Will Next Gen consoles really be a graphical leap then current gen?

I'm not sure how the graphics from this gen could get any better given the specs and how crazy good some of these future looking titles for xbox 360/ps3 looks it just doesn't seem like it will be better as far as visuals go?

I'm expecting more high-resolution textures, much better frame rates, and better anti-aliasing.  Not a graphical "leap", just a very nice and noticeable improvement. 

Games have not anywhere near peaked in terms of graphics. Look at the pics below! In just a fraction of a second any sane human can tell which pic is from a movie and which one is from a game. As long as that is true there is work to do. There is also a lot to do in terms of how interactive the worlds are, AI, number of characters/objects on screen, etc and these things also take power to achieve. Next gen may not be as big of a jump as earlier ones, but I expect some pleasent suprises for sure :).

This is what you should expect from next gen. If this looks like a big graphical leap to you then there is your answer.

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http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p203/Th3_KraNe/1313.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m56pb2Mdjk1qdny4ho1_500.gif

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3tu4hb7zx3E/UHNlk7FpOBI/AAAAAAAAC20/cr5iSHndM28/s1600/Big+Boss3.gif

And maybe two three years into the gen, something like this. 

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No leaps. Just improvement on existing technology. Anyone expecting a leap would be disappointed.

i really hope so. otherwise i don't see much point in getting a next gen system since the most noticeable improvements each gen are the graphics. hell i still feel like they don't fully utilize the capabilities of the current gen systems other than a select few games.

I'm not sure how the graphics from this gen could get any better given the specs and how crazy good some of these future looking titles for xbox 360/ps3 looks it just doesn't seem like it will be better as far as visuals go?

Encognito_Mr_BC

Type in Crysis 3, Star Wars 1313, and Watch Dogs on google and look at the graphics on those games.

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I'm not sure how the graphics from this gen could get any better given the specs and how crazy good some of these future looking titles for xbox 360/ps3 looks it just doesn't seem like it will be better as far as visuals go?

crimsonman1245

Type in Crysis 3, Star Wars 1313, and Watch Dogs on google and look at the graphics on those games.

I know Crysis 3 and Watch Dogs have been confirmed for the PS3, even the MGS5 is going to be on current gen...I hope the conference on the 20th can show us a taste of what next gen graphics can be. The end of the cycle of a console can show the power in the games but those games look amazing...don't see how it can get any better. I do think it's impossible for photorealism but who would want those kind of visuals anyway?

I'm not sure how big a leap it will be. But, if the tech-oriented graphics are sharper, clearer, less muddy? I'm happy. Games with less complicated graphics like Eternal Sonata or say, FIFA 11, already look great on current-gen consoles. But, the tech-oriented ones tended to have compromises. If it's not a lackluster color pallete, it's poorer textures, lower resolutions, slow framerates, etc. The next-gen will address those and hopefully push beyond. Plus, the games can finally max out a 1080p TV.

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I'm not sure how the graphics from this gen could get any better given the specs and how crazy good some of these future looking titles for xbox 360/ps3 looks it just doesn't seem like it will be better as far as visuals go?

crimsonman1245

Type in Crysis 3, Star Wars 1313, and Watch Dogs on google and look at the graphics on those games.

I'm less interested in graphics than I am in using more memory to improve the open world RPG genre. The possibilities are endless.Black_Knight_00

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]I'm less interested in graphics than I am in using more memory to improve the open world RPG genre. The possibilities are endless.GodModeEnabled

I don't know what people expect "next gen" to be. It only really can be better textures (because of more VRAM, bandwidth and so on), better shader effects, post processing techniques etc and higher resolution for the entire engine to be rendered in.

Just look at the videos for Crysis 3's singleplayer on Youtube. That's pretty much the definition of a leap ahead of what you see on consoles. Higher texture resolution, better shader effects, new shader effects, improved post processing techniques in things like lighting, how different things interract with each other like for example shadows cast on volumetric fog, fog casting shadows, particle motion blur, particles lighting a scene, tesselation on vegetation. It's all just new techniques to make the games look gradually better when you see them first hand.

The current consoles do really basic things by today's standards. Basically expect the new consoles (if they have the power) to have games which make use of all the stuff you might find on some of the newer titles on a PC, then as time goes on developers will come up with new ways of adding new techniques to their game engines.

Games look good enough for me now to be honest so if next gen has a few better textures and effects then I'll be more than happy.I'm more interested in how games will be designed with all the extra power and memory consoles will have.Will we get more expansive games and not so many linear experiences.

They will be a massive leap. This gen has gone on longer than ever and technology hasn't slowed down one bit. I look at stuff like Final Fantasy XIII which is a great looking game, but there is still an immediate night and day difference between game engine cutscenes and pre-rendered ones. We've still got a long ways to go. Plus there's stuff like animation and physics that can see a huge bump and will do wonders.Senor_Kami

I'm sorry, but when this gen of consoles came out, there were no huge leap. ALot of the launchgames were atrocious (by the standards we have now). I suspect the same to happen again. All games look better, res is higher and better AA, then games will slowly improve again.

The next gen WILL look better, that is for certain, what is possible with the hardware is amazing, but expensive (and there is atleast one horse buried). But I do not predict a "jump" since the envioment in which games are created has changed (PC console multiplats as most games are). So Id say expect launch games on the console to be around Crysis 3 at around high on PC, and within a year this will improve quite a bit.

People always seem to sell graphics too high "not much room for improvement" is stated often, but Im sorry, try go look at the tech demos around, sure they are tech demos, but they are bids on how things CAN come to look. And the medium is only 30 or so years old, look at how far movies came from when that tech started till now, I think games will keep moving farwards aswell, untill it just gets too expensive.

However I DO think that we will see leaps outside graphics this gen aswell, the rumored number of cores in the consoles may lead to some decent ai development again. Which I am all too happy to accept over almost anything else.

I'm sorry, but when this gen of consoles came out, there were no huge leap. ALot of the launchgames were atrocious (by the standards we have now). I suspect the same to happen again. All games look better, res is higher and better AA, then games will slowly improve again.

The next gen WILL look better, that is for certain, what is possible with the hardware is amazing, but expensive (and there is atleast one horse buried). But I do not predict a "jump" since the envioment in which games are created has changed (PC console multiplats as most games are). So Id say expect launch games on the console to be around Crysis 3 at around high on PC, and within a year this will improve quite a bit.

People always seem to sell graphics too high "not much room for improvement" is stated often, but Im sorry, try go look at the tech demos around, sure they are tech demos, but they are bids on how things CAN come to look. And the medium is only 30 or so years old, look at how far movies came from when that tech started till now, I think games will keep moving farwards aswell, untill it just gets too expensive.

However I DO think that we will see leaps outside graphics this gen aswell, the rumored number of cores in the consoles may lead to some decent ai development again. Which I am all too happy to accept over almost anything else.

Maddie_Larkin

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]I'm less interested in graphics than I am in using more memory to improve the open world RPG genre. The possibilities are endless.Black_Knight_00

This is what you should expect from next gen. If this looks like a big graphical leap to you then there is your answer.

http://i.minus.com/ibcUynCutGtfED.gif

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p203/Th3_KraNe/1313.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m56pb2Mdjk1qdny4ho1_500.gif

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3tu4hb7zx3E/UHNlk7FpOBI/AAAAAAAAC20/cr5iSHndM28/s1600/Big+Boss3.gif

And maybe two three years into the gen, something like this. 

http://i.minus.com/iBtEppo6Z0YMg.gif

 

EDIT: Edited gifs to show as links.

S0lidSnake

It won't be a leap but it'll certainly be a noticeable improvement. As good as the graphical capabilities are today they still have a lot of room for improvements, just look at any number of games that have prerendered cinemas.Archangel3371

And the medium is only 30 or so years old, look at how far movies came from when that tech started till now, I think games will keep moving farwards aswell, untill it just gets too expensive.Maddie_Larkin