind of a fanboy for FF7 but if it takes abuse it should be legitimate. You say so many "plotholes" but I don't think that's really what you're talking about. The entirety of the story makes sense, albeit it can be extremely convoluted and confusing sometimes, but for something to be a plothole there needs to be a discrepancy between some of the contents of the storyline. And the second disc romanticizes the story and while I will concede that Cloud's character can be obnoxious sometimes because of his emotional troubles, let me just point out that Squall of FF8 is that to the extreme, and you haven't even mentioned him in your post. Besides, can you even imagine what he's going through during all of that? You're beginning to find out that some of your most important memories don't even belong to you, and you're not even going to do a little bit of introspecting? You're just going to admire your large-breasted companion and get over it all? Pshah. And when you say that "all the charecter sare justalong for the ride and have no purpose"... Well.. Well, that's just not even true a little bit. You essentially explore each and every characters' backstory in disc 2 so I don't even have the slightest idea of what you're talking about there.

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Best? VII: most content, most memorable characters, nice battle system, customizing, etc. Worst? I don't know. 2 or 3. One of them old ones that was rigid as hell. Can't remember which, but it was a hassle to play.Daavpuke
...What? :?

Well the "most memorable characters" and "nice battle system" is subjective but I'm pretty sure there are other FF games that outshine 7 in terms of amount of content and customization.

For me, best is a tie between 8 and 12.

Worst is probably FF4, although the hate it gets from me is unnecessary. Since it's the first Final Fantasy that brought in a cast of characters with a personality, a real story etc. I keep on thinking I'm playing something more recent (especially after the DS treatment), but when I pit it against other recent games, it falls short because of a now cliche story, restrictive battle system, annoying random battles, etc.

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#12 ThePerro
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I haven't played all of them but I'm going to say that FFIII(VI in JPN) is overrated. It's an okay RPG, but it gets so repetitive that I barely finished it. VII and IX are both great games but right now for best I'd give it to IX.

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#13 TleilaxuMaster
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[QUOTE="TleilaxuMaster"]

From the ones I've played all the way to the end, XII is the best. No more random encounters is enough reason by itself. But you also have the awesome combat system, plenty of extra side stuff (mark hunting, etc.), a huge, detailed, interesting world to explore, and a great story on top of it all.

IV is the worst, no question. The game takes things that any halfway decent RPG should leave up to the player and puts them on autopilot. Things as basic as choosing your own party, or any sort of character customization beyond changing equipment.

jsh020

keep in mind IV was one of the first real rpgs. they never had a choose your party option back then. it wasnt till 6 that appeared

Final Fantasy I lets you pick your party at the beginning of the game.

Final Fantasy II has a fixed party but lets you customize each character to your liking, teaching them whatever magic you want and deciding what weapons you want them to use and building their stats however you want.

Final Fantasy III lets you change jobs whenever you want. It's like changing your party without changing your characters.

That's three earlier games from the same series that give you more party/character customization options than Final Fantasy IV does.

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#14 Fusionmix
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Best: FFXII. Generic FF plot is secondary to awesome gameplay. Because let's face it, FF always has plots rife with enough cliches and abysmal character design to sink any RPG unless its gameplay is fantastic. Which, in FFXII, it is.

Worst: Oh dear god, FFX. I haven't played FFXIII, but X was a linear grind. The plot was hilarious, the characters (well, Wakka was okay) trite, and the battle system uninteresting.

Since people seem to be arguing about VII on the side, I will say that I found the dialogue and pretentious plot laughable (watch as a fanboy goes, "I FIND YOUR DIALOGUE AND PRETENTIOUS PLOT PRETENTIOUS"), but the Materia system was awesome and the characters themselves were a lot of fun to play as, even if their speeches and mopey whinging could be painful. It's a fantastic RPG. You never get bored, the battle system is simple but works well.

And to whoever-it-was that knocked IV, that game has its weaknesses. It's still the one one I've finished three times on three or for different systems.


keep in mind IV was one of the first real rpgs. they never had a choose your party option back then. it wasnt till 6 that appearedjsh020

RPGs back then DID allow you to choose your members, and contrary to your belief, it was not one of the 'first real RPGs'. It may be part of the most famous RPG series of all time, but certainly not particularly groundbreaking. The criminally forgotten Phantasy Star II predated FFIV by a few years, featured a better setting, and the ability to swap characters out in your party. For example, some could kill robots easily, and others were more effective against biomonsters. However, it also had a truncated translation (not exactly bad, just very...abbreviated) and literally 80% of the game is grinding to survive. Still totally worth checking out; it was the game that got me into RPGs. -shrug-

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#15 FernTheAlmighty
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Best: VI/X

Seriously, I don't know. I loved the story and gameplay of both.

Worst: II

No Storyline. Horrible Gameplay. Warrior Clone. And Guy. Dear lord, not Guy.

I suppose Mateus was cool, but only after playing Dissidia. Before that, he was just another stereotypical villain no one cared about.

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#16 aryoshi
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I love Final Fantasy VI. Amazing story, characters, design, and the best villian I've ever seen. :)

I suppose Mateus was cool, but only after playing Dissidia. Before that, he was just another stereotypical villain no one cared about.

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Actually, he came close to accomplishing what Kefka did. And you have to think, Mateus pretty much killed Satan himself and overthrew Hell just to make it back to our world, that doesn't happen very often.

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#17 zombieoverlord1
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I love Final Fantasy VI. Amazing story, characters, design, and the best villian I've ever seen. :)

[QUOTE="FernTheAlmighty"]

I suppose Mateus was cool, but only after playing Dissidia. Before that, he was just another stereotypical villain no one cared about.

aryoshi
Actually, he came close to accomplishing what Kefka did. And you have to think, Mateus pretty much killed Satan himself and overthrew Hell just to make it back to our world, that doesn't happen very often.

I only skimmed the responses but I think your answer is the best but thats because I'm a FFVI fanboy if it wasnt VI it'd be IV or XII lol