Why do gamers buy the garbage companies say to us

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#1 downnice95
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When EA, Activision, and Microsoft do things like always online, DRM, On Disc DLC and other things, fanboys are just eating it up. Lets go back to the PS2 where this did not do any of that and guess what it was the most sucessful console and era in gaming of all time. I do not get it when EA and Capcom say we need to have on disc DLC and we need it to be online for servers and piracy they say okay I understand. 

 

WAKE UP! YOUR STUPIDITY AND FANBOYISM WILL CAUSE THE DEATH TO THIS INDUSTRY

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#2 SoNin360
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Well, people have voiced outrage for these things, just look at all of the reversals on the Xbox One. Of course, the decision was more likely made to keep up with Sony, who they were perhaps hoping would implement a constant Internet connection and/or the blocking of used games. Still, I think the outrage from gamers did help.
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#3 platinumking320
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When EA, Activision, and Microsoft do things like always online, DRM, On Disc DLC and other things, fanboys are just eating it up. Lets go back to the PS2 where this did not do any of that and guess what it was the most sucessful console and era in gaming of all time. I do not get it when EA and Capcom say we need to have on disc DLC and we need it to be online for servers and piracy they say okay I understand. 

 

WAKE UP! YOUR STUPIDITY AND FANBOYISM WILL CAUSE THE DEATH TO THIS INDUSTRY

downnice95

Some peeps just don't realize they're being sold. It's like the people who watched the matrix and said' "I'd prefer the blue pill over the red pill if you make my experience comfy." you can't tell people like that, they're getting 'farmed' when it comes to game consumption and choice.

Heck. It could be the economy. I think publishers have been in a Wall Street mode of thinking where profits aren't abundant as they used to be, and there's more of that 'RISK' they dread oh so much.  

so they feel that every golden nugget of game value that contributes the shelflife value of a game, ( 2nd hand sale profits, user generated content, expansions and engines, cool graphics art, fun kinaesthetics, diverse and online communities )  needs to vaccumed up under their platform, and exploited constantly over derivative re releases until a franchise is gone, and our wallets are short.

The state of the economy has hit not only major gaming, but the entire creative arts & sciences industry with a flood of classist desperation. It cheapens games, and films, It breeds oppression and liquidation of so many creative platforms and studios. It takes events like these to reveal just how selfish some are or if not that, how divided we really are.




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#4 Black_Knight_00
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Because it's nice to believe that someone is working with our best interests in mind, even when we know they are not.
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When EA, Activision, and Microsoft do things like always online, DRM, On Disc DLC and other things, fanboys are just eating it up. Lets go back to the PS2 where this did not do any of that and guess what it was the most sucessful console and era in gaming of all time. I do not get it when EA and Capcom say we need to have on disc DLC and we need it to be online for servers and piracy they say okay I understand. 

 

WAKE UP! YOUR STUPIDITY AND FANBOYISM WILL CAUSE THE DEATH TO THIS INDUSTRY

downnice95

You're a fool

On disc DLC offers people thew chance to get content without taxing their download limits from their ISP

Game makers don't work until the game is launched, they start work on the DLC before the game launches, in many cases they're able to include some of the DLC on the disc that needs to be unlocked

For some reason you hate people who only get a certain amount of gigs a month.

As far as Microsoft they were allowing users to have more control over their content then ever before but I guess you hate consumer rights.

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#6 BLaverock
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A little reality check... publishers and developers only want money. Gamers pay the money because the publishers and developers promise fun, freedom, change, security, etc. And, because of the system (the way things are set up), the rich get richer. Big developers and publishers now have a monopoly. Microsoft, for example, is so big that the little guy (independent developers) can barely squeeze into the business. But being big isn't enough. What do all people with power and money want?

More.

Specifically, more control. Every gaming company would like to be the ONLY gaming company, because to them, competition is a threat. Rationality and common sense tell us that competition is healthy; it keeps the big companies in check, because if gamers don't like what they do, they have the choice to buy somewhere else. Unfortunately, much of our choice today is an illusion. Almost every aspect of industry in the West has been swallowed up and absorbed into the all-powerful megacorporations. The gaming industry is no different. Do you think the CEO's of Microsoft and Sony hate each other? Probably not. Just like Republicans and Democrats, Liberals and Conservatives, they have lunch together. And while media is supposed to remain objective and promote transparency between the gamers and publishers/developers, the objectivity of the media (Gamespot and IGN) is questionable.

So, the big companies get top heavy, let the money go to their heads, and start throwing their weight around like Microsoft did at E3 with their new Xbox One policies. Fortunately, gamers made a loud enough clamour to remind Microsoft where their money was coming from, and now Microsoft is trying to repair the damage they caused to themselves. But do you think that's the end? You think they won't try it again? And not just Microsoft, but all the big gaming companies. It's coming ... dun dun duuuh!!

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#7 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="downnice95"]

When EA, Activision, and Microsoft do things like always online, DRM, On Disc DLC and other things, fanboys are just eating it up. Lets go back to the PS2 where this did not do any of that and guess what it was the most sucessful console and era in gaming of all time. I do not get it when EA and Capcom say we need to have on disc DLC and we need it to be online for servers and piracy they say okay I understand. 

 

WAKE UP! YOUR STUPIDITY AND FANBOYISM WILL CAUSE THE DEATH TO THIS INDUSTRY

Jaysonguy

You're a fool

On disc DLC offers people thew chance to get content without taxing their download limits from their ISP

Game makers don't work until the game is launched, they start work on the DLC before the game launches, in many cases they're able to include some of the DLC on the disc that needs to be unlocked

For some reason you hate people who only get a certain amount of gigs a month.

As far as Microsoft they were allowing users to have more control over their content then ever before but I guess you hate consumer rights.

How were they allowing more control than before???

And on disc DLC is stuff that should hve been included with the game, and until recent generations, it always was. Games used to have awesome unlockables for playing the game. Now al that stuff is sold to us afterwards.

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#8 Black_Knight_00
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And on disc DLC is stuff that should hve been included with the game, and until recent generations, it always was. Games used to have awesome unlockables for playing the game. Now al that stuff is sold to us afterwards.BuryMe
Not to mention they neglect bug fixing in order to make day one DLC, a besthesda guy flat out said so
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#9 spike6958
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On Disc DLC would have been DLC regardless. Fact is things such as weapon skins, costumes and characters for an online multiplayer games NEED to be on the disc, or have a mandatory content patch every time new ones are released, so that players without the content can still see it been used by other players, and since it costs a lot to release a patch (or it does on X360, I don't know about PS3), it makes the most sense to them have it be on the disc, it also makes it somewhat more convenient for players because those who do want it only need to "unlock" them with the download, rather than download a full file, and those who don't can jump right into there game instead of been forced to wait and download a patch. Also, I'm sure if it was the same price, or cheaper, to add it as part of a patch or update they would just to stop the "It's on the disc, I paid for it" crowd whining, and instead to make it look like the DLC was developed after the game was completed.
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#10 Gargus
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Most gamers dont want to believe gaming is purely for the sake of making money. They want to believe the fat guy with the beard that smiles and says how much he loves making games is saying it because he truly loves and is passionate about games, the reality is he loves making money and makes games to make money. No game developer or publisher is in business because they love games, they are in business to make money off of games. They arent your friends, they dont like you, they dont appreciate each individual fan, they dont care about anything but making money. Most gamers dont accept that, they want the fantasy.

Gaming is a huge huge booming business that makes billions each year. If you dont believe that the game industry will lie, cheat, adjust perception and context to suit their needs to get your money then you have no idea how the real world works. Gaming is no different than hollywood. If there is money to be made then people will do everything they can to make that money and they will fudge the truth and cut every single corner they can to earn as much of it as they can.

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#11 Ricardomz
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Activision makes a great multiplayer FPS that most of us love. Yes it is recycled content, but that doesn't make it less good, just the same over and over again. Same goes with the rest... Bethesda (Elder Scrolls, Fallout), Rockstar (Sandbox games), Ubisoft (Assassin's Creed) and whoever produces Battlefield.

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Wait, you mean people are being convinced to see the company point of view by trained PR people and marketing experts? Clearly these people are morons.
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 No game developer or publisher is in business because they love games, they are in business to make money off of games. They arent your friends, they dont like you, they dont appreciate each individual fan, they dont care about anything but making money.

Gargus

That's not true at all.  There are many who work in the industry that are passionate about what they do, just as there are in film, music, and any other medium.  Not to say that it's not about money, in the end of course it is but to say that it's all about money and nothing else is false.  Personally, I can easily spot a game where it's readily apparent that the developers poured their soul, hard work, and passion into their product.

On topic: I don't understand why people keep listening to Nintendo.  They are the masters of pulling the blinds over peoples' eyes for years and years now, all due to a small charasmatic, banana holding, Luigi-hat wearing, (seemingly) humble, bowing man who continually puppets everyone with apologies and pleas for understandings.  If I've ever seen any fanbase be so whipped, it's Nintendo's, and unfortunately many still give that company the benefit of the doubt.

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I don't spend my money on crap i don't like. I don't buy games from Activision and rarely buy anything from EA. If the game is good, i will buy it, if not, then i won't
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[QUOTE="downnice95"]

When EA, Activision, and Microsoft do things like always online, DRM, On Disc DLC and other things, fanboys are just eating it up. Lets go back to the PS2 where this did not do any of that and guess what it was the most sucessful console and era in gaming of all time. I do not get it when EA and Capcom say we need to have on disc DLC and we need it to be online for servers and piracy they say okay I understand. 

 

WAKE UP! YOUR STUPIDITY AND FANBOYISM WILL CAUSE THE DEATH TO THIS INDUSTRY

Jaysonguy

You're a fool

On disc DLC offers people thew chance to get content without taxing their download limits from their ISP

Game makers don't work until the game is launched, they start work on the DLC before the game launches, in many cases they're able to include some of the DLC on the disc that needs to be unlocked

For some reason you hate people who only get a certain amount of gigs a month.

As far as Microsoft they were allowing users to have more control over their content then ever before but I guess you hate consumer rights.

rofl if it's finished it should be on the game. Stop being a crybaby about your cable
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#16 firefox59
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. No game developer or publisher is in business because they love games, they are in business to make money off of games. They arent your friends, they dont like you, they dont appreciate each individual fan, they dont care about anything but making money.

Gargus
This is one of the most incorrect posts in the history of the internet. Companies make money of they fail, obviously, but the actual people who work on the games don't make nearly enough to do it with some passion for what they do.
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#17 DJ-Lafleur
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I generally don't take what developers say with 100% faith, and I let the products itself and/or general reputation of the product from critics/gamers do most of the talking.

If something has a feature I do not care for, I may still buy the game, if the game is still actually good outside of said bad feature, and if the feature can be ignored.

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Not everyone does. To say they do is generalizing.

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#19 Tazzman1000
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Because they killed the batman that's why..... Jokes aside just buy treat the game companies like you would food companies: just buy the products you want no mess no fuss and hopefully pro green wack jobs won't yell at you at the counter for supporting animal hatred