Will GTA V will be an Exclusive or Multiplatform?

I was just wondering that with the growing sales of PS3 which will likely to grow thanks to some big upcoming games does anybody thinks what will Rockstar going to do with GTA franchise? I mean will it become PS exclusive again or will remain multiplat? I mean i never objected GTA games to be on ps2 then coming on xbox and then on pc but considering the rising cost of devloping games i kind of find it hard that GTA will remain exlusive to any system, whether its xbox or playstation. What do you guys think?

P.S. Please refrain from posting comments which could end up me being suspended again since i already had enough trouble talking about GTA IV.

exclusivity has become the exception rather than the norm.OneWingedAngeI

I know man..and sometimes its kind of silly looking at both sony and microsoft fighting for the exclusives.

They are making so much money with multiplatform development that I think they'd have a hard time justifying exclusivity for either platform.rragnaar

True. But what if either PS3 or 360 becomes the highest selling console around the world after Wii..don't you think that Rockstar would notice this shift and will release the game as timed exclusive like how they did with previous generation. PS2 first, Xbox second and then Pc last?

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]They are making so much money with multiplatform development that I think they'd have a hard time justifying exclusivity for either platform.Mcgnnis1

True. But what if either PS3 or 360 becomes the highest selling console around the world after Wii..don't you think that Rockstar would notice this shift and will release the game as timed exclusive like how they did with previous generation. PS2 first, Xbox second and then Pc last?

Its not really the same situation. The PS2 had a userbase 5 times as big as the Xbox. Right now it looks like the 360 and PS3 will end up in a deadlock by the end of this generation.

Considering that EA will have almost certainly made its acquisition of Take Two by then, it will be multiplatformJDUB_x

even if EA buys Take Two.. i think that they certainly have to pay a lot more then 2 billion dollars since GTA IV has increased the value of Take Two..but then agin..i hope EA fails again. I simply do not want EA to get their hands on this particular game.

GTA V would probably be multiplatform because rockstar can have more sales and a greater profit, being a console exclusive makes it unfair to gamers without the system

And lets be honest if exclusivity was up for grabs microsoft would quite easily outbid sony for it just look what they paid for the exclusive DLC it seems microsoft have become very shrewed at grabbing exclusive things not necessarily exclusive games but if it came down to it I would have to put my money on microsoft.

But then with GTA I very much doubt it will be exclusive again they have had alot more success since the series went multiplatform.

Multiplatform = more profit so Rockstar going back to exclusive is not going to happen. They may choose in the future to stagger releases on consoles to maximise profits but exclusivity has lost a lot of viability over the past couple of years.

Dev's only tend to sell their soul's to the corporations if their game is average... think Halo anyone?

Most likely, it will remain multiplatform, so Rockstar can maximize their prophets. Frankly, I could care less, for all the money they make and all the game development experience they have, I don't see the series making any real evolution. It's taken them four GTA games to fully explore the range of features a sandbox should have, while Volition did it in two.

1st : GTA4 sales great on both consoles.Who sells more depends on who you ask.They whould be extremely idiotic to go exclusive again and throw away millions.

2nd : Does anyone really care right now???GTA4 isn´t even out for 1 Month and there are more and more GTA5 treads...

Lol, maybe you already finished GTA IV, the reason why you're already talking about GTA V. Not that it's a bad thing, though. :)

I think the GTA series will go multiplatform. I mean, they're making a lot of money in ever platform they release the game. It's also good for it to be multiplatform so that a lot of people can play the game.

Most likely, it will remain multiplatform, so Rockstar can maximize their prophets. Frankly, I could care less, for all the money they make and all the game development experience they have, I don't see the series making any real evolution. It's taken them four GTA games to fully explore the range of features a sandbox should have, while Volition did it in two.

EnigManic

What "full range of features" are you even talking about? Saints Row 1 was basically a low budget version of GTA. Not a bad game, but also nothing special. Aside from the co op, I'm not seeing any real innovations or improvements to the genre in SR2.

What "full range of features" are you even talking about? Saints Row 1 was basically a low budget version of GTA. Not a bad game, but also nothing special. Aside from the co op, I'm not seeing any real innovations or improvements to the genre in SR2.
H3LLRaiseR

Saints Row WAS NOT a "version of GTA". It was a sandbox that explored a different aspect of the genre. (side note: there are plenty of RPGs out there, are they all Final Fantasy clones?) The GTA series are sandbox games that emulate popular gangster movies (Godfather, Scarface, Boyz in The Hood, etc.) while Saints Row 1 & 2 are sandboxes that explore full customization in an open-world environment. Two different series exploring different goals within the same genre. Maybe we should take this conversation to the "Saints Row 1" thread.

To stay on topic, the GTA games are badly overhyped. For all their good qualities and the fun gaming experiences they provide, when you look at the series as a whole, Rockstar has evolved it's gangster sandbox series very slowly. It shouldn't take four games to figure out what features work the best and what should be left out. Every new GTA game is the same old rehashed crap with some new window dressing.

Of course the GTA series will remain multiplatform. Rockstar makes more money that way. And that's all they really care about, big profits. They and EA are made for each other.

[QUOTE="H3LLRaiseR"]What "full range of features" are you even talking about? Saints Row 1 was basically a low budget version of GTA. Not a bad game, but also nothing special. Aside from the co op, I'm not seeing any real innovations or improvements to the genre in SR2.
EnigManic

Saints Row WAS NOT a "version of GTA". It was a sandbox that explored a different aspect of the genre. (side note: there are plenty of RPGs out there, are they all Final Fantasy clones?) The GTA series are sandbox games that emulate popular gangster movies (Godfather, Scarface, Boyz in The Hood, etc.) while Saints Row 1 & 2 are sandboxes that explore full customization in an open-world environment. Two different series exploring different goals within the same genre. Maybe we should take this conversation to the "Saints Row 1" thread.

To stay on topic, the GTA games are badly overhyped. For all their good qualities and the fun gaming experiences they provide, when you look at the series as a whole, Rockstar has evolved it's gangster sandbox series very slowly. It shouldn't take four games to figure out what features work the best and what should be left out. Every new GTA game is the same old rehashed crap with some new window dressing.

Of course the GTA series will remain multiplatform. Rockstar makes more money that way. And that's all they really care about, big profits. They and EA are made for each other.

If you can't see that Saints Row was an attempt to recreate GTA, then I'm not even going to bother arguing this any further. Even one of the developers said that they studied GTA and thought about the ways they could "improve" the game. And what do you know... Saints Row plays almost exactly like GTA with a few tweaks. Assasin's Creed and Ultimate Destruction are sandbox games that explored different areas of the genre. SR does not deserve that distinction.

If you can't see that Saints Row was an attempt to recreate GTA, then I'm not even going to bother arguing this any further. Even one of the developers said that they studied GTA and thought about the ways they could "improve" the game. And what do you know... Saints Row plays almost exactly like GTA with a few tweaks. Assasin's Creed and Ultimate Destruction are sandbox games that explored different areas of the genre. SR does not deserve that distinction.

H3LLRaiseR

Well said... I know there are a lot of Saint's Row fans out there, but I would imagine most of them aren't having any delusions about the game being original.

[QUOTE="H3LLRaiseR"]

If you can't see that Saints Row was an attempt to recreate GTA, then I'm not even going to bother arguing this any further. Even one of the developers said that they studied GTA and thought about the ways they could "improve" the game. And what do you know... Saints Row plays almost exactly like GTA with a few tweaks. Assasin's Creed and Ultimate Destruction are sandbox games that explored different areas of the genre. SR does not deserve that distinction.

rragnaar

Well said... I know there are a lot of Saint's Row fans out there, but I would imagine most of them aren't having any delusions about the game being original.

Yeah I surely hope not, and I'm tired of Enig telling me what to think of SR when I played through the game in its entirety. It was easily forgettable, and truly didn't add anything revolutionary or important to the genre, well besides maybe full co-op though I don't know if that was available in the first game. SR is such a GTA clone that it makes the others look original...I'd much rather play the Getaway.

... I'm tired of Enig telling me what to think of SR when I played through the game in its entirety. It was easily forgettable, and truly didn't add anything revolutionary or important to the genre, well besides maybe full co-op though I don't know if that was available in the first game. SR is such a GTA clone that it makes the others look original...I'd much rather play the Getaway.HiResDes

Tell you what to think? That sounds extremely hypocritical, considering you and other fanboys have been trying to convince people what to think about Saints row. I've said time and time again, TWO DIFFERENT CONCEPTS. Oh, I forgot, SR is a clone because it involves gangs. I'm sorry if that's the limit of your vision. For your assistance, I'll say it again. See if you have the courage to address the issues..

Number one: GTA focused on simply being a gangster sandbox. SR focused on customization.

Number two: SR2 makes giant improvements over SR. How much improvement does GTA4 make over SA or GTA3?

...flying off the handle and calling HiResDes a fanboy because he disagrees with you doesn't really do anything to turn this into a civil discussion.rragnaar

It may be constructive to ask who started this. Allow me to explain.

I used to love the GTA games. I love Saints Row, in spite of it's shortcomings. I understand it was Volition's first major project (at least that I'm aware of). I was sure they'd do much better on the second one. When I heard SR2 was under development, I started tracking it, absorbing every preview I could find, getting more psyched by the day. Meanwhile, I heard GTA4 was also under development. Cool. Leave it at that. Now go to the Saints Row 1 thread and read it from the very beginning. Who started flaming first? Someone asked about SR1, someone else recommended it and sugggested they check out SR2. The next thing you know, a bunch of GTA fanboys are flaming it and calling it a GTA clone. The game isn't even out yet, I'm recirculating what I've read about it and they're insisting that GTA4 is gonna be much better when they admittedly hadn't read the previews on SR2 yet. I didn't start flaming GTA4 til they all started flaming Saints Row. And even while I was flaming, I was spitting out all the content and features SR2 will have, while challenging them to list all the features and activites in GTA4. Instead of meeting my challenge, they just kept on flaming Saints Row.

As far "clones" go, I've said it a million times. Every great game has taken inspiration from other games. Here's how I recognize a truly great game:

1) Decent graphics by current standards. (they don't have to be the best.)

2) Originality. If the game's part of a series, how much improvement or innovation has it made over it's predecessor?

3) Open-ended play. Besides following the story, how much side content is there? Are those side activities and features plentiful, original and fun?

Well.. for one, Saint's Row is far from Volition's first project. Ever hear of Red Faction? ...besides that, trolling a GTA thread just because someone yelled at you in a Saint's Row thread doesn't help. This whole issue isn't likely to go away. In the beginning of my official GTA4 thread you couldn't say much about the game without a few select folks saying, 'yeah, well Saint's Row did it first...' which in turn caused GTA people to say that 'Saint's Row was nothing but a knock off of GTA to begin with so it doesn't matter what Saint's Row did first'. Neither side is going to back down from their respective arguments, and as someone who is a big GTA fan and tried to get into Saint's Row when it came out, I can honestly say that I have no respect for the series, even though I've liked Volition's work in the past. When I tried to play it, it felt like a superficial shell in comparison to GTA. I see nothing that will change my mind about that. It is my opinion, and that is ok. Just like you have your opinion and that is ok.

Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean they are a fanboy. Too many people are quick to throw around that particular 'f' word.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]...flying off the handle and calling HiResDes a fanboy because he disagrees with you doesn't really do anything to turn this into a civil discussion.EnigManic

It may be constructive to ask who started this. Allow me to explain.

I used to love the GTA games. I love Saints Row, in spite of it's shortcomings. I understand it was Volition's first major project (at least that I'm aware of). I was sure they'd do much better on the second one. When I heard SR2 was under development, I started tracking it, absorbing every preview I could find, getting more psyched by the day. Meanwhile, I heard GTA4 was also under development. Cool. Leave it at that. Now go to the Saints Row 1 thread and read it from the very beginning. Who started flaming first? Someone asked about SR1, someone else recommended it and sugggested they check out SR2. The next thing you know, a bunch of GTA fanboys are flaming it and calling it a GTA clone. The game isn't even out yet, I'm recirculating what I've read about it and they're insisting that GTA4 is gonna be much better when they admittedly hadn't read the previews on SR2 yet. I didn't start flaming GTA4 til they all started flaming Saints Row. And even while I was flaming, I was spitting out all the content and features SR2 will have, while challenging them to list all the features and activites in GTA4. Instead of meeting my challenge, they just kept on flaming Saints Row.

As far "clones" go, I've said it a million times. Every great game has taken inspiration from other games. Here's how I recognize a truly great game:

1) Decent graphics by current standards. (they don't have to be the best.)

2) Originality. If the game's part of a series, how much improvement or innovation has it made over it's predecessor?

3) Open-ended play. Besides following the story, how much side content is there? Are those side activities and features plentiful, original and fun?

So... you're mad because people had awful things to say about Saints Row in a thread asking for opinions on Saints Row? And in retaliation you take jabs at GTA in totally unrelated threads?

So... you're mad because people had awful things to say about Saints Row in a thread asking for opinions on Saints Row? And in retaliation you take jabs at GTA in totally unrelated threads?

H3LLRaiseR

:lol:... that's about the size of it.

...When I tried to play it, it felt like a superficial shell in comparison to GTA. I see nothing that will change my mind about that. It is my opinion, and that is ok. Just like you have your opinion and that is ok.

Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean they are a fanboy. Too many people are quick to throw around that particular 'f' word.rragnaar

You make a good point, but you are blatantly ignoring a good point I made:

Every great game has taken inspiration from other games.EnigManic

So quit calling it a "GTA clone" and the flame war will go away. In relation to "fanboys", it is what it is. If you praise one game while flaming it's rival without reviewing that game objectively, then you're a fanboy.

As repeatedly stated in the past, Saints Row explored the open-world sandbox genre while focusing on customization. It had it's hits and misses. The second game in the series makes a world of improvement and innovation to that formula. So if you enjoy the game and appreciate what it accomplishes over the first one, cool.

This flame war will never end as long as people continue to call it a clone instead of acknowledging that it was inspired by GTA but went in a different direction and then improved on itself.

[QUOTE="H3LLRaiseR"]So you're mad because people had awful things to say about Saints Row in a thread asking for opinions on Saints Row? And in retaliation you take jabs at GTA in totally unrelated threads?rragnaar

:lol:... that's about the size of it.

Not quite. People were discussing Saints Row and then others started flaming the game and comparing it to GTA. Get your facts straight.

This isn't a flame war. I'm sitting here watching cartoons and, generally speaking, having a good time. I'm miles away from flaming. Why are you so certain SR2 will be better? Have you played it by chance? I doubt it. Notice that I've made no claims about whether or not SR2 will be any good, because I would have nothing to base those claims on. I have however played the crap out of GTA4 and it is miles beyond Saint's Row. You seem to really like the customization element of Saint's Row, and for me, that is why the game felt hollow. The lack of a strong lead character really made the game tedious for me. Not everyone wants the same things out of a game, and the things that make me happy about GTA mght not work for you, and the things that make you happy about Saint's Row didn't work for me.

If you read HiResDes's posts and mine, we've both played Saint's Row, so your argument that we are fanboys until we've taken a fair look at both games doesn't make sense. I have a feeling that, in your mind, we are fanboys until we agree with you.

...Why are you so certain SR2 will be better? Have you played it by chance? I doubt it. Notice that I've made no claims about whether or not SR2 will be any good, because I would have nothing to base those claims on...rragnaar

Incidently, I have played GTA4. As I mentioned earlier in the other thread, my brother has it. I continue to debate that SR2 will be better in terms of how much it improves on the first one, while GTA4 has not made as much improvement over SA.

...I have however played the crap out of GTA4 and it is miles beyond Saint's Row...rragnaar

So you're comparing GTA4 to Saints Row, instead of comparing it to SR2?

So you're comparing GTA4 to Saints Row, instead of comparing it to SR2?

EnigManic

:lol:... you aren't a very pleasant person are you? This will be my last response to your posts. Yes, I'm comparing GTA4 to Saint's Row because I've played both games, so it is fair for me to be able to make comparisons. I haven't played SR2 and I haven't read anything about it, so it isn't fair for me to make any comparisons between GTA4 and SR2.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="H3LLRaiseR"]So you're mad because people had awful things to say about Saints Row in a thread asking for opinions on Saints Row? And in retaliation you take jabs at GTA in totally unrelated threads?EnigManic

:lol:... that's about the size of it.

Not quite. People were discussing Saints Row and then others started flaming the game and comparing it to GTA. Get your facts straight.

No one in this thread said a word about SR until you did...

[QUOTE="EnigManic"]So you're comparing GTA4 to Saints Row, instead of comparing it to SR2?rragnaar

...Yes, I'm comparing GTA4 to Saint's Row because I've played both games, so it is fair for me to be able to make comparisons. I haven't played SR2 and I haven't read anything about it, so it isn't fair for me to make any comparisons between GTA4 and SR2.

Then perhaps you shouldn't make any comparisons at all. Comparing GTA4 to Saints Row is like comparing Halo 2 to Perfect Dark.

Then perhaps you shouldn't make any comparisons at all. Comparing GTA4 to Saints Row is like comparing Halo 2 to Perfect Dark.

EnigManic

Bad example. Because aside from graphics, PD would actually compare very favorably to Halo 2.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="EnigManic"]So you're comparing GTA4 to Saints Row, instead of comparing it to SR2?EnigManic

...Yes, I'm comparing GTA4 to Saint's Row because I've played both games, so it is fair for me to be able to make comparisons. I haven't played SR2 and I haven't read anything about it, so it isn't fair for me to make any comparisons between GTA4 and SR2.

Then perhaps you shouldn't make any comparisons at all. Comparing GTA4 to Saints Row is like comparing Halo 2 to Perfect Dark.

I realize I said I wasn't going to respond to your blatant trolling anymore, but I have to... this post of your is just soooo illogical that it needed to be addressed. Perfect Dark was an N64 game. Halo 2 was an Xbox game. They are worlds apart chronogically, and technologically. Saint's Row and GTA4 came out in the same generation, on a seemingly level playing field. The fact that you are saying I shouldn't compare GTA4 to Saint's Row just backs up my own personal opinions that the games are miles apart from a quality standpoint and that a fight between Saint's Row and GTA4 isn't a fair fight... and for once, we seemingly agree. Alas, you are a troll and you've baited me into responding to you once again. I don't honestly believe that you were thinking straight when you said that comparing GTA4 and SR is like comparing Halo 2 to Perfect Dark. It did nothing to help your argument.

...a fight between Saint's Row and GTA4 isn't a fair fight... and for once, we seemingly agree...I don't honestly believe that you were thinking straight when you said that comparing GTA4 and SR is like comparing Halo 2 to Perfect Dark. It did nothing to help your argument.rragnaar

Actually it did, since you agreed with me that comparing GTA4 to Saints Row isn't a fair fight.

This is beyond pathetic. I'm bailing out. Have fun defending this game to the death. It won't love you back.rragnaar

Are you going to factually support that opinion?

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]This is beyond pathetic. I'm bailing out. Have fun defending this game to the death. It won't love you back.EnigManic

Are you going to factually support that opinion?

:lol:... you are comedy gold. I didn't realize that you were actually just pretending to be a troll for the sake of satire. Carry on.

[QUOTE="EnigManic"][QUOTE="H3LLRaiseR"]No one in this thread said a word about SR until you did... H3LLRaiseR

Actually, I was referring to the Saints Row 1 thread. Take your foot out of your mouth.

Don't blame me because you suck at expressing yourself. That comment of yours made no sense if thats what you were referring to.

Are you even proofreading what you type?