you know what i've noticed

next generation gaming seems to be causing more problems than it even tried to solve. never once do i remember ps2/xbox/gamecube games having as many problems as ps3/360/wii games. maybe i'm wrong but if so it sure as hell made a whiney generation of gamers. all i see on the forums are complaint topics and hell i have even started a few. it just seems the advanced technology we are using has not yet been mastered or we are all asking for too much.

comments anyone?

next generation gaming seems to be causing more problems than it even tried to solve. never once do i remember ps2/xbox/gamecube games having as many problems as ps3/360/wii games. maybe i'm wrong but if so it sure as hell made a whiney generation of gamers. all i see on the forums are complaint topics and hell i have even started a few. it just seems the advanced technology we are using has not yet been mastered or we are all asking for too much.

comments anyone?

zeroskater1015

Well it would be a bit silly if there were nothing but "Everything's A-okay!" threads on the forums wouldnt it? Besides it seems obvious that the more complicted technology becomes the more chance there is of somthing going wrong.

I'm sure that if you looked at the forums around 2000-2001 it was probably very similar. New console generations don't get off to a smooth start. People will always find something to whine about, but if you ask me, next-gen gaming is getting really really good.rragnaar

I think what used to constitute the term console is dead, and has been replaced by something much closer to a PC. I think that's where a lot of the griping is coming from. It seems like every time I turn one of these things on, it wants to do something other than PLAY A GAME. It wants to update, or it wants to sell me something, or it wants to not work at all.

And speaking of not working, that's what I consider to be the biggest flaw of the generation outside of pricing. Consoles HAVE to work. If the PS2 was the first chink in the armor, then the 360 has been the entire suit being blown off Ghouls n' Ghosts style.

I think that's what annoys me most is that the price you pay at the time of purchase isn't the end. You'll pay far more as you go along, be it in time, grief, or greenbacks. That pisses me off a bit. Still, it's hard to stay too mad when you have a year of games like the one we are getting. Software-wise, this generation floored the gas and hit the nitro.

And speaking of not working, that's what I consider to be the biggest flaw of the generation outside of pricing. Consoles HAVE to work. If the PS2 was the first chink in the armor, then the 360 has been the entire suit being blown off Ghouls n' Ghosts style.

Shame-usBlackley

Yup. That's me right there. In the funny underwear. Hardware unreliability is precisely my main gripe nowadays.

:P

I think what used to constitute the term console is dead, and has been replaced by something much closer to a PC. I think that's where a lot of the griping is coming from. It seems like every time I turn one of these things on, it wants to do something other than PLAY A GAME. It wants to update, or it wants to sell me something, or it wants to not work at all.

Shame-usBlackley

The best way to learn the ins and outs of having a trouble-free PC is to build your own. A month looking at forums like guru3d, extremesystems, arstechnica, and you will easily gain a working knowledge of how to build, fix, and maintain a really good gaming PC. You'll learn when to avoid or ignore when it wants to update (like turning off auto updates for one) or do other things. Being such a well-versed gaming connoisseur you owe it to yourself, because your missing out on a lot. A whole lot. Just stay away from Vista atm. And I'm not a PC fanboy; I get accused of being a xbot far more often ;)

Right now, you'd probably be a lot happier just formatting your hard-drive and reinstalling XP. That will solve 90% of your problems right there.

Look at my system: I built it early 2002, put $300 in it for a new GPU and CPU ($100 for a cpu that was originally $1300) early this year, and it's still chugging along. I'm due for a new build (but I spent all my money on a new TV intstead lol ), but I'm still able to play new games like World in Conflict, The Witcher (incredible game), even Crysis on medium-ish settings.

I'm sure that if you looked at the forums around 2000-2001 it was probably very similar.  New console generations don't get off to a smooth start.  People will always find something to whine about, but if you ask me, next-gen gaming is getting really really good.rragnaar

I think people get their hopes up way too high this current generation of games. They expect absoloute perfect games with the best graphics/physics etc etc etc.
Facts are..the more complex and fancy that games become - the harder they are to make.
VinnoT

Well with the new technology, developers aren't taking full control of the machines. only some take the system to a new level. many developers program new games with old coding habits.

That and many developers, sadly, aren't really in it to make good games, they're in it to make money. and if they can make some overhyped game get lots of sales and still be somewhat crappy, they'll do it.

Well with the new technology, developers aren't taking full control of the machines. only some take the system to a new level. many developers program new games with old coding habits.

That and many developers, sadly, aren't really in it to make good games, they're in it to make money. and if they can make some overhyped game get lots of sales and still be somewhat crappy, they'll do it.

blooddemon666

I agree. Plus, the navigation of the game would be more complicated.

next generation gaming seems to be causing more problems than it even tried to solve. never once do i remember ps2/xbox/gamecube games having as many problems as ps3/360/wii games. maybe i'm wrong but if so it sure as hell made a whiney generation of gamers. all i see on the forums are complaint topics and hell i have even started a few. it just seems the advanced technology we are using has not yet been mastered or we are all asking for too much.

comments anyone?

zeroskater1015

I hated the numerous "disc read errors" last gen.

Yeah, just like Shameus put it, consoles are becoming more and more complicated. I think we have reached a point when consoles are as complex as they should ever be. Sure, graphics technology will and should evolve, but I really don't need to encode videos or use word on my console. Having consoles that can double as media centers is enough.nopalversion

I think that is why I love the simplicity of the Wii. I don't remember if someone posted it on this site, I saw it on the news section, or if I got it from somewhere else, but Satoru Iwata had stated that he sees Nintendo first and foremost a gaming company where he sees everybody else (Microsoft, Sony) as technology companies.

What problems? I dont see anything wrong with the next gen game platforms and games.HollisterGuy707

I think people get their hopes up way too high this current generation of games. They expect absoloute perfect games with the best graphics/physics etc etc etc.
Facts are..the more complex and fancy that games become - the harder they are to make.
VinnoT

. sometimes i miss the good ol days whe ngames like KH and GTA 3 were the norm now its like totally different but i guess tahts teh way it is some things change some things stay the same

I think what used to constitute the term console is dead, and has been replaced by something much closer to a PC. I think that's where a lot of the griping is coming from. It seems like every time I turn one of these things on, it wants to do something other than PLAY A GAME. It wants to update, or it wants to sell me something, or it wants to not work at all.

Shame-usBlackley

That is true to an extent, but the thing about PCs though is that there are nearly limitless possible PC configurations: Graphics cards, sound cards, OS, RAM, other software present on the sytem, and on and on. Game consoles are highly standardized. The biggest difference between XBox 360's functionality-wise should be whether it has a hard drive or not, and every PS3 has a hard drive. I already find the release-broken-and-patch-later mentality on PCs to be getting pretty old, but on consoles there is simply no excuse for it.

I think that maybe we (consumers) collectively expect(ed) too much from next-gen consoles, at least to this point in time, (thanks, in no small part, to console makers' marketing departments.)

The disappointment that many gamers feel with these so called 'Next-Gen' games is due to the different expectations that game buyers have vs. game makers... In short -

The term "Next-Gen" to gamers seems to mean 'amazing,epic-over-the-top-never-before-possible-gaming-goodness!!!11!!'.

The term"Next-Gen" to game developers seems to mean 'higher resolution (HD) graphics and improved character animations'.