Which of the following fighting games are your favorite and why?
Blazblue
Street Fighter 4
Soul Calibur 4
Tekken 6
Guilty Gear XXAccent Core
Virtua Fighter 5
Dead or Alive 4
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Which of the following fighting games are your favorite and why?
Blazblue
Street Fighter 4
Soul Calibur 4
Tekken 6
Guilty Gear XXAccent Core
Virtua Fighter 5
Dead or Alive 4
Street Fighter 4, tho to be fair i a havn't played the others in their current gen form so can't really tell but SF4 is simply the best current gen fighting game around!Which of the following fighting games are your favorite and why?
Blazblue
Street Fighter 4
Soul Calibur 4
Tekken 6
Guilty Gear XXAccent Core
Virtua Fighter 5
Dead or Alive 4
sonicthemegaman
Currently it's Dead or Alive 4. It's got excellent graphics, a pretty cool soundtrack, interesting cast of characters, fantastic multi-tiered stages to fight on, and I love the fighting system with it's countering. Street Fighter IV is definitely a fantastic game as well and runs a very, very close second.
Interesting, i rarely find someone like myself, who puts DOA up there with the best of them. I have always said the countering in DOA is very good and is a great dynamic to the gameplayCurrently it's Dead or Alive 4. It's got excellent graphics, a pretty cool soundtrack, interesting cast of characters, fantastic multi-tiered stages to fight on, and I love the fighting system with it's countering. Street Fighter IV is definitely a fantastic game as well and runs a very, very close second.
Archangel3371
Virtua Fighter 5. In terms of content, its a big step back from VF4 Evolution (which is weird because Evo was only $20 and VF5 is $60) but the combat system is incredibly deep and the characters perfectly balanced.
There really isn't a debate here- Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix is the best fighting game ever. Barring rereleases, Street Fighter 4 wins.
Currently it's Dead or Alive 4. It's got excellent graphics, a pretty cool soundtrack, interesting cast of characters, fantastic multi-tiered stages to fight on, and I love the fighting system with it's countering. Street Fighter IV is definitely a fantastic game as well and runs a very, very close second.
Archangel3371
More or less the exact same thing I was going to say. Well said.
DOA 4 1st and SF4 following behind for a close 2nd.
Which of the following fighting games are your favorite and why?
Blazblue
Street Fighter 4
Soul Calibur 4
Tekken 6
Guilty Gear XXAccent Core
Virtua Fighter 5
Dead or Alive 4
sonicthemegaman
I'm sad to see you didn't include SSBB. That's my favorite fighter this gen.
[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]
Which of the following fighting games are your favorite and why?
Blazblue
Street Fighter 4
Soul Calibur 4
Tekken 6
Guilty Gear XXAccent Core
Virtua Fighter 5
Dead or Alive 4
Mr_Nordquist
I'm sad to see you didn't include SSBB. That's my favorite fighter this gen.
Outside the genre. Does not qualify.Outside the genre. Does not qualify.DarkCatalyst
What about Super Smash Brothers doesn't make it a fighting game?
[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"]Outside the genre. Does not qualify.LikeHaterade
What about Super Smash Brothers doesn't make it a fighting game?
It's a brawler, that puts it in the classification of games alongside Powerstone, Kungfu Chaos, Ehrgeiz: God Bless The Ring, and so on. The Fighting genre came about when Street Fighter II was released, specifically in order to seperate it and other games like it (initially, Fatal Fury, Art of Fighting, Mortal Kombat, World Heroes, etc) from what everyone else was doing at the time. Back then, the main point of contention was beat-em-ups like Double Dragon, Streets of Rage, and Final Fight, whose fans used the same argument ("You fight, therefore it's a fighting game!") to try and squeeze into this new classification. Likewise, that's the argument Smash players used to squeeze their way into Evo (thank god that's over) and to try and convince others that real fighting games need to water themselves down (Street Fighter IV's success was a critical blow to them on that point). That said, a fighting game... -features only one player vs one player by default, with any multiplayer options being clearly off to the side (see Tekken Tag). -includes stages that only differ in basic shape, so that map selection doesn't offer any advantages/disadvantages*. -has no random elements by default. -must more closely resemble Street Fighter II by design than a game in any other genre**. *SoulCalibur IV is arguably in violation here due to the mileage some characters get out of stages that do not offer Ring Out, but seems to be holding up alright. **Platformers in Smash's case. Smash players try to overcome these rules by tweaking the options and setting highly restrictive rules at tournaments, but all they're doing is watering down their own game in order to try and get handouts from the fighting community. In the end, if you have to alter it in order to make it even so much as resemble a fighting game, it's not a fighting gameBtw, it's Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Saying a game has to conform to the structure of another game is simply childish, otherwise, all games would be SFII derivatives, which would suck. People can try to say that Brawl isn't a fighter but overall, it just shows a futile attempt to push down anything that is different in a genre. Let's take an example in another genre. Fallout 3 is an RPG, Final Fantasy 7 is an RPG, and people might say that Fallout 3 is a WRPG and FF7 a JRPG, but they're both RPG's who, thankfully, are both different in the most basic form.
It's all about the when and how. The fighting genre was born seperate with Street Fighter II. That is to say, Street Fighter II became the definition of the genre when it was made. It's as simple as that.Btw, it's Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Saying a game has to conform to the structure of another game is simply childish, otherwise, all games would be SFII derivatives, which would suck. People can try to say that Brawl isn't a fighter but overall, it just shows a futile attempt to push down anything that is different in a genre. Let's take an example in another genre. Fallout 3 is an RPG, Final Fantasy 7 is an RPG, and people might say that Fallout 3 is a WRPG and FF7 a JRPG, but they're both RPG's who, thankfully, are both different in the most basic form.
calvinsora
[QUOTE="calvinsora"]It's all about the when and how. The fighting genre was born seperate with Street Fighter II. That is to say, Street Fighter II became the definition of the genre when it was made. It's as simple as that.Btw, it's Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Saying a game has to conform to the structure of another game is simply childish, otherwise, all games would be SFII derivatives, which would suck. People can try to say that Brawl isn't a fighter but overall, it just shows a futile attempt to push down anything that is different in a genre. Let's take an example in another genre. Fallout 3 is an RPG, Final Fantasy 7 is an RPG, and people might say that Fallout 3 is a WRPG and FF7 a JRPG, but they're both RPG's who, thankfully, are both different in the most basic form.
DarkCatalyst
A conception of a genre doesn't state the construction of what follows except in the most rudimentary form. Indeed, there are games that are brawlers, but SSBB is not like any other brawler either, and doesn't resemble one in the slightest.
It's all about the when and how. The fighting genre was born seperate with Street Fighter II. That is to say, Street Fighter II became the definition of the genre when it was made. It's as simple as that.[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]
Btw, it's Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Saying a game has to conform to the structure of another game is simply childish, otherwise, all games would be SFII derivatives, which would suck. People can try to say that Brawl isn't a fighter but overall, it just shows a futile attempt to push down anything that is different in a genre. Let's take an example in another genre. Fallout 3 is an RPG, Final Fantasy 7 is an RPG, and people might say that Fallout 3 is a WRPG and FF7 a JRPG, but they're both RPG's who, thankfully, are both different in the most basic form.
calvinsora
A conception of a genre doesn't state the construction of what follows except in the most rudimentary form. Indeed, there are games that are brawlers, but SSBB is not like any other brawler either, and doesn't resemble one in the slightest.
Um...if SSBB isn't a "brawler" then why does it have "Brawl" in the title? :|[QUOTE="calvinsora"]
[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"] It's all about the when and how. The fighting genre was born seperate with Street Fighter II. That is to say, Street Fighter II became the definition of the genre when it was made. It's as simple as that.ASK_Story
A conception of a genre doesn't state the construction of what follows except in the most rudimentary form. Indeed, there are games that are brawlers, but SSBB is not like any other brawler either, and doesn't resemble one in the slightest.
Um...if SSBB isn't a "brawler" then why does it have "Brawl" in the title? :| So what your saying is, if a game has brawl in title its a brawler? I must remember this when I play Soccer Brawl, or Brawl Brothers.....:P[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"]Outside the genre. Does not qualify.DarkCatalyst
What about Super Smash Brothers doesn't make it a fighting game?
It's a brawler, that puts it in the classification of games alongside Powerstone, Kungfu Chaos, Ehrgeiz: God Bless The Ring, and so on. The Fighting genre came about when Street Fighter II was released, specifically in order to seperate it and other games like it (initially, Fatal Fury, Art of Fighting, Mortal Kombat, World Heroes, etc) from what everyone else was doing at the time. Back then, the main point of contention was beat-em-ups like Double Dragon, Streets of Rage, and Final Fight, whose fans used the same argument ("You fight, therefore it's a fighting game!") to try and squeeze into this new classification. Likewise, that's the argument Smash players used to squeeze their way into Evo (thank god that's over) and to try and convince others that real fighting games need to water themselves down (Street Fighter IV's success was a critical blow to them on that point). That said, a fighting game... -features only one player vs one player by default, with any multiplayer options being clearly off to the side (see Tekken Tag). -includes stages that only differ in basic shape, so that map selection doesn't offer any advantages/disadvantages*. -has no random elements by default. -must more closely resemble Street Fighter II by design than a game in any other genre**. *SoulCalibur IV is arguably in violation here due to the mileage some characters get out of stages that do not offer Ring Out, but seems to be holding up alright. **Platformers in Smash's case. Smash players try to overcome these rules by tweaking the options and setting highly restrictive rules at tournaments, but all they're doing is watering down their own game in order to try and get handouts from the fighting community. In the end, if you have to alter it in order to make it even so much as resemble a fighting game, it's not a fighting gameSo because you have a crap load of options on how to play SSBB then it's not a fighting game? Damn, I thought for sure I was fighting enemies in that game.
Your argument for why it isn't a fighting game is just terrible, and ignorant. You don't have items by default, you don't have huge levels by default. You have options that you can choose to turn on whenever you want to to change gameplay around.
[QUOTE="calvinsora"]
[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"] It's all about the when and how. The fighting genre was born seperate with Street Fighter II. That is to say, Street Fighter II became the definition of the genre when it was made. It's as simple as that.ASK_Story
A conception of a genre doesn't state the construction of what follows except in the most rudimentary form. Indeed, there are games that are brawlers, but SSBB is not like any other brawler either, and doesn't resemble one in the slightest.
Um...if SSBB isn't a "brawler" then why does it have "Brawl" in the title? :|:lol:
If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck. :P
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