Why do you think China is playing the middleman here...Its excatly what I would be doing. Either way you come up on topShinotoChina has condemned the tests and is working with members of the Security Council on methods of punishment for North Korea's actions.
I read about this. The Korean people are against this though, burning doll firgures of that dude behind it (yeah I forgot his name, sue me).lightmonkeyKim Jong Ill.
[QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.jetpower3
[QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.jetpower3
[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.jechtshot78
Selling nuclear missiles to countries that don't have it is highly profitable.
North Korea just wrapped the noose around their neck. They wont last long anymore. China, Russia, the EU, and America will soon take them down.
Good ol' Bush doesnt need an excuse this time :P. (B.T.W. Im republican)
Wasdie
[QUOTE="jechtshot78"][QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.Kama151
Selling nuclear missiles to countries that don't have it is highly profitable.
And just to add to that, the Bush administration's fear after September 11th is that rogue states like North Korea will sell WMD to terrorist organizations, some of which are willing to risk annhialation to achieve their ends.Ya you know Bush isn't afraid to use force and we know for a fact that they have WMDs... only thing is I just turned 18 and a draft would really really really really suck.North Korea just wrapped the noose around their neck. They wont last long anymore. China, Russia, the EU, and America will soon take them down.
Good ol' Bush doesnt need an excuse this time :P. (B.T.W. Im republican)
Wasdie
[QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.bc1391No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.
Complete nuclear disarmament is impossible in the world's current state. It's not like we as humans will be able to sweep it under the rug and pretend it's all going to go away. The West and the East both have nuclear weapons - if one goes then the other goes with them. Kim Jong-il probably wants America gone but of coarse he will have to answer to the Western block if he wants his way. I see nuclear weapons as his bargaining chip for outsider resources which while wrong, is the only way for him to maintain power along with economic and people's stability without losing what pride his nation has left.
If there were no nuclear weapons in existence then this would come as a shock to me but alas this world is already full of them. To be brutally honest, I am more afraid of America than North Korea for a multitude of reasons. I live in Europe and America holds a massive idealist swing not just in this region but around the whole world. The US says "jump" and we say we'll do it twice over. What i'm really afraid of is that other countries will be swayed by America's power and ideals which could result in catastrophe. If NK and the more extremist Arab nations strike, I am fearful that they won't just strike into the heart of America but its allies as well like South Korea, Britain, Japan and Israel. I couldn't care less if North Korea has WMDs. What I care more about is if the US is stupid enough to intervene and others swiftly follow.
Iran is much more of a threat in my eyes. The president Mahmoud Ahmedinejad is an extremist Muslim who, as previous posters have pointed out has claimed the Holocaust never happened and wants to wipe Israel and the USA of the world map. My fear is that he can easily sway what his peoples think and build warheads with Washington and Jerusalem's name on them. I doubt this predicament with Iran would be around today if Reagan hadn't intervened with the Iran-Iraq war (the CIA secretly sold weapons to Iraq to help win the war which eventually ended in a stalemate). Maybe we [the West and America] would of been in a better position if we just stayed out of it but alas America's lust for financial gain has a stranglehold on their decisions (as quoted from Wikipedia below)....
"Reagan decided that the United States "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran", and that the United States "would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran"
While it doesn't exclusively mean money would be gained (Iran's political state was extremist and anti-US in the first place because of their leader at the time), it was still stupid to intervene as no threat was immediate to the US apart from a few words from their crazed cleric leader. It is similar to todays leadership but now it is different - Iran are well on their way to having nukes and are willing to use them no matter how insane the reasons.
Another example is the Vietnam War. While I do think the war was pointless since the US technically lost, it was for a good cause which was defending the invaded country from the North - much like the Korean War too. Unfortunately the way the US handled this war was idiotic. To gain passage and troop placement in Cambodia, the CIA helped supply rebels with weapons who had a wish to overthrow the peaceful government and in place install a new leader. The result? The slaughter of over a million Cambodian peoples at the hands of one of the most ruthless dictatorships the world has ever seen. The US' own lust for a won war resulted in a neutral country torn to shreds. And they lost Vietnam....
These are the effects of the US on the world. They can sway the tide of ideals and wars at the press of a button or the utter of a few words which to me is scarier than having 100 nuclear warheads in my back yard. I hate to bring games into the equation but I agree entirely with Metal Gear Solid 4's trailer....."the US has exported too much power and now she's paying the ultimate price." The game is an accurate portrayal of what the predicament is today and what hopefully (pray to God) will not come around in the future Middle-East.
In my opinion, as harsh as it may sound towards Americans on this board (i'm sorry if I seem offensive to you but I don't mean to be. I like the American peoples but dislike the ideals of the US government), North Korea's weapons will not destroy this world; the US has a higher chance of doing so. Not through weapons but through actions and words.Â
The pen is mightier than the sword -- in America's case at least.
[QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.linkhero1No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.
I'M STILL A VIRGIN! :cry:
[QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.bc1391No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.
[QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.jetpower3No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.
You can freeze yourself until the world ends but no matter what, you're gonna have to come out some time, and then you'll die.
/pessimism.
No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.The_Game21x
You can freeze yourself until the world ends but no matter what, you're gonna have to come out some time, and then you'll die.
/pessimism.
When you're dealing with a country that has enough nukes to blow up the world four times, you have to be extremely cautious. A lot of people were saying "Oh, just bomb the hell out of them like Iraq." Iraq never had any WMDs (at least so far). The world might be against them, but they could take on the world at the push of a button.IAmRodyleThey have enough nukes to end the world?
[QUOTE="IAmRodyle"]When you're dealing with a country that has enough nukes to blow up the world four times, you have to be extremely cautious. A lot of people were saying "Oh, just bomb the hell out of them like Iraq." Iraq never had any WMDs (at least so far). The world might be against them, but they could take on the world at the push of a button.WasdieThey have enough nukes to end the world? It's been a while since I researched this...but this was true at the time I did. I believe I heard that the world's supply of nuclear weapons is enough to blow up the entire collective surface area of the Solar System.
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.jetpower3
You can freeze yourself until the world ends but no matter what, you're gonna have to come out some time, and then you'll die.
/pessimism.
[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.jetpower3
You can freeze yourself until the world ends but no matter what, you're gonna have to come out some time, and then you'll die.
/pessimism.
[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="IAmRodyle"]When you're dealing with a country that has enough nukes to blow up the world four times, you have to be extremely cautious. A lot of people were saying "Oh, just bomb the hell out of them like Iraq." Iraq never had any WMDs (at least so far). The world might be against them, but they could take on the world at the push of a button.IAmRodyleThey have enough nukes to end the world? It's been a while since I researched this...but this was true at the time I did. I believe I heard that the world's supply of nuclear weapons is enough to blow up the entire collective surface area of the Solar System. Well that is mostly between America and Russia. the EU has a bunch, but not as much as America or Russia.
[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.linkhero1
You can freeze yourself until the world ends but no matter what, you're gonna have to come out some time, and then you'll die.
/pessimism.
[QUOTE="linkhero1"][QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.-Shinryu-
You can freeze yourself until the world ends but no matter what, you're gonna have to come out some time, and then you'll die.
/pessimism.
I heard on the radio just now that bush is saying that NK doesn't want peace (lol) and that he is threatening military action if they don't have sanctions put on.Neither give the nukes to Reggie. He'll know what to do with them.
Who would you rather give a nuclear weapon too? A war monger, or a mentally handicapped war monger?
tekkenlaw
[QUOTE="tekkenlaw"]I heard on the radio just now that bush is saying that NK doesn't want peace (lol) and that he is threatening military action if they don't have sanctions put on.Neither give the nukes to Reggie. He'll know what to do with them.
Who would you rather give a nuclear weapon too? A war monger, or a mentally handicapped war monger?
linkhero1
They should go with what a 12 year old did in, "The Kid Who Became President", settle it in a video game!
[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.[QUOTE="jetpower3"][QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.linkhero1
You can freeze yourself until the world ends but no matter what, you're gonna have to come out some time, and then you'll die.
/pessimism.
No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.[QUOTE="linkhero1"][QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.CJL13
I'M STILL A VIRGIN! :cry:
I HAVEN'T EVEN KISSED A DAMN GIRL!!!!!!!!![QUOTE="CJL13"]No need to be scared, NK wouldn't even try it. That would be suicide besides WERE ALL GONNA DIE SOMEDAY HAHAHAHA *this has been another depressing pessimistic post by bc1391.[QUOTE="linkhero1"][QUOTE="bc1391"][QUOTE="linkhero1"]I'm scared because I heard that their missles could reach California.dante20010
I'M STILL A VIRGIN! :cry:
I HAVEN'T EVEN KISSED A DAMN GIRL!!!!!!!!! Wow. Get off of these boards and get out into the world.Please Log In to post.
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