Why Are Gamers So Easily Forgiving?

Throughout this gen Capcom has screwed us over more times than the prostitutes at the bunny ranch. Of course other companies like EA and Activision has done the same but when they announce a new sequel, gamers immediately forget about all the bad things that they did to us prior and flatout say things like "I love you Capcom, EA, or Activision!" 

Most of the talented developers that Capcom once had are all gone and most of what they got are a bunch of stooges that do what the suits tell them to do, and you got all the mediocre devs that Capcom keeps outsourcing their games to. The only good devs that Capcom outsourced one of their games to was Wayforward with DuckTales. But even when it's a mediocre developer, that doesn't stop gamers from thinking that the game is in deep sh**. . . . And there's the DLC that Capcom is so infamous for, they forget that too. 

Maybe it's fanboyism and low self-esteem, I mean I have enough pride to go and say that I rather have no Power Stone 3 than a terrible, bare-bone game with a bunch of DLC characters tied to it while others don't. 

So is the gaming society f***ed?

I think there are gamers that are a bit too nitpicky as well.

DmC, for example, is a pretty solid game. It's my second favorite Devil May Cry game, in fact, and the majority of people that trash it are the people that never played it. 

Don't get me wrong, Capcom (among other publishers) did some pretty terrible crap this generation but I'm not going to let those practices stop me from playing games that I think look genuinely interesting. I simply won't support the practices. 

Though I will freely admit I'll pretty much buy anything with the words "Resident Evil" in it.

I think there are gamers that are a bit too nitpicky as well.

DmC, for example, is a pretty solid game. It's my second favorite Devil May Cry game, in fact, and the majority of people that trash it are the people that never played it. 

Don't get me wrong, Capcom (among other publishers) did some pretty terrible crap this generation but I'm not going to let those practices stop me from playing games that I think look genuinely interesting. I simply won't support the practices. 

Though I will freely admit I'll pretty much buy anything with the words "Resident Evil" in it.

IndianaPwns39

Throughout this gen Capcom has screwed us over more times than the prostitutes at the bunny ranch. Of course other companies like EA and Activision has done the same but when they announce a new sequel, gamers immediately forget about all the bad things that they did to us prior and flatout say things like "I love you Capcom, EA, or Activision!" 

Most of the talented developers that Capcom once had are all gone and most of what they got are a bunch of stooges that do what the suits tell them to do, and you got all the mediocre devs that Capcom keeps outsourcing their games to. The only good devs that Capcom outsourced one of their games to was Wayforward with DuckTales. But even when it's a mediocre developer, that doesn't stop gamers from thinking that the game is in deep sh**. . . . And there's the DLC that Capcom is so infamous for, they forget that too. 

Maybe it's fanboyism and low self-esteem, I mean I have enough pride to go and say that I rather have no Power Stone 3 than a terrible, bare-bone game with a bunch of DLC characters tied to it while others don't. 

So is the gaming society f***ed?

Strider8009

I'm not particularly forgiving, but I think en masse gamers tend to have 1. short memories and 2. short attention spans. So whilst I have been boycotting Ubisoft for 3 years due to their Online Services Platform DRM, I think others forgot about it somewhat. Likewise with EA and the SimCity fiasco; It's very clear that well over a million people were happy enough to buy SimCity irrespective of how stripped-down and limited that version of the game was compared to old SimCity.

Kids get so excited about a new game release that they ignore the fact that the last 3 games were buggy and broken - and thoroughly un-enjoyable - at launch.  Their little skulls haven't fully hardened yet.

Throughout this gen Capcom has screwed us over more times than the prostitutes at the bunny ranch. Of course other companies like EA and Activision has done the same but when they announce a new sequel, gamers immediately forget about all the bad things that they did to us prior and flatout say things like "I love you Capcom, EA, or Activision!"

Most of the talented developers that Capcom once had are all gone and most of what they got are a bunch of stooges that do what the suits tell them to do, and you got all the mediocre devs that Capcom keeps outsourcing their games to. The only good devs that Capcom outsourced one of their games to was Wayforward with DuckTales. But even when it's a mediocre developer, that doesn't stop gamers from thinking that the game is in deep sh**. . . . And there's the DLC that Capcom is so infamous for, they forget that too.

Maybe it's fanboyism and low self-esteem, I mean I have enough pride to go and say that I rather have no Power Stone 3 than a terrible, bare-bone game with a bunch of DLC characters tied to it while others don't.

So is the gaming society f***ed?

Strider8009

'Someone showed fun looking gameplay, then fans of the original were cautiously optimistic about it despite the developers track record! What is the world coming to!' :lol:. Maybe you need to take up knitting, alt account person.

Last but not least, a game being 'in 'deep sh**' is a bad thing, as is a game being sh**, though a game being 'the sh**' is a good thing. I know its confusing.

Cause they gotta have their game fix, regardless of how much anti-consumer BS is attached to said game.

People should stick to their principles.

I for one refuse to buy a game that requires an internet connection (eg: Diablo 3 PC, or SimCity). Why? Because eventually the servers will get shut down, then you can no longer use what you payed money for. I also have a really hard time justifying paying for multiplayer ala XBL or the PSN come PS4. So I just bought this new shiny game and enjoyed it, but if I want to play with my friend online I have to pay even more money to be able to access the rest of the game? Screw that.

I'm not particularly forgiving, but I think en masse gamers tend to have 1. short memories and 2. short attention spans. So whilst I have been boycotting Ubisoft for 3 years due to their Online Services Platform DRM, I think others forgot about it somewhat. Likewise with EA and the SimCity fiasco; It's very clear that well over a million people were happy enough to buy SimCity irrespective of how stripped-down and limited that version of the game was compared to old SimCity.

gbrading

I'm not so sure about that. More likely than not many bought it without knowing what they were getting into. It was really Simcity Online, but EA knew that would cause people who didn't want to play online to ignore it, so they just positioned it as a real Simcity game. I'd say that it is an example of a company thinking in the short term. Gamer discontent with a game (especially a sequel) rarely harms the game itself, what it really impacts is the next sequel (the reviled DMC2 sold fine because DMC1 fans rushed out and bought it on day 1, it was the superb DMC3 that had problems selling).

Capcom has released some of the best games this generation, so making some DLC doesn't wash that all away. You are not entitled to the DLC, buy it or not.GodModeEnabled

Wow ! Okay uhm. . . . . The Majority of people who keep buying those games arent that attached to the company as much as we think they are. I think normal gamers buys what they want and move on, I doubt they login to the company's forum and say thank you or b!tch about it.Lulu_Lulu

Well lets take for core gaming community, for example gamespot users.

For years the majority of people on this forum have bitched about EA time and time again, voting them the worst game developer/publisher, hating on their games, saying they are boycotting EA and so on. But despite this going on for years as soon as E3 hits and battlefront 3 and mirrors edge 2 is announced suddenly the majority start praising EA, saying "TAKE MY MONEY NOW" and applauding a company they have hated literally for years in a matter of just a few minutes simply because they announce 2 new games.

I saw the same thing on reddit also. For years there was a constant stream of hateful memes, but soon as those games are announced I see a flood of love for EA memes.

I dont think its forgiving, I just think it is being a hypocrite.

I wasnt saying this about everyone now. Some never hated EA, some still are sticking to their guns, Im just saying the majority.

[QUOTE="Lulu_Lulu"]Wow ! Okay uhm. . . . . The Majority of people who keep buying those games arent that attached to the company as much as we think they are. I think normal gamers buys what they want and move on, I doubt they login to the company's forum and say thank you or b!tch about it.Gargus

Well lets take for core gaming community, for example gamespot users.

For years the majority of people on this forum have bitched about EA time and time again, voting them the worst game developer/publisher, hating on their games, saying they are boycotting EA and so on. But despite this going on for years as soon as E3 hits and battlefront 3 and mirrors edge 2 is announced suddenly the majority start praising EA, saying "TAKE MY MONEY NOW" and applauding a company they have hated literally for years in a matter of just a few minutes simply because they announce 2 new games.

I saw the same thing on reddit also. For years there was a constant stream of hateful memes, but soon as those games are announced I see a flood of love for EA memes.

I dont think its forgiving, I just think it is being a hypocrite.

I wasnt saying this about everyone now. Some never hated EA, some still are sticking to their guns, Im just saying the majority.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Capcom has released some of the best games this generation, so making some DLC doesn't wash that all away. You are not entitled to the DLC, buy it or not.El_Zo1212o

oh, almost forgot. . . . Street Fighter X Tekken was Awesome though ! I should get around to playing Soul Calibur games aswell. I think the outsourced games were also good, Asura's Wrath, DmC, Dark Void, and hopefully Lost Planet 3. . . . . . You know what, you can throw in Remember Me in that list aswell.

I still don't buy EA or Ubisoft titles. I bent with Capcom for E.X. Troopers though, but that's because it was so good I couldn't pass it up.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Capcom has released some of the best games this generation, so making some DLC doesn't wash that all away. You are not entitled to the DLC, buy it or not.El_Zo1212o

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Capcom has released some of the best games this generation, so making some DLC doesn't wash that all away. You are not entitled to the DLC, buy it or not.GodModeEnabled

Dragon's Dogma. The best Capcom game I've played in a long time.

Because with a game you can make terrible business practices and still put out a quality product.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] You're gonna have to give me some examples before I buy that one.HipHopBeats

Dragon's Dogma. The best Capcom game I've played in a long time.

Your sig is nuts.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] You're gonna have to give me some examples before I buy that one.HipHopBeats

Dragon's Dogma. The best Capcom game I've played in a long time.

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Capcom has released some of the best games this generation, so making some DLC doesn't wash that all away. You are not entitled to the DLC, buy it or not.Lulu_Lulu

oh, almost forgot. . . . Street Fighter X Tekken was Awesome though ! I should get around to playing Soul Calibur games aswell. I think the outsourced games were also good, Asura's Wrath, DmC, Dark Void, and hopefully Lost Planet 3. . . . . . You know what, you can throw in Remember Me in that list aswell.

[QUOTE="Lulu_Lulu"][QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] You're gonna have to give me some examples before I buy that one.El_Zo1212o

oh, almost forgot. . . . Street Fighter X Tekken was Awesome though ! I should get around to playing Soul Calibur games aswell. I think the outsourced games were also good, Asura's Wrath, DmC, Dark Void, and hopefully Lost Planet 3. . . . . . You know what, you can throw in Remember Me in that list aswell.

You forgot to address DMC4, which is one of my biggest disappointments of this generation. Too easy, uninspired, cut-and-paste mediocrity. 

I don't know too many people who are loyal to any specific company. If a game's good, people will buy it regardless of who develops/publishes it.

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="Lulu_Lulu"] Well theres the early ones, like DMC 4, RE 5 and SF IV oh and SC 4 aswell. But lately it seems like only DmC is the only that didn't deserve all the hate despite Capcom only published the game, (I didn't bother including the later versions of Street Fighter)

oh, almost forgot. . . . Street Fighter X Tekken was Awesome though ! I should get around to playing Soul Calibur games aswell. I think the outsourced games were also good, Asura's Wrath, DmC, Dark Void, and hopefully Lost Planet 3. . . . . . You know what, you can throw in Remember Me in that list aswell.

ReddestSkies

You forgot to address DMC4, which is one of my biggest disappointments of this generation. Too easy, uninspired, cut-and-paste mediocrity. 

Throughout this gen Capcom has screwed us over more times than the prostitutes at the bunny ranch. Of course other companies like EA and Activision has done the same but when they announce a new sequel, gamers immediately forget about all the bad things that they did to us prior and flatout say things like "I love you Capcom, EA, or Activision!" 

Most of the talented developers that Capcom once had are all gone and most of what they got are a bunch of stooges that do what the suits tell them to do, and you got all the mediocre devs that Capcom keeps outsourcing their games to. The only good devs that Capcom outsourced one of their games to was Wayforward with DuckTales. But even when it's a mediocre developer, that doesn't stop gamers from thinking that the game is in deep sh**. . . . And there's the DLC that Capcom is so infamous for, they forget that too. 

Maybe it's fanboyism and low self-esteem, I mean I have enough pride to go and say that I rather have no Power Stone 3 than a terrible, bare-bone game with a bunch of DLC characters tied to it while others don't. 

So is the gaming society f***ed?

Strider8009

[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

I think there are gamers that are a bit too nitpicky as well.

DmC, for example, is a pretty solid game. It's my second favorite Devil May Cry game, in fact, and the majority of people that trash it are the people that never played it. 

Don't get me wrong, Capcom (among other publishers) did some pretty terrible crap this generation but I'm not going to let those practices stop me from playing games that I think look genuinely interesting. I simply won't support the practices. 

Though I will freely admit I'll pretty much buy anything with the words "Resident Evil" in it.

Lulu_Lulu

It just became $20? Where the hell do you live :P

Here in the States it's about $10 new and $4 for a used copy.

Anyway, ORC wasn't too great and I think playing it is a waste of time. 

[QUOTE="Lulu_Lulu"][QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

I think there are gamers that are a bit too nitpicky as well.

DmC, for example, is a pretty solid game. It's my second favorite Devil May Cry game, in fact, and the majority of people that trash it are the people that never played it. 

Don't get me wrong, Capcom (among other publishers) did some pretty terrible crap this generation but I'm not going to let those practices stop me from playing games that I think look genuinely interesting. I simply won't support the practices. 

Though I will freely admit I'll pretty much buy anything with the words "Resident Evil" in it.

IndianaPwns39

It just became $20? Where the hell do you live :P

Here in the States it's about $10 new and $4 for a used copy.

Anyway, ORC wasn't too great and I think playing it is a waste of time. 

oh, almost forgot. . . . Street Fighter X Tekken was Awesome though ! I should get around to playing Soul Calibur games aswell. I think the outsourced games were also good, Asura's Wrath, DmC, Dark Void, and hopefully Lost Planet 3. . . . . . You know what, you can throw in Remember Me in that list aswell.

Anyway what about the Lost In Nightmares DLC for RE5, that must've atleast net some points to trying to blend Co-op and Survival Horror, I mean. . . . . It certainly proves its possible. . . . . right? As for the rest of the game itself I'd say it was an excellent game and an improvement over RE4 even without factoring Shinji Mikami not making RE5. Meaning RE6 Has no excuse, they did prove that they could manage without him after all.

as for Lost Planet I loved the 2nd one, they just gotta give squad commands (like in President Evil 5 & 6) for solitary playthroughs. And for the one coming later this year, I have no Idea what to expect (since I never played the 1st), word is its gona be more story driven than 2 was, alot more from the sound of it.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] You're gonna have to give me some examples before I buy that one.HipHopBeats

Dragon's Dogma. The best Capcom game I've played in a long time.

I think gaming can be viewed very much in the same way as addiction can.  As long as people get their fix, they'll go to the ends of the Earth and will tolerate hell to achieve it.

1. most gamers don't know they are getting screwed
2. most gamers don't know about all of these shady things because they don't care to know
3. most gamers buy used games
4. most gamers don't buy online passess unless it says cod or bf
5. most gamers just love games....

RE ORC just became available for $20 and I was seriously contemplating getting it, despite the reviews reccomending I turn away. If the price goes down again then I'm screwed.Lulu_Lulu

I'm a lifelong fan of RE and I'm telling you now, DON'T BUY THAT PIECE OF SHIT GAME.

I nabbed it dirt cheap and still felt screwed.

I've never really felt screwed over by Capcom. Well, OK, their practices with DLC for fighting games is ridiculous, but I am not even a huge fan of their fighting games. I've boughten some, but I didn't bother with much of their DLC.

But I enjoyed a lot of their games this gen. And I have seen absolutely nothing wrong with their use of DLC, aside from fighting games. Though I admit, I was a little upset with what they did with the new DmC game. But I still plan to try it out. It still seems like it could be a good game.

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

[QUOTE="Lulu_Lulu"] RE ORC just became available for $20 and I was seriously contemplating getting it, despite the reviews reccomending I turn away. If the price goes down again then I'm screwed.dvader654

I'm a lifelong fan of RE and I'm telling you now, DON'T BUY THAT PIECE OF SHIT GAME.

I nabbed it dirt cheap and still felt screwed.

Calling ORC an abomination might be an insult to abominations.

I don't know too many people who are loyal to any specific company. If a game's good, people will buy it regardless of who develops/publishes it.

Blueresident87

oh, almost forgot. . . . Street Fighter X Tekken was Awesome though ! I should get around to playing Soul Calibur games aswell. I think the outsourced games were also good, Asura's Wrath, DmC, Dark Void, and hopefully Lost Planet 3. . . . . . You know what, you can throw in Remember Me in that list aswell.

Anyway what about the Lost In Nightmares DLC for RE5, that must've atleast net some points to trying to blend Co-op and Survival Horror, I mean. . . . . It certainly proves its possible. . . . . right? As for the rest of the game itself I'd say it was an excellent game and an improvement over RE4 even without factoring Shinji Mikami not making RE5. Meaning RE6 Has no excuse, they did prove that they could manage without him after all.

as for Lost Planet I loved the 2nd one, they just gotta give squad commands (like in President Evil 5 & 6) for solitary playthroughs. And for the one coming later this year, I have no Idea what to expect (since I never played the 1st), word is its gona be more story driven than 2 was, alot more from the sound of it.

Anyway what about the Lost In Nightmares DLC for RE5, that must've atleast net some points to trying to blend Co-op and Survival Horror, I mean. . . . . It certainly proves its possible. . . . . right? As for the rest of the game itself I'd say it was an excellent game and an improvement over RE4 even without factoring Shinji Mikami not making RE5. Meaning RE6 Has no excuse, they did prove that they could manage without him after all.

as for Lost Planet I loved the 2nd one, they just gotta give squad commands (like in President Evil 5 & 6) for solitary playthroughs. And for the one coming later this year, I have no Idea what to expect (since I never played the 1st), word is its gona be more story driven than 2 was, alot more from the sound of it.

[QUOTE="dvader654"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

I'm a lifelong fan of RE and I'm telling you now, DON'T BUY THAT PIECE OF SHIT GAME.

I nabbed it dirt cheap and still felt screwed.

 

 

IndianaPwns39

Calling ORC an abomination might be an insult to abominations.

lol, Does it have a Mercenaries Mode ?

[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"] Resident Evil 5, Street fighter 4.Strider8009

Dragon's Dogma. The best Capcom game I've played in a long time.

Yup pretty much. It would have been very easy to have two versions of Dark Arisen: $20 DLC version for those that bought the original that is just the expansion, and $40 bundle with game + DLC to garner interest from people that have not bought the game.

But here we are, Capcom giving everyone that bought DD the middle finger since they expect us to buy the game again just to get the extra stuff.

Im surprised how people stay customers to companies that do this. I sure as hell dont feel like buying Capcom games anymore.

[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="dvader654"] Same here. That game is an abomination.Lulu_Lulu

Calling ORC an abomination might be an insult to abominations.

lol, Does it have a Mercenaries Mode ?

No, and it doesn't have splitscreen either.

[QUOTE="Lulu_Lulu"][QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

Calling ORC an abomination might be an insult to abominations.

IndianaPwns39

lol, Does it have a Mercenaries Mode ?

No, and it doesn't have splitscreen either.