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There is this really cool trend of absolutely hating the Wii U. whether it is for being under-powered or being something that people know nothing about and are confused about.But if People hate on the Wii U for the lack of understanding, then why don't they take the time to learn about it? and if it is such a wide spread trend to hate it now,then obviously people know what it is. It is getting really annoying as a gamer to have all these famous Youtubers and mainstream idiots talking trash about a wonderful system just because it is cool. Just yesterday Smosh made a video and at the end they called the Wii u "a huge piece of shit that has no games". It is not new for people to dislike Nintendos latest system but this is different. The community was just starting to realize that the Wii u is a great system with truly amazing games. Online comment sections and forums were finally seeing positive reactions to the console. Now that Nintendo has started to please its fan base the mainstream casuals want to take it away.

They are using what the game community has said in the past to gain viewership and popularity through a once popular controversial topic. It is not popular to talk about all the good and truly wonderful things that Nintendo has done. It is popular however to talk about their failures and blame them for the bad reputation of the Wii U. And the more that these very well known people talk trash and make jokes at the system, the more views they will get,and the more gamers that take it seriously,the more Wii U's will not sell because of the "opinion" of one or two people that have a multimillion following on popular sites.People talk trash about the Wii U because it is the easy thing to do. They do it because it gains the attention of other people who like to hate on it, and the people who are loyal to Nintendo and will defend it.

The problem here is that The Wii U really is a great console. It is my personal "next gen" system and one that I would recommend to anyone. Nintendo has in my opinion the best selection of first party titles on any of the systems. Pikmin 3,Donkey Kong country tropical freeze,super mario bros. U, The legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD,Super Mario 3D world, wonderful 101,and Mario Kart 8 ,Super smash bros. and a new Legend of Zelda are coming. The system is also Backwards compatible. It has the games! It has the best 'next gen' games! and the people that say it is not next gen because it is not as powerful as the Ps4 and Xbox one are stupid. Power does not make a system "next gen". Innovation and change are also a large part of it. Compared to the Xbox one and the PS4 the Wii U does an outstanding job at being an amazingly fun and entertaining system. Power is not everything! If Power was everything that mattered then you should have bought a PC! Compared to a Pc your "next gen" consoles are Crap!

It is not about the Power and the graphics.(though those do help) It is about the Games and the community. And Nintendo has started to finally listen to its community.Look at the new Nintendo direct for Mario Kart 8. They tried to get on the same level as the fans and joke around and have a good time. (They announced that you will be able to upload your Mario Kart 8 gameplay directly to Youtube) No one is talking about that. Nintendo announced that for the first time they will be hosting a Super smash bros. tournament at E3 this year! And they will also be allowing fans to play the new smash bros. at Best buy during E3! They are listening to the community more than ever and this is their way of saying it!

It is a shame that most people wont read this(even though I know it is too long and not that good) and it is a shame that people in the mainstream like to belittle the console so much. It is a shame that A absolutely wonderful system with outstandingly amazing games will be shut out by the millions of people that didn't care about Nintendo in the first place. The people that hate on something because it is the cool thing to do are despicable. There is little hope for the Wii U. but that doesn't matter to me. Because I don't care what people say, If the console has amazing games and I find it fun and worth my time and money then what are they going to do? Persuade millions of people to hate the thing for no good reason until Nintendo gives in and abandons their loyal fan-base in order to target the mainstream audience again? Probably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_LjSup-TTo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWrZIXUxc3A -Examples of the subtle hate that the Wii U is getting.

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#1 Black_Knight_00
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The preferred wording is "Wii HATE U", but I guess "Wii U HATE" will do.

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#2  Edited By Black_Knight_00
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The preferred wording is "Wii HATE U", but I guess "Wii U HATE" will do.

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#3 SovietsUnited
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You like Nintendo a lot

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#4  Edited By jasean79
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If the Wii U ever needs a spokesperson, you get my vote!

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#6  Edited By MWright469
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Oh my god, oh my god..... The fanboyism is staggering.

You seem to have the peachy little idea in your noggin that "EVERYONE HATES TEH WIIU CUZ ITS NOT AS POWARFUL!".

Ahem.....

WRONG.

For as much hate as it had from the hardcore community, the original Wii sold ridiculously well and was popular among many people, despite having been about 10 times less powerful than the 360/PS3.

People hate the WiiU for a few reasons, here's why:

- The ridiculous, blocky, uncomfortable controller that feels like you're holding a serving tray with shoulder buttons.

- The ridiculous, blocky, uncomfortable controller that only lasts 3 hours.

- The outdated online services

- The confusing and complex multiplayer system (using controllers from an old 2006 console to play multiplayer on a new one, are you serious?)

- The lack of proper peripherals integration of services like voice chat in the freaking year 2014.

- Drum roll please..........................................................................................................................there are no games.

These are just a few reasons, but I could go on. You seem desperate to defend a console that literally has nothing going for it and should never have seen the light of day. I don't know how you can pick up that god aweful controller and play another boring, mundane game like Mario 3D World and then come and bitch about how great it is. Either you seriously need to re-assess your priorities or you have really, really bad taste in gaming.

Nintendo seriously feeds people like you year after year with the same garbage they've been throwing for 30 years, and you consume it like a junkie. If you want to love your precious WiiU, by all means, do it. But don't expect me or anyone else to, because clearly everyone else actually knows better than to spend their money on a horrid device like the WiiU which is outclassed in literally every way by a Playstation 3 from 2007. Okay? Peace.

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i wouldn't say i hate the wii u. nintendo is one of my favorite gaming companies (or has been anyway). it's just that they made a console that worries me a lot.

the power thing isn't about graphics. it's about nintendo making a console that's a pain for 3rd parties to port their games on because it won't run most of the PS4/XB1/PC titles released in the next year and on.

and for a company whose VC put online shops on the map for consoles last generation, nintendo seemingly has no idea what they're doing with making an online shop for new games. last i heard, game purchases were still linked to wii u hardware and the only reason why i have any doubt that it's still like that is because that's such an awful policy. even if that weren't an issue, there's the tiny HDD that would be very inconvenient. and of course, nintendo still isn't doing much to bring developers in to get their games on the store anyway.

without the support for and from developers, the wii u is going to be another secondary console i may want for a few nintendo games. even then, it's not looking too promising to me. there isn't much of a price gap between it and the PS4 so it's harder to convince myself that it's worth the cash. and really, nintendo hasn't made any games since skyward sword that i had to have.

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@arrow2thekneeXD said:

There is this really cool trend of absolutely hating the Wii U. whether it is for being under-powered or being something that people know nothing about and are confused about.But if People hate on the Wii U for the lack of understanding, then why don't they take the time to learn about it? and if it is such a wide spread trend to hate it now,then obviously people know what it is. It is getting really annoying as a gamer to have all these famous Youtubers and mainstream idiots talking trash about a wonderful system just because it is cool. Just yesterday Smosh made a video and at the end they called the Wii u "a huge piece of shit that has no games". It is not new for people to dislike Nintendos latest system but this is different. The community was just starting to realize that the Wii u is a great system with truly amazing games. Online comment sections and forums were finally seeing positive reactions to the console. Now that Nintendo has started to please its fan base the mainstream casuals want to take it away.

They are using what the game community has said in the past to gain viewership and popularity through a once popular controversial topic. It is not popular to talk about all the good and truly wonderful things that Nintendo has done. It is popular however to talk about their failures and blame them for the bad reputation of the Wii U. And the more that these very well known people talk trash and make jokes at the system, the more views they will get,and the more gamers that take it seriously,the more Wii U's will not sell because of the "opinion" of one or two people that have a multimillion following on popular sites.People talk trash about the Wii U because it is the easy thing to do. They do it because it gains the attention of other people who like to hate on it, and the people who are loyal to Nintendo and will defend it.

The problem here is that The Wii U really is a great console. It is my personal "next gen" system and one that I would recommend to anyone. Nintendo has in my opinion the best selection of first party titles on any of the systems. Pikmin 3,Donkey Kong country tropical freeze,super mario bros. U, The legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD,Super Mario 3D world, wonderful 101,and Mario Kart 8 ,Super smash bros. and a new Legend of Zelda are coming. The system is also Backwards compatible. It has the games! It has the best 'next gen' games! and the people that say it is not next gen because it is not as powerful as the Ps4 and Xbox one are stupid. Power does not make a system "next gen". Innovation and change are also a large part of it. Compared to the Xbox one and the PS4 the Wii U does an outstanding job at being an amazingly fun and entertaining system. Power is not everything! If Power was everything that mattered then you should have bought a PC! Compared to a Pc your "next gen" consoles are Crap!

It is not about the Power and the graphics.(though those do help) It is about the Games and the community. And Nintendo has started to finally listen to its community.Look at the new Nintendo direct for Mario Kart 8. They tried to get on the same level as the fans and joke around and have a good time. (They announced that you will be able to upload your Mario Kart 8 gameplay directly to Youtube) No one is talking about that. Nintendo announced that for the first time they will be hosting a Super smash bros. tournament at E3 this year! And they will also be allowing fans to play the new smash bros. at Best buy during E3! They are listening to the community more than ever and this is their way of saying it!

It is a shame that most people wont read this(even though I know it is too long and not that good) and it is a shame that people in the mainstream like to belittle the console so much. It is a shame that A absolutely wonderful system with outstandingly amazing games will be shut out by the millions of people that didn't care about Nintendo in the first place. The people that hate on something because it is the cool thing to do are despicable. There is little hope for the Wii U. but that doesn't matter to me. Because I don't care what people say, If the console has amazing games and I find it fun and worth my time and money then what are they going to do? Persuade millions of people to hate the thing for no good reason until Nintendo gives in and abandons their loyal fan-base in order to target the mainstream audience again? Probably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_LjSup-TTo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWrZIXUxc3A -Examples of the subtle hate that the Wii U is getting.

I read this, it's not bad. Don't know what you mean.

I don't agree people hate the Wii U because it's "the cool thing to do". Don't you see things Nintendo has done (and is currently doing) that are not painting them in the best of light? I'll tell you why I don't hold them in the highest of esteem nowadays:

  • they are in many ways a backwards company in their policies. For example, tying accounts to their hardware which is very anti-consumer and something other companies that deal with digital offerings have been doing since '03.
  • being too conservative in their software output. Mostly all of the new IPs are budget titles, and those that aren't are still highly conservative.
  • they make it a point of pride to be ignorant of the world around them.
  • they were caught unprepared for high-definition development many years after their competition.
  • speaking of competition, they insist they aren't, and as such we have to live with their piss-poor standards that reside years in the past and move at a snail's pace.
  • their Virtual Console output is pathetic.
  • their online still lacks compared to years ago in features.
  • their mentalities and philosophies and defeatist and antiquated.
  • although getting better, their pricing can still be ridiculous.
  • third parties support is abysmal.
  • their refusal to acknowledge and put their full backing behind getting Western games out there when the Western market now compromises the majority percentage of gaming today.

Nintendo is a company that refuses to do the most basic of things, seemingly just due to the fact that everyone else is and Nintendo just has to be seen as the individual, and I think that frustrates a lot of people. It does me at least. And personally, much of what they do I think deserves every shred of mockery and contempt out there of which I think you'd label as hate (but not things like weak hardware, but more so the accounts, their conservatism, and almost all of Iwata's statements). It's not hate, and it's certainly not "hate to be cool". It's valid criticism. There's no conspiracy against Nintendo, the position they're in is well earned.

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@jasean79: HAHA! That's great:)

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@mwright469 said:
- The ridiculous, blocky, uncomfortable controller that feels like you're holding a serving tray with shoulder buttons.

The Gamepad is actually very comfortable.

"- The confusing and complex multiplayer system (using controllers from an old 2006 console to play multiplayer on a new one, are you serious?)"
That's neither confusing nor complex. Especially when you consider how you can buy and use a standard controller.

"- Drum roll please..........................................................................................................................there are no games."
Except there are.

"I don't know how you can pick up that god aweful controller and play another boring, mundane game like Mario 3D World"
Because it's a comfortable controller and a great game.

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#13  Edited By Jacanuk
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OP you posted in the wrong forum

Systemwars is the forum you need.

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#14 arrow2thekneeXD
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@MirkoS77: Nintendo gets a lot of garbage for the Wii U, but sometimes looking stupid and making somewhat odd marketing decisions is part of the risk of innovation and technology. Nintendo does a great job at trying new things out. They try to move gaming forward and to evolve the experience by creating different ways to play games. Sometimes innovation doesn't work out and they fail, but other times they do amazing. Nintendo isn't trying to compete with Microsoft and Sony. They are in their own world and that is alright with me. Because when they do innovate and it does work out it is worth the risk of them making a new product and me buying it. Nintendo is the only company that will take a risk these days. And I'm glad they around to do it.