Will GTA IV be Adult Only soon?

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This looks very much like Hot Coffee.... So do you think that GTA IV will soon become AO? I think it might.

[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]

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This looks very much like Hot Coffee.... So do you think that GTA IV will soon become AO? I think it might.

shoemen22

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm its a rated 18 already and always has been so im going to go with yeah ofcourse its going to be Adults only DUH!!!!! dumb thread

No it's rated M which is 17, the same as San Andreas which was changed to AO until the edited version of the game was released.

[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]

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This looks very much like Hot Coffee.... So do you think that GTA IV will soon become AO? I think it might.

shoemen22

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm its a rated 18 already and always has been so im going to go with yeah ofcourse its going to be Adults only DUH!!!!! dumb thread

I think he or she is asking if there will ever come the day when we will see a full blown AO rated GTA sitting on store shelves. If this is the case, I would have to say no. Console manufacturers don't want to have their consoles associated with the inevitable controversy a AO title would bring, and would not hesitate to reject production of such a game. Retailers wouldn't want to be caught in the fray either, as many of them have policies which ban the promotion and selling of AO titles outright.

Admittedly, it would be cool for the player to have a AO GTA to toy around with. But as long as the industry has such policies and views in place, it makes no sense to make one. How are you going to sell something no one is willing to market???

[QUOTE="shoemen22"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]

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This looks very much like Hot Coffee.... So do you think that GTA IV will soon become AO? I think it might.

buckybuckster

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm its a rated 18 already and always has been so im going to go with yeah ofcourse its going to be Adults only DUH!!!!! dumb thread

I think he or she is asking if there will ever come the day when we will see a full blown AO rated GTA sitting on store shelves. If this is the case, I would have to say no. Console manufacturers don't want to have their consoles associated with the inevitable controversy a AO title would bring, and would not hesitate to reject production of such a game. Retailers wouldn't want to be caught in the fray either, as many of them have policies which ban the promotion and selling of AO titles outright.

Admittedly, it would be cool for the player to have a AO GTA to toy around with. But as long as the industry has such policies and views in place, it makes no sense to make one. How are you going to sell something no one is willing to market???

Um, no did you click the link?
Will GTA 4, that releases tomorrow, be changed to AO because of the new Hot Coffee type gameplay described (and shown) via that news article.

Basically it shows Niko getting a BJ in a mini game.

Its not hidden, which means the ESRB must have seen it, and they rated it an M still.tman93

Yup. They don't really show anything, although it is VERY suggestive. The ESRB will probably take a lot of heat from the Jack Thompson brigade, but Rockstar wasn't hiding it this time.

There is no hidden stuf there, it is all stuff that ESRB will have allready seen and judged to be M. Hot coffee was hidden and ESRB didn't know it was there when they rated it.

The ONLY reason the ESRB re-rated GTA:SA as an AO game was because the stuff in Hot Coffee features a gamer controlled sex act. It WASN'T re-rated because there was sexual situations. The only problem ESRB had with the content is that it was actual gameplay and not a cinema or event.

Sure the politicians and Thompson may have been mad that there was sex at all in the game, what got the ESRB to change the rating was the interactivity of it, and the fact that Rockstar did all they could to refuse responsibility for the content before finally admitting to it.

Nudity, violence, even sex scenes (to a degree) are ALL allowed under the M rating. Regardless of what Thompson complains about. The M is pretty much equal to the R rating, so pretty much anything that you could see in an R rated film is allowed in M rated games.

Its when things get too pornographic (genital on genital action, gamer controlled sexual activities), that is when the game leaves the "M"ature area, and enters into the AO territory.

The politicians can complain all they want, but in the end its the parents of the kids who get a hold of this game that are being irresponsible, NOT the First Ammendment protected creators of the game.

I'm not a fan of censorship of any media, but I wonder how feasible it would be to put out an edited version of GTA4 that would be rated T. Not because I'd want it, but it would seen like a great way to avoid the controversy. Sell the M rated version to people with ID and sell the T rated version to people who are under age. They sell censored albums all the time. If anything Rockstar would sell more copies, and face fewer lawsuits.rragnaar

That would seem like a logical solution to me, but I doubt it would work out. Kind of like how making the option available to buy the unedited version of a CD or the version that had been cleaned up to avoid the "Parental Advisory" sticker never worked. I never knew anyone who had the bleeped out version of the CD.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]I'm not a fan of censorship of any media, but I wonder how feasible it would be to put out an edited version of GTA4 that would be rated T. Not because I'd want it, but it would seen like a great way to avoid the controversy. Sell the M rated version to people with ID and sell the T rated version to people who are under age. They sell censored albums all the time. If anything Rockstar would sell more copies, and face fewer lawsuits.SophinaK

That would seem like a logical solution to me, but I doubt it would work out. Kind of like how making the option available to buy the unedited version of a CD or the version that had been cleaned up to avoid the "Parental Advisory" sticker never worked. I never knew anyone who had the bleeped out version of the CD.

I would also think that a BIG portion of that M rating is the ability to just run around and kill anyone you want to. Taking that out would REALLY change the game into something that doesn't even resemble the original game.

I'm pretty sure if they took all the language, nudity, sexual situations and all that out, the game would STILL get that M rating just on the pure unleashed violence that a gamer could create at any given time.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]I'm not a fan of censorship of any media, but I wonder how feasible it would be to put out an edited version of GTA4 that would be rated T. Not because I'd want it, but it would seen like a great way to avoid the controversy. Sell the M rated version to people with ID and sell the T rated version to people who are under age. They sell censored albums all the time. If anything Rockstar would sell more copies, and face fewer lawsuits.SophinaK

That would seem like a logical solution to me, but I doubt it would work out. Kind of like how making the option available to buy the unedited version of a CD or the version that had been cleaned up to avoid the "Parental Advisory" sticker never worked. I never knew anyone who had the bleeped out version of the CD.

It is funny that in one thread we are discussing the over-sexualization of women in games and how it is a problem, and in this thread I'm sorta contradicting it by saying sex in GTA4 isn't a big deal. Maybe I'm a hypocrite... but I think sex has a place in gaming, even if its place isn't well defined yet.

I'm not a fan of censorship of any media, but I wonder how feasible it would be to put out an edited version of GTA4 that would be rated T. Not because I'd want it, but it would seen like a great way to avoid the controversy. Sell the M rated version to people with ID and sell the T rated version to people who are under age. They sell censored albums all the time. If anything Rockstar would sell more copies, and face fewer lawsuits.rragnaar

At the expense of their message. GTA4 is as much a satirical view of modern culture as an entertaining and controversial video-game.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]I'm not a fan of censorship of any media, but I wonder how feasible it would be to put out an edited version of GTA4 that would be rated T. Not because I'd want it, but it would seen like a great way to avoid the controversy. Sell the M rated version to people with ID and sell the T rated version to people who are under age. They sell censored albums all the time. If anything Rockstar would sell more copies, and face fewer lawsuits.TheSystemLord1

At the expense of their message. GTA4 is as much a satirical view of modern culture as an entertaining and controversial video-game.

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]I'm not a fan of censorship of any media, but I wonder how feasible it would be to put out an edited version of GTA4 that would be rated T. Not because I'd want it, but it would seen like a great way to avoid the controversy. Sell the M rated version to people with ID and sell the T rated version to people who are under age. They sell censored albums all the time. If anything Rockstar would sell more copies, and face fewer lawsuits.rragnaar

At the expense of their message. GTA4 is as much a satirical view of modern culture as an entertaining and controversial video-game.

Actually, I think it could still be totally hilarious. Of course, half the dialogue would be bleeped out, anything even sort-of offensive would be represented by a black rectangle on the screen. Seriouslly, imagine if they put out a version that replaced every pedestrian with Middle Eastern terrorists and put nursery rhymes on the radio. Sure, it would be borderline unplayable, but that would be the joke.

IGN def didn't help the controversey with their clip put together like that. I can only imagine that this well be blown up once Fox news gets ahold of this. Thankfully I am getting a copy tonight, so I won't care what happens to the rating after I have a copy. Honestly though when you really look at the content in the game and even watching that clip from IGN, numerous R-rated movie have much much worse than that, the M - rated should stay