psone or psx???
i never knew exactly what was the differences but if someone could explain em to me
which play station is better?
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The second or third gen PSXs are better than the psone, but you might as well pick up a used ps2 as it has a much better a/v setup.
The PlayStation 2 is the best way to play the original PlayStation games in my opinion.
I don't know about the PlayStation 3 since I don't own one.
The PlayStation 2 is the best way to play the original PlayStation games in my opinion.
I don't know about the PlayStation 3 since I don't own one.
Panzer_Zwei
If you want the laser on your PS2 to wear out a lot faster. If you have the option to use the original PS and not wear out your PS2 by switching disc-types on it, then why not do it that way? Especially since PS2s are known for their lasers burning out.
In addition to that, there are a handful of games that aren't compatible on the PS2. You also don't get to use the GameShark on your PS2.
As for which one is better, I don't know. I've only ever owned a PSX, never a PSOne. But I guess that's a credit to the quality of the build on the PSX, since it's still perfectly operational 15 years later.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
The PlayStation 2 is the best way to play the original PlayStation games in my opinion.
I don't know about the PlayStation 3 since I don't own one.
Emerald_Warrior
If you want the laser on your PS2 to wear out a lot faster. If you have the option to use the original PS and not wear out your PS2 by switching disc-types on it, then why not do it that way? Especially since PS2s are known for their lasers burning out.
In addition to that, there are a handful of games that aren't compatible on the PS2. You also don't get to use the GameShark on your PS2.
As for which one is better, I don't know. I've only ever owned a PSX, never a PSOne. But I guess that's a credit to the quality of the build on the PSX, since it's still perfectly operational 15 years later.
So you'd rather wear down the laser of your original PS? Good luck finding a replacement when the music and FMVs in your games start skipping.The PS2 optical is inexpensive and at least for now still very easy to find.
Though I don't know why you think a DVD-cla$$ optical would wear down faster by reading mere CD-ROM games.
I like the smaller PSone. The original grey Playstation is good. But tiny whitePSone has a better quality lazer.
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
The PlayStation 2 is the best way to play the original PlayStation games in my opinion.
I don't know about the PlayStation 3 since I don't own one.
Panzer_Zwei
If you want the laser on your PS2 to wear out a lot faster. If you have the option to use the original PS and not wear out your PS2 by switching disc-types on it, then why not do it that way? Especially since PS2s are known for their lasers burning out.
In addition to that, there are a handful of games that aren't compatible on the PS2. You also don't get to use the GameShark on your PS2.
As for which one is better, I don't know. I've only ever owned a PSX, never a PSOne. But I guess that's a credit to the quality of the build on the PSX, since it's still perfectly operational 15 years later.
So you'd rather wear down the laser of your original PS? Good luck finding a replacement when the music and FMVs in your games start skipping.The PS2 optical is inexpensive and at least for now still very easy to find.
Though I don't know why you think a DVD-cla$$ optical would wear down faster by reading mere CD-ROM games.
The PS2 is known for it's lasers burning out quickly is the difference. And it wears a laser out a whole lot faster if you're switching between CD-based (PS1) & DVD-based (PS2) discs a lot. It has to read at different speeds and intesity for a CD-Rom and DVD is why, since you asked. If you use your PS2 for only PS2 games it's gonna last a lot longer.
The Playstation original doesn't have the poor lasers issue, and you don't have the issue of switching between different disc types.
This is a fairly well known problem with PS2s.
You mean like three obscure titles that no one will even likely find on eBay, right? ***edit: Your theory on the laser burning out quicker on a PS2 sounds more like your bias against playing PS1 games on a PS2 in general.In addition to that, there are a handful of games that aren't compatible on the PS2. You also don't get to use the GameShark on your PS2.
Emerald_Warrior
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]You mean like three obscure titles that no one will even likely find on eBay, right?In addition to that, there are a handful of games that aren't compatible on the PS2. You also don't get to use the GameShark on your PS2.
leapMC
The guy with a Mortal Kombat avatar is saying this? The rest of them are pretty forgettable, yeah. But Mortal Kombat Trilogy is one of them. And that is the BEST of the original style Mortal Kombat game. It has the biggest character selection, the most stages, and the best looking graphics.
You mean like three obscure titles that no one will even likely find on eBay, right?[QUOTE="leapMC"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
In addition to that, there are a handful of games that aren't compatible on the PS2. You also don't get to use the GameShark on your PS2.
Emerald_Warrior
The guy with a Mortal Kombat avatar is saying this? The rest of them are pretty forgettable, yeah. But Mortal Kombat Trilogy is one of them. And that is the BEST of the original style Mortal Kombat game. It has the biggest character selection, the most stages, and the best looking graphics.
Not a MK fan, just a Mileena fan. ***edit: Thanks for posting that. I'll skip over the title if I ever stumble across it.So you'd rather wear down the laser of your original PS? Good luck finding a replacement when the music and FMVs in your games start skipping.[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
If you want the laser on your PS2 to wear out a lot faster. If you have the option to use the original PS and not wear out your PS2 by switching disc-types on it, then why not do it that way? Especially since PS2s are known for their lasers burning out.
In addition to that, there are a handful of games that aren't compatible on the PS2. You also don't get to use the GameShark on your PS2.
As for which one is better, I don't know. I've only ever owned a PSX, never a PSOne. But I guess that's a credit to the quality of the build on the PSX, since it's still perfectly operational 15 years later.
Emerald_Warrior
The PS2 optical is inexpensive and at least for now still very easy to find.
Though I don't know why you think a DVD-cla$$ optical would wear down faster by reading mere CD-ROM games.
The PS2 is known for it's lasers burning out quickly is the difference. And it wears a laser out a whole lot faster if you're switching between CD-based (PS1) & DVD-based (PS2) discs a lot. It has to read at different speeds and intesity for a CD-Rom and DVD is why, since you asked. If you use your PS2 for only PS2 games it's gonna last a lot longer.
The Playstation original doesn't have the poor lasers issue, and you don't have the issue of switching between different disc types.
This is a fairly well known problem with PS2s.
Sorry, but that's not how the laser drive works. The speed and movement issue is a mechanism thing, and has nothing to do with the optical itself. And I still don't see how a lesser intensity could wear the laser. It is the continous high intense use of the laser that wears it down, with a lesser intensity it just uses less power.
Regardless, you can buy a brand new optical or a whole new laser drive for your PS2 and for all intents and purposes it would be no different than getting a new system in that aspect, but cheaper.
You can't get a new PS laser drive though. Even if we assume that the laser drive is better built, it still will wear down eventually. Then all you can do is either have the laser continously adjusted until it no longer works, or buy another used PS system, which most people would have no clue about the state of its laser drive.
Most people adjust their laser drives before selling their systems, so they appear to work fine for a while.
There's one extremely bad PS2 slim model though. I think it's worth mentioning.
I'm forgetting the serial model right now, but it is infamously well known since you can't even put a mod-chip on it.
Hilariously, a lot of people take out the model label so you don't know it's the bad one. Though ironcally, if you know about it the removed sticker is a dead giveaway.
What model #? ***edit: Sorry, partially asleep and didn't see that you forgot. xDThere's one extremely bad PS2 slim model though. I think it's worth mentioning.
I'm forgetting the serial model right now, but it is infamously well known since you can't even put a mod-chip on it.
Hilariously, a lot of people take out the model label so you don't know it's the bad one. Though ironcally, if you know about it the removed sticker is a dead giveaway.
Panzer_Zwei
well the PSOne has less issues in regards to the laser , as do the 9000 series Playstations and to an extent , the 7000 series.
the earlier ones are the really iffy ones which frankly didn't work well in 1996 let alone in 2011.
though as others have said, it might be better to get a slim PS2, which will give you compatibility with 99% of PS1 games out there.
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]So you'd rather wear down the laser of your original PS? Good luck finding a replacement when the music and FMVs in your games start skipping.
The PS2 optical is inexpensive and at least for now still very easy to find.
Though I don't know why you think a DVD-cla$$ optical would wear down faster by reading mere CD-ROM games.
Panzer_Zwei
The PS2 is known for it's lasers burning out quickly is the difference. And it wears a laser out a whole lot faster if you're switching between CD-based (PS1) & DVD-based (PS2) discs a lot. It has to read at different speeds and intesity for a CD-Rom and DVD is why, since you asked. If you use your PS2 for only PS2 games it's gonna last a lot longer.
The Playstation original doesn't have the poor lasers issue, and you don't have the issue of switching between different disc types.
This is a fairly well known problem with PS2s.
Sorry, but that's not how the laser drive works. The speed and movement issue is a mechanism thing, and has nothing to do with the optical itself. And I still don't see how a lesser intensity could wear the laser. It is the continous high intense use of the laser that wears it down, with a lesser intensity it just uses less power.
Regardless, you can buy a brand new optical or a whole new laser drive for your PS2 and for all intents and purposes it would be no different than getting a new system in that aspect, but cheaper.
You can't get a new PS laser drive though. Even if we assume that the laser drive is better built, it still will wear down eventually. Then all you can do is either have the laser continously adjusted until it no longer works, or buy another used PS system, which most people would have no clue about the state of its laser drive.
Most people adjust their laser drives before selling their systems, so they appear to work fine for a while.
Bring your argument to Sony, then. Because it's a well known problem. I'm not making this up or anything. The lasers go out, especially when using both disc types. Usually it's stop reading just PS2 games or just PS1 games, then eventually it burns out completely. I'm not gonna argue in circles with you about something that so well known, it's kind of ridiculous. Just Google it if you don't believe me. Hell, I'm sure there are members here that this has happened to. On the other hand, haven't heard of all that many PS1s this happens to.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
The PS2 is known for it's lasers burning out quickly is the difference. And it wears a laser out a whole lot faster if you're switching between CD-based (PS1) & DVD-based (PS2) discs a lot. It has to read at different speeds and intesity for a CD-Rom and DVD is why, since you asked. If you use your PS2 for only PS2 games it's gonna last a lot longer.
The Playstation original doesn't have the poor lasers issue, and you don't have the issue of switching between different disc types.
This is a fairly well known problem with PS2s.
Emerald_Warrior
Sorry, but that's not how the laser drive works. The speed and movement issue is a mechanism thing, and has nothing to do with the optical itself. And I still don't see how a lesser intensity could wear the laser. It is the continous high intense use of the laser that wears it down, with a lesser intensity it just uses less power.
Regardless, you can buy a brand new optical or a whole new laser drive for your PS2 and for all intents and purposes it would be no different than getting a new system in that aspect, but cheaper.
You can't get a new PS laser drive though. Even if we assume that the laser drive is better built, it still will wear down eventually. Then all you can do is either have the laser continously adjusted until it no longer works, or buy another used PS system, which most people would have no clue about the state of its laser drive.
Most people adjust their laser drives before selling their systems, so they appear to work fine for a while.
Bring your argument to Sony, then. Because it's a well known problem. I'm not making this up or anything. The lasers go out, especially when using both disc types. Usually it's stop reading just PS2 games or just PS1 games, then eventually it burns out completely. I'm not gonna argue in circles with you about something that so well known, it's kind of ridiculous. Just Google it if you don't believe me. Hell, I'm sure there are members here that this has happened to. On the other hand, haven't heard of all that many PS1s this happens to.
neither of you are 100% right or wrong.
the early PS1s were notorious for breaking down , the 1000 series was cheaply made and really should be avoided, with a gradual improvement.
at the same time, the PS2 isn't all that great either, the early models are prone to failure, and even the slim models are iffy
bottom line, youre just as likely to break , depending on the model you get, a 9000 series PS1 , or one of the later slimline PS2s would be fine.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
The PS2 is known for it's lasers burning out quickly is the difference. And it wears a laser out a whole lot faster if you're switching between CD-based (PS1) & DVD-based (PS2) discs a lot. It has to read at different speeds and intesity for a CD-Rom and DVD is why, since you asked. If you use your PS2 for only PS2 games it's gonna last a lot longer.
The Playstation original doesn't have the poor lasers issue, and you don't have the issue of switching between different disc types.
This is a fairly well known problem with PS2s.
Emerald_Warrior
Sorry, but that's not how the laser drive works. The speed and movement issue is a mechanism thing, and has nothing to do with the optical itself. And I still don't see how a lesser intensity could wear the laser. It is the continous high intense use of the laser that wears it down, with a lesser intensity it just uses less power.
Regardless, you can buy a brand new optical or a whole new laser drive for your PS2 and for all intents and purposes it would be no different than getting a new system in that aspect, but cheaper.
You can't get a new PS laser drive though. Even if we assume that the laser drive is better built, it still will wear down eventually. Then all you can do is either have the laser continously adjusted until it no longer works, or buy another used PS system, which most people would have no clue about the state of its laser drive.
Most people adjust their laser drives before selling their systems, so they appear to work fine for a while.
Bring your argument to Sony, then. Because it's a well known problem. I'm not making this up or anything. The lasers go out, especially when using both disc types. Usually it's stop reading just PS2 games or just PS1 games, then eventually it burns out completely. I'm not gonna argue in circles with you about something that so well known, it's kind of ridiculous. Just Google it if you don't believe me. Hell, I'm sure there are members here that this has happened to. On the other hand, haven't heard of all that many PS1s this happens to.
And yet since the PS2 came out I've only played original PS games on them. Hell, I've only owned a launch Japanese PS2. That's the only mean I have to play Japanese PS and PS2 games.
So what you're saying sounds BS to me.
I know people who repair consoles, I've seen a lot of busted systems, of all types. And the great majority of them show clear signs of mistreatment or neglect.
People treat their systens like crap, don't even clean them, then wonder why they no longer work.
[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]
Sorry, but that's not how the laser drive works. The speed and movement issue is a mechanism thing, and has nothing to do with the optical itself. And I still don't see how a lesser intensity could wear the laser. It is the continous high intense use of the laser that wears it down, with a lesser intensity it just uses less power.
Regardless, you can buy a brand new optical or a whole new laser drive for your PS2 and for all intents and purposes it would be no different than getting a new system in that aspect, but cheaper.
You can't get a new PS laser drive though. Even if we assume that the laser drive is better built, it still will wear down eventually. Then all you can do is either have the laser continously adjusted until it no longer works, or buy another used PS system, which most people would have no clue about the state of its laser drive.
Most people adjust their laser drives before selling their systems, so they appear to work fine for a while.
Panzer_Zwei
Bring your argument to Sony, then. Because it's a well known problem. I'm not making this up or anything. The lasers go out, especially when using both disc types. Usually it's stop reading just PS2 games or just PS1 games, then eventually it burns out completely. I'm not gonna argue in circles with you about something that so well known, it's kind of ridiculous. Just Google it if you don't believe me. Hell, I'm sure there are members here that this has happened to. On the other hand, haven't heard of all that many PS1s this happens to.
And yet since the PS2 came out I've only played original PS games on them. Hell, I've only owned a launch Japanese PS2. That's the only mean I have to play Japanese PS and PS2 games.
So what you're saying sounds BS to me.
I know people who repair consoles, I've seen a lot of busted systems, of all types. And the great majority of them show clear signs of mistreatment or neglect.
People treat their systens like crap, don't even clean them, then wonder why they no longer work.
That's not really true. Both Microsoft and Sony consoles (to a lesser extent, excluding the PS2) are prone to failure no matter what you do. I know someone who has gone through 4 PS2s (hasn't broken since he got a slim though) and I've had 3 360s, and 1 original Xboxs die on me. We both take good care of them, but it doesn't matter. There is no way to prevent a console with poor build quality from dying if you use it regularly. Especially if it's a laser issue.
Sure, everyone has stories. Mine is that I have a launch Japanese PS2 model (the one with the region free DVD bug that forced a recall) and still works well. It is, like I've said, my only mean of playing my original Japanese PS games.That's not really true. Both Microsoft and Sony consoles (to a lesser extent, excluding the PS2) are prone to failure no matter what you do. I know someone who has gone through 4 PS2s (hasn't broken since he got a slim though) and I've had 3 360s, and 1 original Xboxs die on me. We both take good care of them, but it doesn't matter. There is no way to prevent a console with poor build quality from dying if you use it regularly. Especially if it's a laser issue.
magnax1
I sold my original Playstations (NTSC-J and U) when the PS2 came out, and never looked back. If the PS2 were so prone to breaking down by playing original PS games, I think would've noticed by now.
Of course I know systems can have issues that go beyond how good or bad you treat them (and they also have at least a month of warranty). However, unless you give me an especific and valid technical reason as to why a PS2 laser would wear down faster by playing original Playstation CD-ROM games, I don't buy.
The consoles can have all sorts of problems. To me it looks like people just assume that is the reason.
And for the record, most busted systems I've seen (Including Xbox 360s) are full of dirt inside.
I can't believe people can't bother even to blow the back air vents from time to time.
And in the case of the Xbox 360 it's a lot better to have a faulty laser drive than all of those other overheating issues. The laser can be replaced, but the other issues you're basically screwed.
Was I the only one who thought the visuals in PS1 games went a bit funny on the PS2? I remember playing Final Fantasy VII and when on the world map your character, buggy and airship would have a grey transparent box around them. Metal Gear Solid had some odd graphical moments too.Raiko101Yeah, I've noticed that too. But at least the PS2 has an optional texture rendering to knock some of the grain off.
Thanks for the useful info, Darkman. I just recently picked up a PSX, and I didn't even check the model number when I bought it. I just looked at the back, and found out it is a 9000 series. I read up about it, and apparently that was the final PSX model they made and the most reliable. Good news!
I also recently picked up another PS2, which I didn't research the model number for before I bought it. I got the 7700 series PS2, a silver one to be exact. Modifications to the 7700 series include an integrated, unified EE+GS chip, a redesigned ASIC, a different laser lens, an updated BIOS, and updated drivers.
The model of PS2 they sell now new in stores is the 9000 series, which uses different parts to make the system lighter, along with a built in power supply rather than an external power brick, but it doesn't include any new hardware that increases performance and reliability that I know of.
I'm going to buy a new PS2 9000 series soon... I wanna get one and keep it boxed up.
The PSOne ( ie , the the slim PS1 ) were also very reliable, I still have one, and it does work , though I generally keep it as backup and I use a 9000 series PS1 ( because I want to play imports) the original PS1 models , the 1000s , had the disk drives made of plastic, hence overtime they would get weaker (not helped by the power supply heating everything up) and cause the laser lens to dislocate , hence why alot of them stopped reading discs unless you flipped them upside down (essentially gravity giving a temporary fix) though my brother actually got one of those and annoyingly enough , it wouldn't even work , it wouldn't read discs properly, and the AV connecton must have been broken since all the colours were funky. oh and that rumor about model 1000 PS1s (and PS1s in general) having some amazing sound quality is a myth , Ive tested a few PS1s and frankly none of them had that great of a quality, in fact, I found both my Saturn and Dreamcast had better sound quality, and the Saturn had better CD music controls too. ie, I think it was a myth started up by some audiophile.Thanks for the useful info, Darkman. I just recently picked up a PSX, and I didn't even check the model number when I bought it. I just looked at the back, and found out it is a 9000 series. I read up about it, and apparently that was the final PSX model they made and the most reliable. Good news!
I also recently picked up another PS2, which I didn't research the model number for before I bought it. I got the 7700 series PS2, a silver one to be exact. Modifications to the 7700 series include an integrated, unified EE+GS chip, a redesigned ASIC, a different laser lens, an updated BIOS, and updated drivers.
The model of PS2 they sell now new in stores is the 9000 series, which uses different parts to make the system lighter, along with a built in power supply rather than an external power brick, but it doesn't include any new hardware that increases performance and reliability that I know of.
I'm going to buy a new PS2 9000 series soon... I wanna get one and keep it boxed up.
arkephonic
The PSOne ( ie , the the slim PS1 ) were also very reliable, I still have one, and it does work , though I generally keep it as backup and I use a 9000 series PS1 ( because I want to play imports) the original PS1 models , the 1000s , had the disk drives made of plastic, hence overtime they would get weaker (not helped by the power supply heating everything up) and cause the laser lens to dislocate , hence why alot of them stopped reading discs unless you flipped them upside down (essentially gravity giving a temporary fix) though my brother actually got one of those and annoyingly enough , it wouldn't even work , it wouldn't read discs properly, and the AV connecton must have been broken since all the colours were funky. oh and that rumor about model 1000 PS1s (and PS1s in general) having some amazing sound quality is a myth , Ive tested a few PS1s and frankly none of them had that great of a quality, in fact, I found both my Saturn and Dreamcast had better sound quality, and the Saturn had better CD music controls too. ie, I think it was a myth started up by some audiophile.Darkman2007
This. I'd recommend avoiding ALL models before the SCPH-500x series as they had the old CD-ROM drives that warped under extended use.
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