You are now in 1993, your parents will only buy you either a 3DO or a Jaguar

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#1 ohthemanatee
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you do NOT own an 8 bit console

you do NOT own a 16 bit console

you do NOT own a gaming computer

you will not own another console until next gen (PS2, Xbox, Gamecube)

which console do you choose and why?

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#2 Eikichi-Onizuka
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3DO Both have a few decent games but the Jaguar controller looks terrible.
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I liked my 3DO -super wing commander -******Star Control 2****** (pure awesome) -return fire -the horde -there was also a combat racing game I liked
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3DO Both have a few decent games but the Jaguar controller looks terrible.Eikichi-Onizuka

Agreed. No way I want to play games on this.

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Wasn't the 3DO 700$ when it came out?

No way would my parents pay for that.

Guess I'm going with a Jaguar...

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#6 Devil-Itachi
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3DO because of the controller. Though the Jaguar system itself looks awesome in comparison to the black box. After a quick look at the libraries 3DO also seems to have stronger line up.
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#7 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

Wasn't the 3DO 700$ when it came out?

No way would my parents pay for that.

Guess I'm going with a Jaguar...

The Goldstar 3DO was much cheaper than the Panasonic one
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#8 DeafNYCPlayer
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3DO, because I liked Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Samurai Shodown, John Madden Football and other 3DO games.
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#9 bultje112
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3do by a long shot. jaguar may have had 2 or 3 good games. 3do at at least a dozen of them and I could spend years with star controll 2 alone

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3DO cause of the game library.

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#11 bultje112
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[QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

Wasn't the 3DO 700$ when it came out?

No way would my parents pay for that.

Guess I'm going with a Jaguar...

rawsavon

The Goldstar 3DO was much cheaper than the Panasonic one

you think 600 is much cheaper than 700?

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#12 Wild_Card
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i dont know, i liked my jag back in the day, AVP,Iorn soldier and doom were great fun.But yea compaired to other more popular systems it had a over all weak library. unlike some people i had no problem with the controller.ugly sure but it worked fine.

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#13 Lode_Runner
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I can actually relate to this, because in 1993 I had sold off my previous game systems and was console-less. The answer? Neither. I knew both were going to be an utter waste of time and money back then, and I still think so (for those saying 3DO >> Jaguar, okay, sure, but that ain't saying much, especially considering how expensive both systems were back then).

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#14 testfactor888
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I owned both systems and preferred the 3DO. Just had more fun with the games
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jaguar for price, kasumi ninja, muntant penguins, doom, tempest 2000

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Assuming money is no object, 3DO for sure. It had good games. Need For Speed alone destroys the Jaguar catalogue.

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#18 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="bultje112"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

Wasn't the 3DO 700$ when it came out?

No way would my parents pay for that.

Guess I'm going with a Jaguar...

The Goldstar 3DO was much cheaper than the Panasonic one

you think 600 is much cheaper than 700?

...hmmm... I got mine for somewhere b/w $200 and $300
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#19 nameless12345
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Today I would say 3DO, but when I was a kid I would say Jaguar.

The Jaguar was actually quite exciting compared to the 16-bit consoles like SNES and Genesis due to pretty graphics, but it had poor support and some really bad games (like Kasumi Ninja for example). It did have a solid Doom port, Rayman and AvP, though.

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#20 kayoticdreamz
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never played the 3d0 but i had a jaguar only 4 games for it though lol
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#21 sayyy-gaa
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you do NOT own an 8 bit console

you do NOT own a 16 bit console

you do NOT own a gaming computer

you will not own another console until next gen (PS2, Xbox, Gamecube)

which console do you choose and why?

ohthemanatee

I would buy neither. If those were my only choices I probably would've spent more time doing homework or playing monopoly, but I would NOT spend $500+ for a VG console.

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#22 savebattery
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I have both systems and anyone who says Jaguar has a bad library hasn't played enough of its games. That said, 3DO gets a slight advantage due to Super Street Fighter II Turbo. I'm sick of teenagers on the internet making fun of systems and games they've never played just because of perception.
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#23 savebattery
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

you do NOT own an 8 bit console

you do NOT own a 16 bit console

you do NOT own a gaming computer

you will not own another console until next gen (PS2, Xbox, Gamecube)

which console do you choose and why?

sayyy-gaa

I would buy neither. If those were my only choices I probably would've spent more time doing homework or playing monopoly, but I would NOT spend $500+ for a VG console.

Jaguar was $250 dollars when it came out, and it had a price drop not far into its lifespan...
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#24 CollectingGamer
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Well i'm 30, so i was 13 in 93 and at the time i wanted a Jag becasue it seemed more like a normal console but with 64 BIT POWER YEA! But looking back now the 3DO is a lot funner I have both and enjoy using the 3dO more.

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#25 CollectingGamer
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I have both systems and anyone who says Jaguar has a bad library hasn't played enough of its games. That said, 3DO gets a slight advantage due to Super Street Fighter II Turbo. I'm sick of teenagers on the internet making fun of systems and games they've never played just because of perception.savebattery

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#26 Pink_Kikka
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What games did 3DO even have?
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What games did 3DO even have?Pink_Kikka
Road Rash , Need For Speed, Alone in The Dark , Killing Time, arguably the best version of Wolf3D , the best port (at the time) of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo , The best non Neo Geo version of Samurai Shodown , Gex , Doom. there are others too, but since ive never owned the system , I don't have any extensive knowledge about its library.
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#28 Pink_Kikka
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Well in that case I'd go with 3DO.
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Well i'm 30, so i was 13 in 93 and at the time i wanted a Jag becasue it seemed more like a normal console but with 64 BIT POWER YEA! But looking back now the 3DO is a lot funner I have both and enjoy using the 3dO more.

CollectingGamer

It wasn't really 64-bit, though. More like early 32-bit and they said it was 64-bit because it had two 16-bit processors and one 32-bit processor.

Jaguar also had no dedicated 3D hardware meaning it's 3D performance was a lot worse than Sega Saturn and PS1.

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#30 Darkman2007
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Well in that case I'd go with 3DO.Pink_Kikka
obviously most of these games are on other systems, but in all of these cases, the 3DO version was the original (Road Rash , Need For Speed , Killing Time) , or the best at the time (Wolf3D SSF2Turbo)
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[QUOTE="CollectingGamer"]

Well i'm 30, so i was 13 in 93 and at the time i wanted a Jag becasue it seemed more like a normal console but with 64 BIT POWER YEA! But looking back now the 3DO is a lot funner I have both and enjoy using the 3dO more.

nameless12345

It wasn't really 64-bit, though. More like early 32-bit and they said it was 64-bit because it had two 16-bit processors and one 32-bit processor.

Jaguar also had no dedicated 3D hardware meaning it's 3D performance was a lot worse than Sega Saturn and PS1.

I thought people knew the whole "bit" issue was overblown , far , far beyong proportion , and means nearly nothing . The Xbox was a 32bit system , but was obviously far more powerful then the N64.
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I remember my friend got a Panasonic 3DO for Christmas. What a spectacular piece of ****. His old man owned an electronics store so they had all types of hilarious things like laser disc and minidisc players
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I remember my friend got a Panasonic 3DO for Christmas. What a spectacular piece of ****. His old man owned an electronics store so they had all types of hilarious things like laser disc and minidisc playerswstfld
wait , your friend had a 3DO and a laserdisc player?????? how can anyone dislike that.....
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#34 kingdavid562
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jaguar.. for tempest 2000... i already have the ps1 version.. but i would like to play it with that crappy looking jaguar controller someday:)

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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="CollectingGamer"]

Well i'm 30, so i was 13 in 93 and at the time i wanted a Jag becasue it seemed more like a normal console but with 64 BIT POWER YEA! But looking back now the 3DO is a lot funner I have both and enjoy using the 3dO more.

Darkman2007

It wasn't really 64-bit, though. More like early 32-bit and they said it was 64-bit because it had two 16-bit processors and one 32-bit processor.

Jaguar also had no dedicated 3D hardware meaning it's 3D performance was a lot worse than Sega Saturn and PS1.

I thought people knew the whole "bit" issue was overblown , far , far beyong proportion , and means nearly nothing . The Xbox was a 32bit system , but was obviously far more powerful then the N64.

Of course, bits don't really tell much. But back then the number of bits was used to portray how powerful a console is, hence the 16-bit wars, 32-bit wars, Atari Jaguar "64-bit graphics" and Nintendo 64.

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

It wasn't really 64-bit, though. More like early 32-bit and they said it was 64-bit because it had two 16-bit processors and one 32-bit processor.

Jaguar also had no dedicated 3D hardware meaning it's 3D performance was a lot worse than Sega Saturn and PS1.

nameless12345

I thought people knew the whole "bit" issue was overblown , far , far beyong proportion , and means nearly nothing . The Xbox was a 32bit system , but was obviously far more powerful then the N64.

Of course, bits don't really tell much. But back then the number of bits was used to portray how powerful a console is, hence the 16-bit wars, 32-bit wars, Atari Jaguar "64-bit graphics" and Nintendo 64.

I can imagine all the programmers just laughing at the kids for believing the marketing
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#37 SelVis52
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Tough one because neither one of these systems were ever really that desirable. I guess Jaguar just because it's the jaguar :D

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[QUOTE="CollectingGamer"]

Well i'm 30, so i was 13 in 93 and at the time i wanted a Jag becasue it seemed more like a normal console but with 64 BIT POWER YEA! But looking back now the 3DO is a lot funner I have both and enjoy using the 3dO more.

nameless12345

It wasn't really 64-bit, though. More like early 32-bit and they said it was 64-bit because it had two 16-bit processors and one 32-bit processor.

Jaguar also had no dedicated 3D hardware meaning it's 3D performance was a lot worse than Sega Saturn and PS1.

None of which reflects upon the quality of the actual games. Play Rayman, Raiden, Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Tempest 2000, Zool 2, Super Burnout, and Alien vs Predator and then talk to me about the Jaguar.
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In a choice between those two. I would have choosen the 3DO since back then The 32-bit era was dawning. The 699.00 Panasonic 3DO seemed like it could have "made it" back then. There was not way I'd ever get a $700.00 gift from my parents ever. Plus the price of a game or two and a extra controller. Not my Parents in 1993 or Ever.

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[QUOTE="CollectingGamer"]

Well i'm 30, so i was 13 in 93 and at the time i wanted a Jag becasue it seemed more like a normal console but with 64 BIT POWER YEA! But looking back now the 3DO is a lot funner I have both and enjoy using the 3dO more.

nameless12345

It wasn't really 64-bit, though. More like early 32-bit and they said it was 64-bit because it had two 16-bit processors and one 32-bit processor.

Jaguar also had no dedicated 3D hardware meaning it's 3D performance was a lot worse than Sega Saturn and PS1.

Oh i know man, i was just showing you what i thought when i was a kid.

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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="CollectingGamer"]

Well i'm 30, so i was 13 in 93 and at the time i wanted a Jag becasue it seemed more like a normal console but with 64 BIT POWER YEA! But looking back now the 3DO is a lot funner I have both and enjoy using the 3dO more.

savebattery

It wasn't really 64-bit, though. More like early 32-bit and they said it was 64-bit because it had two 16-bit processors and one 32-bit processor.

Jaguar also had no dedicated 3D hardware meaning it's 3D performance was a lot worse than Sega Saturn and PS1.

None of which reflects upon the quality of the actual games. Play Rayman, Raiden, Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Tempest 2000, Zool 2, Super Burnout, and Alien vs Predator and then talk to me about the Jaguar.

personally I think Alien Versus Predator aged really badly

although I'd really like to play skyhammer one day

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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] I thought people knew the whole "bit" issue was overblown , far , far beyong proportion , and means nearly nothing . The Xbox was a 32bit system , but was obviously far more powerful then the N64.Darkman2007

Of course, bits don't really tell much. But back then the number of bits was used to portray how powerful a console is, hence the 16-bit wars, 32-bit wars, Atari Jaguar "64-bit graphics" and Nintendo 64.

I can imagine all the programmers just laughing at the kids for believing the marketing

Well it wasn't all just marketing. 16-bit consoles did bring "twice the graphics and sound" (or even more) compared to 8-bit ones. And Genesis' "Blast-processing", despite the ridiculous name, had some real basis since Genesis' CPU was really twice faster than SNES' CPU.

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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="CollectingGamer"]

Well i'm 30, so i was 13 in 93 and at the time i wanted a Jag becasue it seemed more like a normal console but with 64 BIT POWER YEA! But looking back now the 3DO is a lot funner I have both and enjoy using the 3dO more.

savebattery

It wasn't really 64-bit, though. More like early 32-bit and they said it was 64-bit because it had two 16-bit processors and one 32-bit processor.

Jaguar also had no dedicated 3D hardware meaning it's 3D performance was a lot worse than Sega Saturn and PS1.

None of which reflects upon the quality of the actual games. Play Rayman, Raiden, Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Tempest 2000, Zool 2, Super Burnout, and Alien vs Predator and then talk to me about the Jaguar.

I actually played those games and I can say that Rayman was a nice platformer with good graphics, Raiden a solid shmup, Doom a so-so port with no gameplay music, Wolfenstein 3D had good graphics and sound but was worse than the DOS PC original, Tempest a solid puzzle game, Zool 2 an average platformer and Super Burnout a solid racer. Nothing to rave about, really.

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Definitely the 3DO because it does actually have a few good games.

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Definitely the 3DO because it does actually have a few good games.

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the jaguar does have good games as well... although...yeah i'd rather the 3do as well
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[QUOTE="travisstaggs"]

Definitely the 3DO because it does actually have a few good games.

ohthemanatee
the jaguar does have good games as well... although...yeah i'd rather the 3do as well

Oh I know it does, but it just seems like the 3DO has more. Also the 3DO controller is a lot better than the Jaguar one.
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The 3DO simply had a better game. I donot consider it a bad console as I do the CDI or the Jaguar, however its certainly not the best. Its got some good games, and it is surely better imo then the Jaguar.

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Tempest a solid puzzle gamenameless12345
Uhh.... What? Tempest? Puzzle game? Sorry, but you're not even close.
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]Tempest a solid puzzle gamesavebattery
Uhh.... What? Tempest? Puzzle game? Sorry, but you're not even close.

Yep to me Tempest was the only good game for the Atari Jaguar and it did get ports on other consoles. Tempest 2000 was a fun little game and it was not a Puzzle game, it was a fixed shooter, rail shooter possibly its been a long time since I have played this game though!

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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]Tempest a solid puzzle gameTheTrueMagusX1

Uhh.... What? Tempest? Puzzle game? Sorry, but you're not even close.

Yep to me Tempest was the only good game for the Atari Jaguar and it did get ports on other consoles. Tempest 2000 was a fun little game and it was not a Puzzle game, it was a fixed shooter, rail shooter possibly its been a long time since I have played this game though!

what about games like Doom , Wolf3D, Alien vs Predetor and Iron Soldier?