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#1 Ilovegames1992
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Lets just say for the sake of argument, that gaming as a whole has become too casual and action orientated. With many franchises, if not all, succumbing to this trend.

Whether or not this is true, my query is why is one game franchise the cause of all this to many gamers?

Is it because it's the biggest franchise out there? Or is it a game that's easy to scapegoat?

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It sells 21+ million copies each year, despite the lack of innovation and people can't accept the fact that this happens cause it's a good game and not because of satan
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It sells 21+ million copies each year, despite the lack of innovation and people can't accept the fact that this happens cause it's a good game and not because of satanBlack_Knight_00

Ahh but there were/are many generic first person shooters before, during, and probably after this franchise. So i'm just confused as to why it's seen as the cause of the current depression in gaming.

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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]It sells 21+ million copies each year, despite the lack of innovation and people can't accept the fact that this happens cause it's a good game and not because of satanIlovegames1992

Ahh but there were/are many generic first person shooters before, during, and probably after this franchise. So i'm just confused as to why it's seen as the cause of the current depression in gaming.

It's because it's so popular. Also, it's very, very immediate and accessible, which is a good thing, but it also means all the kids and casuals lacking the patiente to face the steeper learning curve of other series flock to it like moths to a flame.

Let's not forget the jealousy factor either. People hate it because it sells more than what they like

Lastly, its mutiplayer is crammed with cheap exploits, which are very annoying.

I know all this probably doesn't directly answer your question, but I think it sums ups nicely why people hate it so much.

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CoD is simple and plays causaly and sells well and everyone mimics it and wants that cut

btw welcome back tc i havent seen you in a while

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ever since MW1 was the 'it' game, kids goes out buying them thus recommend to their friends and the cycle continues. lets hope that its going to lose its steam after CoD: BO2

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If your question is why people blame CoD for the way games are designed it's probably becuase other studios/publishers know how well CoD sells and try to emulate the "CoD" feel in their games. This isn't anything special to the gaming market as it happens with a lot of other things aswell.

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They blame CoD not because of the game itself or the quality of its titles (which I think is rather high for the most part), but because of its influence on other titles can be negative.

CoD4 was a huge hit and a breath of fresh air, a fantastic game with a fantastic campaign and multiplayer that hit all its strides and was polished to perfect, beating out other heavy hitters like Halo and Rainbow Six. Of course this meant everyone had to start taking a few pages from the CoD textbook, more then usual (because with high budgets today, they play it safe much more), so thus instead of blaming individual developers and publishers for copying Call of Duty and not succeeding, they blame CoD for being successful and being an influence that is considered negative.

That's what I think at least.

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I blame Call of Duty AND Halo.

I like Halo 1, I have it for PC.

But I hate what it started.

It's because of Halo 1 and 2 on the original Xbox that the console shooter became so popular.

Ever since Halo on the Xbox, more and more developers have been trying to make the "Halo killer" for consoles.

Killzone 1 for the PS2 was advertised as "the Halo killer," even though it wasn't the Halo killer.

Then Call of Duty 4 was released for the PS3 and 360. I don't think it was intended to be a Halo killer, but it's one hell of a competitor.

And then every developer started their attempts to make the "Call of Duty killer."

After CoD 4, the casual gamers and dude-bro gamers started their take over.

So I feel as though Halo and Call of Duty are both equally at fault for the downfall of the gaming industry.

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#10 Delkura
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Other games take skill and actual learning. COD doesn't.

It's as simple as that.

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They blame CoD not because of the game itself or the quality of its titles (which I think is rather high for the most part), but because of its influence on other titles can be negative.

CoD4 was a huge hit and a breath of fresh air, a fantastic game with a fantastic campaign and multiplayer that hit all its strides and was polished to perfect, beating out other heavy hitters like Halo and Rainbow Six. Of course this meant everyone had to start taking a few pages from the CoD textbook, more then usual (because with high budgets today, they play it safe much more), so thus instead of blaming individual developers and publishers for copying Call of Duty and not succeeding, they blame CoD for being successful and being an influence that is considered negative.

That's what I think at least.

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Wow, very well put.
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]It sells 21+ million copies each year, despite the lack of innovation and people can't accept the fact that this happens cause it's a good game and not because of satanBlack_Knight_00

Ahh but there were/are many generic first person shooters before, during, and probably after this franchise. So i'm just confused as to why it's seen as the cause of the current depression in gaming.

It's because it's so popular. Also, it's very, very immediate and accessible, which is a good thing, but it also means all the kids and casuals lacking the patiente to face the steeper learning curve of other series flock to it like moths to a flame.

Let's not forget the jealousy factor either. People hate it because it sells more than what they like

Lastly, its mutiplayer is crammed with cheap exploits, which are very annoying.

I know all this probably doesn't directly answer your question, but I think it sums ups nicely why people hate it so much.

That's the best point you made. It is popular and accessible, those are really the biggest reasons why it sells so much. People hate what is popular because it is popular...it's a weird dynamic but it exists in all forms of media. That popularity and the craze over it will also likely run it into the ground one day.

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#13 Nicko2580
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Lets just say for the sake of argument, that gaming as a whole has become too casual and action orientated. With many franchises, if not all, succumbing to this trend.

Whether or not this is true, my query is why is one game franchise the cause of all this to many gamers?

Is it because it's the biggest franchise out there? Or is it a game that's easy to scapegoat?

Ilovegames1992

I don't hate COD. Far from it. I bought every one of them up to MW2.

But now I just feel like they're trying to sell me the same game every year and I'm not interested anymore. Until something drastic changes with the series (which it won't because it still sells millions) I won't be wasting any time on it.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare was a fresh, exciting new turn for the series and was by far my most played out of all of them. Black-Ops tried, but didn't quite make it. They need something new and fresh again to get old dogs like me back on the front line.

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I despise Call of Duty. Bordering on hate, and not because "Ima hater that's gonna hate" or I'm 12 and hate things that are popular. :roll: No. CoD's influence is literally destroying this hobby, and I have every Goddamn right to feel angry about it. People say, "blame the copycats, not CoD". I do hold them accountable but CoD holds responsibility for this as well. If it didn't exist and wasn't so successful many companies wouldn't be stripping down their games to mindless generic action slaughterfests trying to replicate its success. No one can claim it's not to blame to ANY extent. CoD is by far the worst thing that has happened to gaming, ever, and I cannot wait for its demise....IF it ever happens.

Resident Evil. Splinter Cell. Hitman. Dead Space. Mass Effect. Help me out, what else am I missing? These once brilliant franchises are now nothing more than thoughtless shooting. I mean, WHAT THE F*CK????? I am very upset, because it seems EVERY once great game franchise is going this route. And it seems everyday another one jumps on the CoD bandwagon. And there are barely any new ones replacing them which makes it all the worse. What are these companies thinking??? For f*ck's sake!! There is really nothing out there. I'm hanging onto this hobby by a thread. The only thing that's keeping my interest alive stems from indie developers and arcade/PSN games (Journey was a frikken' miracle in this "creative medium"), and RARELY great console games from time to time, such as Deus Ex and Batman. Y'know, games where I am encouraged to THINK.

Not only as gamers do we have to put up with DRM, day one (and on disk) DLC and all the other bullsh!t out there to try to maximize profits by publisher's before we ever begin to game, but when we do, what do we get? Games that appeal and are designed for the lowest common denominator. Aka, Joe Blow who comes home from a long day at work, who holds NO interest nor could give a f*ck about gaming except to power on his console to blow off the day's steam by holding down the right trigger while staring blankly ahead as his brain sits idle.

Yea. Why don't we all just turn all movies into Arnold action flicks? That's what I want. I think I'll go watch Idiocracy, sadly that movie seems to be a fairly accurate representation of where gaming is headed, and I'm not joking when I say this.

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I despise Call of Duty. Bordering on hate, and not because "Ima hater that's gonna hate" or I'm 12 and hate things that are popular. :roll: No. CoD's influence is literally destroying this hobby, and I have every Goddamn right to feel angry about it. People say, "blame the copycats, not CoD". I do hold them accountable but CoD holds responsibility for this as well. If it didn't exist and wasn't so successful many companies wouldn't be stripping down their games to mindless generic action slaughterfests trying to replicate its success. No one can claim it's not to blame to ANY extent. CoD is by far the worst thing that has happened to gaming, ever, and I cannot wait for its demise....IF it ever happens.

Resident Evil. Splinter Cell. Hitman. Dead Space. Mass Effect. Help me out, what else am I missing? These once brilliant franchises are now nothing more than thoughtless shooting. I mean, WHAT THE F*CK????? I am very upset, because it seems EVERY once great game franchise is going this route. And it seems everyday another one jumps on the CoD bandwagon. And there are barely any new ones replacing them which makes it all the worse. What are these companies thinking??? For f*ck's sake!! There is really nothing out there. I'm hanging onto this hobby by a thread. The only thing that's keeping my interest alive stems from indie developers and arcade/PSN games (Journey was a frikken' miracle in this "creative medium"), and RARELY great console games from time to time, such as Deus Ex and Batman. Y'know, games where I am encouraged to THINK.

Not only as gamers do we have to put up with DRM, day one (and on disk) DLC and all the other bullsh!t out there to try to maximize profits by publisher's before we ever begin to game, but when we do, what do we get? Games that appeal and are designed for the lowest common denominator. Aka, Joe Blow who comes home from a long day at work, who holds NO interest nor could give a f*ck about gaming except to power on his console to blow off the day's steam by holding down the right trigger while staring blankly ahead as his brain sits idle.

Yea. Why don't we all just turn all movies into Arnold action flicks? That's what I want. I think I'll go watch Idiocracy, sadly that movie seems to be a fairly accurate representation of where gaming is headed, and I'm not joking when I say this.

MirkoS77

I respectfully disagree.

While games are moving towards a more casual audience I don't think it's fair to say that they're all ripping off COD. Mass Effect? Come on now.

There are plenty of good, fresh, innovative games out at the moment and if you can't find them then I don't think that you're looking hard enough.

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I don't hate COD, but I do hate the hype. It's just annoying seeing COD everywhere. I understand why there's constant advertising, but it seemed like as soon as MW3 came out BO2 was announced. It's just too much.

The same happened to me with Assassin's Creed. I didn't bother finishing Brotherhood and never played Revelations. At least that gave me a year or so to forget about AC so now with AC3 not only does it look like a nice change of atmosphere, but also doesn't feel like I just played an AC game right before getting this one.

Though, I have to hand it to COD for one thing, and that's having local MP (both competitive and co-op), which is lacking in far too many games. But other than that I'm just tired of the series.

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#17 MirkoS77
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[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

I despise Call of Duty. Bordering on hate, and not because "Ima hater that's gonna hate" or I'm 12 and hate things that are popular. :roll: No. CoD's influence is literally destroying this hobby, and I have every Goddamn right to feel angry about it. People say, "blame the copycats, not CoD". I do hold them accountable but CoD holds responsibility for this as well. If it didn't exist and wasn't so successful many companies wouldn't be stripping down their games to mindless generic action slaughterfests trying to replicate its success. No one can claim it's not to blame to ANY extent. CoD is by far the worst thing that has happened to gaming, ever, and I cannot wait for its demise....IF it ever happens.

Resident Evil. Splinter Cell. Hitman. Dead Space. Mass Effect. Help me out, what else am I missing? These once brilliant franchises are now nothing more than thoughtless shooting. I mean, WHAT THE F*CK????? I am very upset, because it seems EVERY once great game franchise is going this route. And it seems everyday another one jumps on the CoD bandwagon. And there are barely any new ones replacing them which makes it all the worse. What are these companies thinking??? For f*ck's sake!! There is really nothing out there. I'm hanging onto this hobby by a thread. The only thing that's keeping my interest alive stems from indie developers and arcade/PSN games (Journey was a frikken' miracle in this "creative medium"), and RARELY great console games from time to time, such as Deus Ex and Batman. Y'know, games where I am encouraged to THINK.

Not only as gamers do we have to put up with DRM, day one (and on disk) DLC and all the other bullsh!t out there to try to maximize profits by publisher's before we ever begin to game, but when we do, what do we get? Games that appeal and are designed for the lowest common denominator. Aka, Joe Blow who comes home from a long day at work, who holds NO interest nor could give a f*ck about gaming except to power on his console to blow off the day's steam by holding down the right trigger while staring blankly ahead as his brain sits idle.

Yea. Why don't we all just turn all movies into Arnold action flicks? That's what I want. I think I'll go watch Idiocracy, sadly that movie seems to be a fairly accurate representation of where gaming is headed, and I'm not joking when I say this.

Nicko2580

I respectfully disagree.

While games are moving towards a more casual audience I don't think it's fair to say that they're all ripping off COD. Mass Effect? Come on now.

There are plenty of good, fresh, innovative games out at the moment and if you can't find them then I don't think that you're looking hard enough.

I am looking. Please direct me to a good stealth game like SC Chaos Theory was. And Mass Effect since number 2 has been headed in a very much more action oriented direction. Here you go...

http://gamingbolt.com/mass-effect-3-inspired-by-halo-gears-of-war-call-of-duty-assassins-creed-and-others-bioware

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[QUOTE="Nicko2580"]

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

I despise Call of Duty. Bordering on hate, and not because "Ima hater that's gonna hate" or I'm 12 and hate things that are popular. :roll: No. CoD's influence is literally destroying this hobby, and I have every Goddamn right to feel angry about it. People say, "blame the copycats, not CoD". I do hold them accountable but CoD holds responsibility for this as well. If it didn't exist and wasn't so successful many companies wouldn't be stripping down their games to mindless generic action slaughterfests trying to replicate its success. No one can claim it's not to blame to ANY extent. CoD is by far the worst thing that has happened to gaming, ever, and I cannot wait for its demise....IF it ever happens.

Resident Evil. Splinter Cell. Hitman. Dead Space. Mass Effect. Help me out, what else am I missing? These once brilliant franchises are now nothing more than thoughtless shooting. I mean, WHAT THE F*CK????? I am very upset, because it seems EVERY once great game franchise is going this route. And it seems everyday another one jumps on the CoD bandwagon. And there are barely any new ones replacing them which makes it all the worse. What are these companies thinking??? For f*ck's sake!! There is really nothing out there. I'm hanging onto this hobby by a thread. The only thing that's keeping my interest alive stems from indie developers and arcade/PSN games (Journey was a frikken' miracle in this "creative medium"), and RARELY great console games from time to time, such as Deus Ex and Batman. Y'know, games where I am encouraged to THINK.

Not only as gamers do we have to put up with DRM, day one (and on disk) DLC and all the other bullsh!t out there to try to maximize profits by publisher's before we ever begin to game, but when we do, what do we get? Games that appeal and are designed for the lowest common denominator. Aka, Joe Blow who comes home from a long day at work, who holds NO interest nor could give a f*ck about gaming except to power on his console to blow off the day's steam by holding down the right trigger while staring blankly ahead as his brain sits idle.

Yea. Why don't we all just turn all movies into Arnold action flicks? That's what I want. I think I'll go watch Idiocracy, sadly that movie seems to be a fairly accurate representation of where gaming is headed, and I'm not joking when I say this.

MirkoS77

I respectfully disagree.

While games are moving towards a more casual audience I don't think it's fair to say that they're all ripping off COD. Mass Effect? Come on now.

There are plenty of good, fresh, innovative games out at the moment and if you can't find them then I don't think that you're looking hard enough.

I am looking. Please direct me to a good stealth game like SC Chaos Theory was. And Mass Effect since number 2 has been headed in a very much more action oriented direction. Here you go...

http://gamingbolt.com/mass-effect-3-inspired-by-halo-gears-of-war-call-of-duty-assassins-creed-and-others-bioware

Well you got me on stealth games, because I don't really play many of them. Since Thief and Tenchu I've never really found a stealth game I liked, but then again stealth isn't really my forte lol.

But I do think a comparison between COD and ME is horrible, even if BioWare mentioned it in the LONG list of games they used for inspiration. They don't even come close to being comparable and I don't think you can get away with saying they 'ripped off' COD.

Same with Dead Space and Resident Evil. If anything they're leaning more towards Gears of War than COD. Not happy with the way RE has headed, but then again I haven't played an RE game since RE3.

COD is not to blame for the way games are headed. What is to blame is the shift away from us hardcore gamers as gaming moves more and more into regular peoples lives. Gamers complained for 20 years that their medium deserved as much attention as any other and now that we're getting it, we whinge because games are changing to suit the new market.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Fact is it's a business and like it or not publishers are allowed to make money too. Hardcore gamers are not their primary money base anymore, casual gamers are. That's why you see companies like Zynga rocketing up the richest companies charts.

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Well you got me on stealth games, because I don't really play many of them. Since Thief and Tenchu I've never really found a stealth game I liked, but then again stealth isn't really my forte lol.

But I do think a comparison between COD and ME is horrible, even if BioWare mentioned it in the LONG list of games they used for inspiration. They don't even come close to being comparable and I don't think you can get away with saying they 'ripped off' COD.

Same with Dead Space and Resident Evil. If anything they're leaning more towards Gears of War than COD. Not happy with the way RE has headed, but then again I haven't played an RE game since RE3.

COD is not to blame for the way games are headed. What is to blame is the shift away from us hardcore gamers as gaming moves more and more into regular peoples lives. Gamers complained for 20 years that their medium deserved as much attention as any other and now that we're getting it, we whinge because games are changing to suit the new market.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Fact is it's a business and like it or not publishers are allowed to make money too. Hardcore gamers are not their primary money base anymore, casual gamers are. That's why you see companies like Zynga rocketing up the richest companies charts.

Nicko2580

I'm not saying that all of the games I listed in my original post are carbon copies of CoD, but they are far cries from what they once were and CoD's (and Gears of War, etc.) influence is readily apparent in many aspects. Both Capcom and Bioware came out and said CoD was inspiration for where they took their franchises. The only reason they keep it TPS is because of their histories but make no mistake, CoD is the driving force behind it. It can very much be blamed for what's going on, so can GeoW but this is a thread about CoD which is why I'm according it the majority of my animosity.

And I don't buy the "games are moving away from the hardcore audience and becoming more mainstream" argument. Look at movies. They are entirely mainstream, yet there's a huge variety in genres. Games are becoming all about action, and isn't it true that it's now become a bigger industry than movies (thought I heard that somewhere)? So why is it that the movie industry holds so much variety and games are recycling the same formula over and over? Is it piracy (movies aren't on the shelf on release and games are)? Are gamers really such a dense demographic that publishers make every game fit for the LCD? What is it? Would you be happy with the movie industry if it was in the state that the gaming industry currently is in? As I love movies so much, I'd be broken and it'd be an insult to movies which have so much potential. So do games, and so much of that potential is ignored.

Gaming is STAGNANT beyond belief. It's boring and the only reason I'm keeping tabs on it are because there still are 2-3 games that come out a year that are worth the attention, if that. As long as there's games like Batman I'll always game. But from what I've seen in the last few years, if what's happened in the past continues into the future, gaming overall is going downhill rapidly and I'll be paying less and less mind to it.

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[QUOTE="Nicko2580"]

Well you got me on stealth games, because I don't really play many of them. Since Thief and Tenchu I've never really found a stealth game I liked, but then again stealth isn't really my forte lol.

But I do think a comparison between COD and ME is horrible, even if BioWare mentioned it in the LONG list of games they used for inspiration. They don't even come close to being comparable and I don't think you can get away with saying they 'ripped off' COD.

Same with Dead Space and Resident Evil. If anything they're leaning more towards Gears of War than COD. Not happy with the way RE has headed, but then again I haven't played an RE game since RE3.

COD is not to blame for the way games are headed. What is to blame is the shift away from us hardcore gamers as gaming moves more and more into regular peoples lives. Gamers complained for 20 years that their medium deserved as much attention as any other and now that we're getting it, we whinge because games are changing to suit the new market.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Fact is it's a business and like it or not publishers are allowed to make money too. Hardcore gamers are not their primary money base anymore, casual gamers are. That's why you see companies like Zynga rocketing up the richest companies charts.

MirkoS77

I'm not saying that all of the games I listed in my original post are carbon copies of CoD, but they are far cries from what they once were and CoD's (and Gears of War, etc.) influence is readily apparent in many aspects. Both Capcom and Bioware came out and said CoD was inspiration for where they took their franchises. The only reason they keep it TPS is because of their histories but make no mistake, CoD is the driving force behind it. It can very much be blamed for what's going on, so can GeoW but this is a thread about CoD which is why I'm according it the majority of my animosity.

And I don't buy the "games are moving away from the hardcore audience and becoming more mainstream" argument. Look at movies. They are entirely mainstream, yet there's a huge variety in genres. Games are becoming all about action, and isn't it true that it's now become a bigger industry than movies (thought I heard that somewhere)? So why is it that the movie industry holds so much variety and games are recycling the same formula over and over? Is it piracy (movies aren't on the shelf on release and games are)? Are gamers really such a dense demographic that publishers make every game fit for the LCD? What is it? Would you be happy with the movie industry if it was in the state that the gaming industry currently is in? As I love movies so much, I'd be broken and it'd be an insult to movies which have so much potential. So do games, and so much of that potential is ignored.

Gaming is STAGNANT beyond belief. It's boring and the only reason I'm keeping tabs on it are because there still are 2-3 games that come out a year that are worth the attention, if that. As long as there's games like Batman I'll always game. But from what I've seen in the last few years, if what's happened in the past continues into the future, gaming overall is going downhill rapidly and I'll be paying less and less mind to it.

Fair enough. That's a respectable enough opinion to have.

I can't agree with the comparison to movies though. Movies are a different beast entirely and as far as I'm concerned the movie industry is a worse offender than the games industry when it comes to stagnation, but that's my own opinion based on always enjoying gaming more than watching movies (much to my fiancees annoyance).

I think that the problem is that you just aren't going to sell 10 million copies of Day Of The Tentacle or Monkey Island anymore and that is was I was talking about when I said that games are moving to the mainstream. For average Joe it's all about reward and that's where games are heading because that's where the money is. It's a big part of why World of Warcraft was so damn sucessful.

Don't give up hope entirely though. There are many gamers games still out there and still in the works and I don't think our industry is dead yet.

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#21 megadeth1117
Member since 2010 • 1830 Posts

I despise Call of Duty. Bordering on hate, and not because "Ima hater that's gonna hate" or I'm 12 and hate things that are popular. :roll: No. CoD's influence is literally destroying this hobby, and I have every Goddamn right to feel angry about it. People say, "blame the copycats, not CoD". I do hold them accountable but CoD holds responsibility for this as well. If it didn't exist and wasn't so successful many companies wouldn't be stripping down their games to mindless generic action slaughterfests trying to replicate its success. No one can claim it's not to blame to ANY extent. CoD is by far the worst thing that has happened to gaming, ever, and I cannot wait for its demise....IF it ever happens.

Resident Evil. Splinter Cell. Hitman. Dead Space. Mass Effect. Help me out, what else am I missing? These once brilliant franchises are now nothing more than thoughtless shooting. I mean, WHAT THE F*CK????? I am very upset, because it seems EVERY once great game franchise is going this route. And it seems everyday another one jumps on the CoD bandwagon. And there are barely any new ones replacing them which makes it all the worse. What are these companies thinking??? For f*ck's sake!! There is really nothing out there. I'm hanging onto this hobby by a thread. The only thing that's keeping my interest alive stems from indie developers and arcade/PSN games (Journey was a frikken' miracle in this "creative medium"), and RARELY great console games from time to time, such as Deus Ex and Batman. Y'know, games where I am encouraged to THINK.

Not only as gamers do we have to put up with DRM, day one (and on disk) DLC and all the other bullsh!t out there to try to maximize profits by publisher's before we ever begin to game, but when we do, what do we get? Games that appeal and are designed for the lowest common denominator. Aka, Joe Blow who comes home from a long day at work, who holds NO interest nor could give a f*ck about gaming except to power on his console to blow off the day's steam by holding down the right trigger while staring blankly ahead as his brain sits idle.

Yea. Why don't we all just turn all movies into Arnold action flicks? That's what I want. I think I'll go watch Idiocracy, sadly that movie seems to be a fairly accurate representation of where gaming is headed, and I'm not joking when I say this.

MirkoS77

Calm the hell down. They are VIDEO GAMES, just something to pass the time. It's hilarious how people like you believe the are superior beings because you play other types of games.

Don't like action games? That's fine, it's your call. Just don't act all high and mighty because you play indie games. I didn't spend $300 on a console to play a damn puzzle game, give me the big budget stuff like Max Payne 3.

And Resident Evil was NEVER a brillant franchise.

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#22 MirkoS77
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[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

I despise Call of Duty. Bordering on hate, and not because "Ima hater that's gonna hate" or I'm 12 and hate things that are popular. :roll: No. CoD's influence is literally destroying this hobby, and I have every Goddamn right to feel angry about it. People say, "blame the copycats, not CoD". I do hold them accountable but CoD holds responsibility for this as well. If it didn't exist and wasn't so successful many companies wouldn't be stripping down their games to mindless generic action slaughterfests trying to replicate its success. No one can claim it's not to blame to ANY extent. CoD is by far the worst thing that has happened to gaming, ever, and I cannot wait for its demise....IF it ever happens.

Resident Evil. Splinter Cell. Hitman. Dead Space. Mass Effect. Help me out, what else am I missing? These once brilliant franchises are now nothing more than thoughtless shooting. I mean, WHAT THE F*CK????? I am very upset, because it seems EVERY once great game franchise is going this route. And it seems everyday another one jumps on the CoD bandwagon. And there are barely any new ones replacing them which makes it all the worse. What are these companies thinking??? For f*ck's sake!! There is really nothing out there. I'm hanging onto this hobby by a thread. The only thing that's keeping my interest alive stems from indie developers and arcade/PSN games (Journey was a frikken' miracle in this "creative medium"), and RARELY great console games from time to time, such as Deus Ex and Batman. Y'know, games where I am encouraged to THINK.

Not only as gamers do we have to put up with DRM, day one (and on disk) DLC and all the other bullsh!t out there to try to maximize profits by publisher's before we ever begin to game, but when we do, what do we get? Games that appeal and are designed for the lowest common denominator. Aka, Joe Blow who comes home from a long day at work, who holds NO interest nor could give a f*ck about gaming except to power on his console to blow off the day's steam by holding down the right trigger while staring blankly ahead as his brain sits idle.

Yea. Why don't we all just turn all movies into Arnold action flicks? That's what I want. I think I'll go watch Idiocracy, sadly that movie seems to be a fairly accurate representation of where gaming is headed, and I'm not joking when I say this.

megadeth1117

Calm the hell down. They are VIDEO GAMES, just something to pass the time. It's hilarious how people like you believe the are superior beings because you play other types of games.

Don't like action games? That's fine, it's your call. Just don't act all high and mighty because you play indie games. I didn't spend $300 on a console to play a damn puzzle game, give me the big budget stuff like Max Payne 3.

And Resident Evil was NEVER a brillant franchise.

Sure it was.

And I'm not acting all high and mighty, that's just what you're seeing. I'm venting my frustration seeing where everything is headed which is maybe why that came off that way. I don't mind action, really I don't. But I mind it when that's the majority of what there is to play. And sure they're just videogames, just as movies are just movies. But I'd suspect you would have an issue if 90% of all movies became Bruce Willis/Arnold shoot-em-ups. Wouldn't that bother you? I just would like to see a little variety, that's all. And that make me think I'm "superior"? I don't see how.

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#23 WiredCynic
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB7eqwKYdy4&feature=plcp Meh.
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#24 MadVybz
Member since 2009 • 2797 Posts

I sometimes wonder if back in the day, gamers complained about the over-abundance of side scrollers and claimed they were too casual and focused too much on jumping and shooting.

The way I see it, this is just a trend in gaming that will soon pass and be replaced by something else. Games are made to make money, so if one game becomes incredibly successful and popular while being perfectly accessible to the lowest common denominator, others will follow in its footsteps. So it's only a matter of time before Call of Duty is left behind for the next 'hot new thing'. A lot of people may not be able to see a change in trend in the coming years, but I do. Not exactly sure what the new trend will be, but everything changes, and evolves.