Will the heart of Gabe Newell failure because of too much Cholesterol?

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Poll Will the heart of Gabe Newell failure because of too much Cholesterol? (5 votes)

Yup. May god have mercy on the fat bastards rotten soul. 80%
Nope. Gabe is King. Gabe is President. Gabe is God. Gabe never dies. STEAM forever! 20%

I got the idea STEAM went down the gutter already, long before i even realized this video exists.

It doesn´t matters if it´s about STEAM-Fanboys wanting an update on as to how they can vote on games, with having a third voting-option besides "Positive" and "Negative" and how STEAM actually cares more about giving gamers a "funny"-voting option on other user-reviews, it doesn´t matters if it´s about similiar cases like "THE SINKING CITY" with STEAM giving a flying fu** about devs nor consumers and it even doesn´t matter how STEAM just doesn´t care about having a "useless" stash of probably about 1000s of 1-man-asset-production-trash-games being total crap not even worth 1 buck but actually being sold for 10 or even more.

All they care these days is money and power....while getting fatter and lazier as well. This just doesn´t look good when it comes to Gabe´s heart condition and i hope he is checking on it on a regular basis!

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#1 WladolfPutler
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THUNDER TIER ONE being another great example of the things you better should be prepared for, when buying games on a downright shitty site such as STEAM.

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#2 mrbojangles25
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Care to elaborate with some information, or is this just a rant?

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#3 Maroxad
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Steam, whether you like it or not. Has done more good than harm for the gaming industry.

Steam, gave indie devs a platform, which allowed indie devs to reach the mainstream audience. And steam and their DD model was largely what was responsible for the indie boom. Desura was great and all, but in the end it could not sustain itself financially. Nor did it reach into the mainstream.

When I first started posting on these boards, I did so with the intent of promoting indie games that people would otherwise miss. But with thanks to Steam making changes to their platform I no longer see the need to do so.

Ironically enough, Nintendo are doing the exact same thing in promoting indie games with their Nindies program. I guess it is no wonder I am such a PC/Nintendo gamer :P

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Care to elaborate with some information, or is this just a rant?

The information is there, you just have to grab it, but it seems you´re not really willing to do so, so i ask myself:

a.) You don´t like rants or you think rants are point- and useless? That means you´re someone who never ranted about sumthin his whole entire life?

b.) On a serious note...are you even interested in this subject or are you for some reason just asking for my attention?

If a.) appeals to you, then chances are high you´re just a hypocrite while there is no point in arguing with you.

If you´re more the b.)-type of guy, then there is really no point in arguing with you as well.

@Maroxad said:

Steam, whether you like it or not.

Has done more good than harm for the gaming industry.

.) This ain´t a question as to whether or not someone likes STEAM. This is about STEAM giving a flying fu** about consumers and not being the kind of company they were back the days when HALF-LIFE was made.

.) You said it yourself. They HAVE DONE more good than harm. Now they´re doing harm in all kinds of serious ways and time will show if that harm is at some point exceeding all the good they have done in the past.

Power corrupts. That´s natural and nothing evil at all, so calm down people.

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#5  Edited By outworld222
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I’ve always liked STEAM more than Epic, even more than GOG, but I fear you may be right. Hopefully Gabe is doing ok despite the cholesterol. And as much as I like Steam, I fear you may be right about your thoughts.

It’s all about the employees. The fault doesn’t seem to lie with Gabe. STEAM needs to hire some well intentioned employees, and I guess everything will be better then.

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#7  Edited By RSM-HQ
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I have many problems with Steam but it is as noted above an overall positive to the gaming industry. GoG is my go-to though Steam has many advantages, namely in sales and community features. Now my thoughts on Valve are all over the place. A vocal bunch act like they've only done good things for gaming as a developer, I think they're hit-and-miss. Some standout games, some meh, and some straight-up forgettable products.

I'm not giving details on why to the above because it has been beaten to death. . Valve fans can also leave one breathless so I'd prefer not to go down that rabbit-hole again. I've discussed my feelings on the subject too often to elaborate.

Valve isn't a bad company, they're just doing what's smart for business, and the games are fine. Usually.

On a final note going back to Valve as a developer; personally was always a bigger fan of id Software & Epic and felt they pushed P.C. gaming more to the masses initially in a positive light. D00M, Unreal, and Quake are known to many and remembered fondly.

Which is a shame that Epic get so much negativity, many Valve fans really hate Fortnite, usually because it's an addiction for idiots.

But if Fortnite was a Valve IP they wouldn't even bat an eye. Just like hats in Team Fortress 2 or skin gambling in CS:GO_

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#8 WladolfPutler
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@outworld222 said:

It’s all about the employees.

Not sure if steam-forum-moderators are really employees or just the same kind of real bad "moderator-memes" who are playing "king-of-the-castle" in most forums these days.

@girlusocrazy said:

Under crappier people Steam could have been much worse and much more constrictive.

Uhm there actually are crappier and worse people "working" for Steam but probably not really being paid coz their "payment" is that what every forum moderator in forums is getting. "Virtual Power", rather than money.

And so of course there are certain self-righteous dorks there:

I was making this "funny thread" about more than a year ago. Then there came this funny moderator who claimed my thread having "troll-qualities".

So what was his next move? He banned me for a week, but left my thread open, for all others to post in it.

Well, since my thread obviously ain´t having "troll qualities" after all i guess, i just got back to it after my ban and continued right where i stopped...with making "fun".

Now the same mod came back and banned me again, with the ban taking 2 or 3 weeks now and guess what? LOL, the "troll thread" still wasn´t closed.

Well, i kept doing what i did, and he kept banning me every single time, so i got banned several times in a row, with every ban taking up more time.

Guess how long my latest ban is (still!) taking? 1 Year! LMAO. I remember the ban getting lifted somewhere this July.

This was the last thing on Steam, giving me the idea that at least the Steam-Forums for sure, are no place to be taken any serious, so they can ban me as much as they want, the community is more or less DEAD to me anyway.

@RSM-HQ said:

Which is a shame that Epic get so much negativity, many Valve fans really hate Fortnite, usually because it's an addiction for idiots.

I wonder if todays Valve Fans were to some part actually the same haters who hated Steam 25 years ago, when Steam/Valve was being hated for offering digital content.

I still remember as if it had been just yesteray, Steam was being THE target for all those old-school-gamers and collectors, or people who hated the thought of games being distributed digitally only.

Nonetheless, those Steam-Haters back the days were exactly as hateful and bad as the typical haters of these days and if i remember right, the term "hater" didn´t even existed yet, back the days.

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@wladolfputler: just for clarification, I never meant Steam forum moderators, I meant like the actual people who run Steam. I actually think the moderators job is free?? Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. But Steam is making a lot of money, I would think. All I’m saying is they should do what’s good for the consumer. It’s not that difficult a concept actually.

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@outworld222 said:

@wladolfputler: just for clarification, I never meant Steam forum moderators, I meant like the actual people who run Steam.

The subject is Valve/Steam not caring about its consumers anymore, so when self-righteous Steam-Forum moderators are doing rather more or less questionable things, then it is irrelevant if it´s about paid employees doing some damage to consumers or freelance forum-sheriffs lookin for their own way of law & order while fu**ing with consumers, it just shows how much or less Valve/Steam cares about consumers after all, so of course...

...if a company doesn´t really care much about actual paying consumers, they care even less about users who "just" post in their forum with actually not spending any money on it.

So when it comes to Steam-Forum moderators, it is mostly just the same bunch of victimized avengers looking for their own way of revenge, while calling it "law & order".

@outworld222 said:

@wladolfputler: But Steam is making a lot of money, I would think. All I’m saying is they should do what’s good for the consumer. It’s not that difficult a concept actually.

With money comes power and power corrupts. It is really that easy and no mystery at all.

Now why should Steam do something for consumers, when they already have so much power and even more money?

You really think they don´t do HALF-LIFE 3 because "they just want it to be so special and they´re afraid they cannot deliver!"?

They simply don´t care anymore at all and HALF-LIFE: ALYX was more or less something like to show the world "Even that we are so fat´n lazy and don´t care about you all, we still can do something special...if we want!", which also explains the project being VR-Only.