Why do movie industry pick worst possible games..

to turn into a movie?

Dead or Alive? Street Fighter? Sims? Resident Evil? Tomb Raider?

1st, fighting games don't have ANY story that's worth a d@mn. Anyone that gets seriously into fighting game story would watch porn for story too.

Resident Evil story is terrible. Tomb Raider never had compelling story until Crystal Dynamic took over, and even then the story is just there to set the mood, not a main selling point.

So why do movie producers, company, or whatever ignore all the games with story that actually worth something (xenogears, final fantasy tactics, etc), and go with worthless games that might have popularity, but has absolutely no element to be used to turn into a movie?

Granted many good games with good story is usually too long to turn into a movie, but some games have decent length to turn into a movie.

Of course some are actually used, like Silent Hill. Then they go out and completely butcher it by not understanding the whole point of the game (but then again, expecting that from brain-dead hollywood related individuals was unrealistic on my part) and make in into yet another Hollywood cliche-filled garbage.

Well.. this rant came up because I just heard about King of Fighters is turning into a movie.

yet another game franchise that should've never turn into a movie.

How about this Hollywood? Make a God of War movie. Considering what a huge hit 300 was, God of War would no doubt be Huge hit.

Tomb Raider could've worked, though, had it been more like the Indiana Jones Trilogy. Those are still some of my all time favorite movies.

I think Hollywood is just looking for a brand name...if a good movie comes out of it, happy accident. Even the game publishers don't seem to care too much about the quality of a movie based on their game, and why should they? Most of the time they're gonna make money even if the movie tanks (royalties). And let's face it, the movie being total trash isn't gonna stop anyone from playing the game. So it's really win-win from a game publisher's pov. They're not gonna say no if some idiot from Hollywood shows up to buy the rights to a Crazy Taxi movie if he's also willing to take on the financial risk of making it.

I suppose it'd be nice to have a quality adaptation of a game, but as long as I have the game, I'm happy.

How about this Hollywood? Make a God of War movie. Considering what a huge hit 300 was, God of War would no doubt be Huge hit.TriangleHard

So make a 300 rip-off with Kratos slapped on it.

"THIS...IS...HADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!"

Because the properties have recognizeable names and existing fan bases, and they were able to get the movie rights for a decent price. It's just business.

Although isn't it still kind of fun to see some games turned into movies, even if they are often a little cheeseball?

I agree with Topic maker except on his bit about Silent Hill Movie. The Silent Hill movie was fantastic and very much in the heart of the Silent Hill games. Other then turning the protagonist into a woman, I don't see why Shaun Bean didn't play the role of Harry and they could of kept it even closer to the game. If you want it to be insactly like the game where we watch 3 hours of people shuffling around boxes looking for ammo then you should start shooting your own home movies and cater for yourself.

If I was to complain about another thing in the movie it would be the over CGI disfigured child monsters you see early on. Otherwise I liked how it portrayed Praymid head, Heather, The way the world warps, the fog they can never escape and the black blood. I captured the mood of the games very well and it's certainly the first game to movie i've enjoyed.

I have mixed feelings about this topic, but in my honest opinion, it's not really the material that counts but the lack of talent of the filmmakers.

For example, Resident Evil can be a great horror movie but when guys like Paul WS Anderson is behind it, than you know it will fail. And likewise, believe it or not, Street Fighter could be a good movie if done right. I believe that. It all depends on how good or bad the filmmakers are. In the case of SF, obviously is bad. Also, I remember when the Doom filmmakers were boasting how their movie will be good and unlike the cheesy video-game movies. Ha, yeah, whatever.

So your title should be more like, "Why do games get chosen by the worst filmmakers in Hollywood to be turned into a movie?"

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]How about this Hollywood? Make a God of War movie. Considering what a huge hit 300 was, God of War would no doubt be Huge hit.Cherokee_Jack

So make a 300 rip-off with Kratos slapped on it.

"THIS...IS...HADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!"

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]How about this Hollywood? Make a God of War movie. Considering what a huge hit 300 was, God of War would no doubt be Huge hit.TriangleHard

So make a 300 rip-off with Kratos slapped on it.

"THIS...IS...HADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!"

To be fair, 300 was major God of War rip off. Color-tone, techniques, etc were ALL straight out of God of War.

So the look of the film came from her color design and Frank Miller's input. So 300 came before God of War, way before it.

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"] To be fair, 300 was major God of War rip off. Color-tone, techniques, etc were ALL straight out of God of War.Skylock00

[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"] To be fair, 300 was major God of War rip off. Color-tone, techniques, etc were ALL straight out of God of War.TriangleHard

I didn't think so. And Zack Synder really didn't direct the movie himself. As I said, Frank Miller had a lot of say on the film. He storyboarded the movie!

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"] When you direct a movie, what director does is just tell that movie. Not coming up with entire story. So my whole point of saying it's straight rip off is how much of story telling techniques were just straight rip off from god of war. The visual style, the narration style story telling, etc. The character and story might be different, but the entire story telling techniques were straight carbon copy of God of War.Skylock00

As Skylock pointed out, at the end, it will always still be Frank Miller's vision, just like Sin City and how that was made.

Miller had so much say on these films that Robert Rodriguez wanted to credit Miller as a co-director, but the board of directors or academy wouldn't let him. I'm sure Miller had that much involvment with 300 as well.

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"] When you direct a movie, what director does is just tell that movie. Not coming up with entire story. So my whole point of saying it's straight rip off is how much of story telling techniques were just straight rip off from god of war. The visual style, the narration style story telling, etc. The character and story might be different, but the entire story telling techniques were straight carbon copy of God of War.Skylock00

Can two people have identical vision of telling the story? Maybe possible, but rather unrealistic for that to happen. The still motion scene where characters look like a cut out but camera is moving, etc was unique touch in God of War. Since I've not seen such technique before, I'd say it is more plausible to say Frank Miller or whoever directed the movie played the game and thought that technique would work well with 300. Even if the story of 300 came out before God of War, the visual techniques were used in God of War first. First come first served. TriangleHard

As for the fimling technique of having action change speed in mid sequence and such. One could argue that those techniques are borrowed from the likes of the Matrix, even...I get what you're saying, but it just doesn't seem like a solid argument at all. The movie 300 was based extremely heavily from the framing and visual approach of the comic book, much like the movie Sin City was.

i'm sorry but i disagree with this generalisation that the movie industry chooses bad games to make movies.

firstly there are many exceptions, like silent hill, resident evil (and the supposed Bioshock movie)

secondly why does everyone expect game-movies to be great, IMO there arent that many great movies every year yet gamers still whine about game-movies being bad.

lastly, i go to the movies to watch a movie. if i want to play a game i stay at home. Dont go out hoping for a gaming experience when its not meant to be one.

i'm sorry but i disagree with this generalisation that the movie industry chooses bad games to make movies.

firstly there are many exceptions, like silent hill, resident evil (and the supposed Bioshock movie)

secondly why does everyone expect game-movies to be great, IMO there arent that many great movies every year yet gamers still whine about game-movies being bad.

lastly, i go to the movies to watch a movie. if i want to play a game i stay at home. Dont go out hoping for a gaming experience when its not meant to be one.

Luci4

firstly there are many exceptions, like silent hill, resident evil (and the supposed Bioshock movie)Luci4

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]How about this Hollywood? Make a God of War movie. Considering what a huge hit 300 was, God of War would no doubt be Huge hit.Cherokee_Jack

So make a 300 rip-off with Kratos slapped on it.

"THIS...IS...HADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!"

Heres a trailer if you havent heard of it.... http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QZhdjReB17w

1st, fighting games don't have ANY story that's worth a d@mn. Anyone that gets seriously into fighting game story would watch porn for story too.

Resident Evil story is terrible. TriangleHard

That's not true of all fighting games. I think the Guilty Gear series had an excellent plot going, until they decided to throw that out with Guilty Gear 2: Overture. Sigh.

And uh, I thought the Resident Evil story was pretty spiffy, too. You have to love those evil corporations! If anything, I think the Resident Evil Remake was a testament to that. Though, I don't think anyone would blame you if you played the PlayStation Resident Evil with your ears closed any time there was a cutscene.

But other than that, I don't remember if someone else in this thread mentioned it, but all Hollywood sees in videogames is money. If a game makes enough money, you can bet some horrible movie director (I'm looking at you, Uwe Boll) will try to cash in on the hype. Of course, apparently, Uwe Boll funds his own projects, so that leaves Paul Anderson, who did a fantastic job with the first Mortal Kombat, but seriously fell short on the others. And there are other directors, of course -- I just can't recall them at the moment.

Oh great just another chance for TriangleHard to bash good games.

Anyways, anybody who has seen In The Line Of Duty 4 (or more specifically Tiger Cage 2) can see how a fighting game can be turned into a good movie (no those two aren't fighting games turned movies) I'm pretty sure Tekken will be a great movie. They have the man who many people call the real life Eddy Gordo, Lateef Crowder, playing..Eddy Gordo. Just watch these videos to see how much ass this man kicks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB6ylODLoeEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZryD0Ds2Bshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxCb_1hjBz0 And the Tekken movie is being directed by the director of Rapid Fire so it definitely should be great.

Of course some are actually used, like Silent Hill. Then they go out and completely butcher it by not understanding the whole point of the game (but then again, expecting that from brain-dead hollywood related individuals was unrealistic on my part) and make in into yet another Hollywood cliche-filled garbage.

TriangleHard

Silent Hill was a brilliant horror film made by an incredibly talented and visionary director who showed a great deal of respect to the source material while weaving a more streamlined narrative for the sake of the medium.

The vast majority of films based on games are utter crap but I'll defend Silent Hill until the end of time. I'm a true enthusiast of the horror genre and Silent Hill was one of the most interesting and innovative horror films of the last decade and trust me when I tell you that I'm not alone in that assessment.

And uh, I thought the Resident Evil story was pretty spiffy, too. You have to love those evil corporations! If anything, I think the Resident Evil Remake was a testament to that. Though, I don't think anyone would blame you if you played the PlayStation Resident Evil with your ears closed any time there was a cutscene.

Dan_Chieffallo

but then you'd be missing the best part! I think the fundamental problem with the RE movies is that there's not one Jill Sandwich anywhere, nor did I once hear any props for the Master of Unlocking. RE has always been the genre's retarded little brother, and that's why we love it - It's the campiness. The RE movies take themselves too seriously. This should have been handled more like Dead Alive - gore + absurdity, totally tongue-in-cheek.

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

Of course some are actually used, like Silent Hill. Then they go out and completely butcher it by not understanding the whole point of the game (but then again, expecting that from brain-dead hollywood related individuals was unrealistic on my part) and make in into yet another Hollywood cliche-filled garbage.

Grammaton-Cleric

Silent Hill was a brilliant horror film made by an incredibly talented and visionary director who showed a great deal of respect to the source material while weaving a more streamlined narrative for the sake of the medium.

The vast majority of films based on games are utter crap but I'll defend Silent Hill until the end of time. I'm a true enthusiast of the horror genre and Silent Hill was one of the most interesting and innovative horror films of the last decade and trust me when I tell you that I'm not alone in that assessment.

Resident Evil could have been made into a better movie. With the right people, the concept of a virus that turns people into zombies can't go wrong......?

Degeneration will still be cheese-tacular.

but then you'd be missing the best part!

Ish_basic

Oh, I know. I know. When I first played that game, I was completely terrified of it; the atmosphere was fantastic! And yet, I would be yanked out of it every time someone spoke because of godawful dialog and voice-acting. But eh -- that was still an achievement for a game released in that era, so it was pretty nifty.

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

Of course some are actually used, like Silent Hill. Then they go out and completely butcher it by not understanding the whole point of the game (but then again, expecting that from brain-dead hollywood related individuals was unrealistic on my part) and make in into yet another Hollywood cliche-filled garbage.

Skylock00

Silent Hill was a brilliant horror film made by an incredibly talented and visionary director who showed a great deal of respect to the source material while weaving a more streamlined narrative for the sake of the medium.

The vast majority of films based on games are utter crap but I'll defend Silent Hill until the end of time. I'm a true enthusiast of the horror genre and Silent Hill was one of the most interesting and innovative horror films of the last decade and trust me when I tell you that I'm not alone in that assessment.

What's interesting about the ending of the film is that it's significantly different than what Gans originally wanted. He originally wanted several Pyramid Heads to materialize in the church and kill the congregation but the budget restraints forced them to alter his vision.

I'm really interested to see what he can do with Onimusha, assuming the film ever actually gets made.

What's interesting about the ending of the film is that it's significantly different than what Gans originally wanted. He originally wanted several Pyramid Heads to materialize in the church and kill the congregation but the budget restraints forced them to alter his vision.

I'm really interested to see what he can do with Onimusha, assuming the film ever actually gets made.

Grammaton-Cleric

[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

Silent Hill was a brilliant horror film made by an incredibly talented and visionary director who showed a great deal of respect to the source material while weaving a more streamlined narrative for the sake of the medium.

The vast majority of films based on games are utter crap but I'll defend Silent Hill until the end of time. I'm a true enthusiast of the horror genre and Silent Hill was one of the most interesting and innovative horror films of the last decade and trust me when I tell you that I'm not alone in that assessment.

Grammaton-Cleric

What's interesting about the ending of the film is that it's significantly different than what Gans originally wanted. He originally wanted several Pyramid Heads to materialize in the church and kill the congregation but the budget restraints forced them to alter his vision.

I'm really interested to see what he can do with Onimusha, assuming the film ever actually gets made.