Android or Iphone?

Looking to finally get a smartphone, specifically one that i can use for music as well.
Leaning towards an Iphone, i thought maybe you droid fans could convince me otherwise?

Do you want a big screen, more options, more customization, expandable storage, real 4G (depending on the carrier) with a (slightly) smaller app selection and less overall polish, or do you want a smaller, locked down phone with no expandable storage, no 4G or AT&T's pretend 4G, more apps and overall more polish with more compatable accessories (assuming you want to use your phone for playing music at a party or whatever and you want to plug it into something. Keep in mind there are still a lot of android/universal accessories).

If the first option sounds good to you, android

if the second sounds good to you, iPhone.

Realistically, this will be the least biased response you will get.

Do you want a big screen, more options, more customization, expandable storage, real 4G (depending on the carrier) with a (slightly) smaller app selection and less overall polish, or do you want a smaller, locked down phone with no expandable storage, no 4G or AT&T's pretend 4G, more apps and overall more polish with more compatable accessories (assuming you want to use your phone for playing music at a party or whatever and you want to plug it into something. Keep in mind there are still a lot of android/universal accessories).

If the first option sounds good to you, android

if the second sounds good to you, iPhone.

Realistically, this will be the least biased response you will get.

semianonymous

iOS if you want a smooth, seamless experience. Android if you want to fiddle around and customize. It really depends on what Android phone you're considering. For example, you can't just say iOS>Android or Android>iOS for music, because sound quality will depend on what specific Android phone you're talking about.

And don't expect Android to just have expandable storage and bigger screen, that's dependent on the phone, not the OS. For example, the upcoming HTC One series and Sony's NXT line don't have expandable storage.

I suggest you pick out your ideal Android phone and compare that with the iPhone.

It pretty much comes down to what you value most.

Power and customization? Definitely gotta go with the higher end androids.

Simplicity and uniformity? iPhone by far.

What service provider are you using? We can help narrow down the better option.

It pretty much comes down to what you value most.

Power and customization? Definitely gotta go with the higher end androids.

Simplicity and uniformity? iPhone by far.

What service provider are you using? We can help narrow down the better option.

verbtex

Thats not really a reason, you can buy any phone unlocked, which works on any carrier.

well, i've run iphone for some time, then wp7 and now android. just bought the sony xperia S, and i must say that android works better than i'd been lead to believe.. my personal prefence is android, mostly because i like to fiddle with my things. the iphone was seemless, admittedly, but after some time with it, it bored me to the brink of madness.

now windows phone.. this is functionality in a whole new way, it does what you tell it to, when you tell it to do it, but again.. a bit boring in the long run.

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It pretty much comes down to what you value most.

Power and customization? Definitely gotta go with the higher end androids.

Simplicity and uniformity? iPhone by far.

What service provider are you using? We can help narrow down the better option.

GTR12

Thats not really a reason, you can buy any phone unlocked, which works on any carrier.

I meant as far as phones go. Point him towards the higher end androids. Not all the great androids are available on all service providers.

I have no dog in this race, but here is my two cents...

I have plenty of apple products (airport extreme, macbook pro, apple tv, ipod, ipad 2, etc.). However, I recently decided to get a Motoroal Droid Razr Maxx from Verizon wireless and I must say it is amazing.

I don't think you can go wrong with either, but I have played with iphones before and I would take my phone over an iphone 4s any day of the week. Don't get me wrong, the iphone has some really nice features, but for me, there really is no comparison. I feel that android has a counter to everything the iphone has to offer (whatsapp vs. imessage for example), plus all of the benefits of an open platform and a bigger screen to boot and the blazing fast 4g LTE network.

Again, just my two cents. Both are excellent phones. I suggest you go into a store and try them both.

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[QUOTE="verbtex"]

It pretty much comes down to what you value most.

Power and customization? Definitely gotta go with the higher end androids.

Simplicity and uniformity? iPhone by far.

What service provider are you using? We can help narrow down the better option.

verbtex

Thats not really a reason, you can buy any phone unlocked, which works on any carrier.

I meant as far as phones go. Point him towards the higher end androids. Not all the great androids are available on all service providers.

The phone doesn't need to be available from a carrier, hence why I said, buy an unlocked phone.

I think you mean, not every SP will work with every phone, in the sense, here in Aus, we have NextG, its in-between 3G and 4G, now not every phone has quad band support, which I agree with, but even then, the phones fall back to HSPA/HSPA+

I've been reading through this thread and now am really interested...what do you guys think is the best android for the price..

I've been reading through this thread and now am really interested...what do you guys think is the best android for the price..

NaviJ

sgs2. you can find them filthy cheap for the quality you are getting

Depends what you want out of your device. For music, nothing beats the iPhone. However, you are limited to a locked-in ecosystem. This is a double edged sword. On one hand, you get much better apps(from my experience)more stable OS, currently the best internal hardware, and an endless amount of accessories to go with it. Drawbacks are the small, bland colored screen(although very sharp), limited customization, and no LTE support.

Android phones usually have much larger, brighter, and more vibrant screens. They are more customiable, but also more prone to performance issues and just dont move through the OS as smoothly. ICS 4.0 has fixed alot of this, but there's still some lag moving through the menus. Android's app market is also lacking in the gaming department. iOS has many exclucives that you won't find on Android. That being said, there are some great titles to be had on Android phones. And the larger, more vibrant screens make gaming much more enjoyable from my experience. Just make sure you pick a popular model such as the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S2, the upcoming HTC One X, or the Galaxy S3 when it comes out. Reason for this is the Android market is "fragmented" meaning developers have to tweak each app to work properly for each device. And there's tons of them on Android. Even with a top of the line phone, you can get messages that say your device isn't compatiable with the app(usually the app will work fine). There's ways to get the app anyway like editing your build.prop file to change the model name of your phone, but you should due this at your own risk.

Lots of pluses and minuse on both sides. So, take your pick. Both sides are great, but appeal to different people.

I had an iPhone 4S and loved it alot. It was a very solid device, just had a premium, professional feel, look, and performance. That being said, I traded it for a Galaxy Nexus. I do alot of gaming and the 3.5" screen was a bit small for me. Also, the colors on the Galaxy Nexus were more vibrant which appealed to me. I'm also a nerd so I love to tinker a bit in the OS :)

That being said, if Apple's next iPhone is 4.5"+ I wouldn't hesitate to give it a try. They make top of the line products, as do Samsung, HTC, LG etc.

The phone doesn't need to be available from a carrier, hence why I said, buy an unlocked phone.

I think you mean, not every SP will work with every phone, in the sense, here in Aus, we have NextG, its in-between 3G and 4G, now not every phone has quad band support, which I agree with, but even then, the phones fall back to HSPA/HSPA+

GTR12

If you're in the states though, there are some phones which are CDMA only.

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The phone doesn't need to be available from a carrier, hence why I said, buy an unlocked phone.

I think you mean, not every SP will work with every phone, in the sense, here in Aus, we have NextG, its in-between 3G and 4G, now not every phone has quad band support, which I agree with, but even then, the phones fall back to HSPA/HSPA+

verbtex

If you're in the states though, there are some phones which are CDMA only.

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

It pretty much comes down to what you value most.

Power and customization? Definitely gotta go with the higher end androids.

Simplicity and uniformity? iPhone by far.

What service provider are you using? We can help narrow down the better option.

GTR12

Thats not really a reason, you can buy any phone unlocked, which works on any carrier.

I say Android.

But, and with all the respect in the world, what answer would you expect by asking this question in an Android sub-forum? ;)

If you're planning on gaming, you might want to go with what you were leaning for.

Majority of people have an iOS device (an iPad, iPod or iPhone), and you'll be able to connect seamlessly with any of those owners online via gamecenter or locally through WiFi or Bluetooth. Ecosystem is rock solid, consistent, and contains thousands more polished and stable apps.

According to recent studies, iOS is set to completely dominate the mobile ecosystem in the very near future. One study shows the demand for JUST the iPhone, let alone the huge and constantly growing demand for iPads and iPods

If you're planning on gaming, you might want to go with what you were leaning for.

Majority of people have an iOS device (an iPad, iPod or iPhone), and you'll be able to connect seamlessly with any of those owners online via gamecenter or locally through WiFi or Bluetooth. Ecosystem is rock solid, consistent, and contains thousands more polished and stable apps.

According to recent studies, iOS is set to completely dominate the mobile ecosystem in the very near future. One study shows the demand for JUST the iPhone, let alone the huge and constantly growing demand for iPads and iPods

Kid-Atari

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If you're planning on gaming, you might want to go with what you were leaning for.

Majority of people have an iOS device (an iPad, iPod or iPhone), and you'll be able to connect seamlessly with any of those owners online via gamecenter or locally through WiFi or Bluetooth. Ecosystem is rock solid, consistent, and contains thousands more polished and stable apps.

According to recent studies, iOS is set to completely dominate the mobile ecosystem in the very near future. One study shows the demand for JUST the iPhone, let alone the huge and constantly growing demand for iPads and iPods

Gambler_3

Apple sold 37 million units last quarter, compared to the 13 million it sold previous. That's way more than double an increase in just one quarter. The chart perfectly represents that event. :)

Kid-Atari

You came to the Android section to ask this? Hmm...

If you want a more polished experience, amazing stability and a device that will be supported by the manufacturer for at least the next two years: Get the iPhone.

If you want to continually tinker with your phone, a bigger screen and more choice when it comes to designs: Get an Android.

There are some caveats with Androids though. Try to stick to the higher end ones and , unless you get the RAZR MAXX, pay attention to what people are saying about the battery life.

Also, look into Window Phone 7. They're incredibly smooth and stable, but the app selection is lacking.

My top three (in no particular order) would be the iPhone 4S, Moto RAZR MAXX, and the Lumia 900.

If you're planning on gaming, you might want to go with what you were leaning for.

Majority of people have an iOS device (an iPad, iPod or iPhone), and you'll be able to connect seamlessly with any of those owners online via gamecenter or locally through WiFi or Bluetooth. Ecosystem is rock solid, consistent, and contains thousands more polished and stable apps.

According to recent studies, iOS is set to completely dominate the mobile ecosystem in the very near future. One study shows the demand for JUST the iPhone, let alone the huge and constantly growing demand for iPads and iPods

Kid-Atari

I use to think Android was better but I am wrong. IOS outclasses Android in every way possible. Even multitasking i better on IOS. I would not get the iphone 4s thouh unless you are on att so get the faster data speeds. Verizon and Sprint 3G is really slow. The thing about IOS is it is made really well and it has many high quality apps that you just wouldn't find on any other platform. Apple did a great job in making the OS easy to use like the use of gestures.

how exactly is ios better? no widgets, no customization, and Android has the best handsets. an software can make up for the midget screen on the iphone. Pretty much any decent app on ios is also on android. If you don't develop for Android these days you are pretty much saying bye bye to 60% of potential sales. imprezawrx500

If in the future T-Mobile has an iphone I will be getting one. Android is also a bit buggy. Sometimes my phone would restart or an app will quit plus there are the security risks. Google solution is for the user to pay attention to what the apps have access to. It is really bad when an app with a virus ends up in the official market. Also IOS has incorporated some great technology like airplay plus having videos from website play without the need of flash is a major plus. Everything is so smooth and I can use airplay to send the video to my XBMC running HTPC or receiver.

Today was the first day I using my iPad for class instead of the Android tablet and man I just don't know what I was thinking using Android. IOS does everything so much better and seemless.

I guess if you care about spending your time time tinkering when they are much better things to do then Android is the way to go.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]how exactly is ios better? no widgets, no customization, and Android has the best handsets. an software can make up for the midget screen on the iphone. Pretty much any decent app on ios is also on android. If you don't develop for Android these days you are pretty much saying bye bye to 60% of potential sales. Jamex1987

If in the future T-Mobile has an iphone I will be getting one. Android is also a bit buggy. Sometimes my phone would restart or an app will quit plus there are the security risks. Google solution is for the user to pay attention to what the apps have access to. It is really bad when an app with a virus ends up in the official market. Also IOS has incorporated some great technology like airplay plus having videos from website play without the need of flash is a major plus. Everything is so smooth and I can use airplay to send the video to my XBMC running HTPC or receiver.

Today was the first day I using my iPad for class instead of the Android tablet and man I just don't know what I was thinking using Android. IOS does everything so much better and seemless.

I guess if you care about spending your time time tinkering when they are much better things to do then Android is the way to go.

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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]how exactly is ios better? no widgets, no customization, and Android has the best handsets. an software can make up for the midget screen on the iphone. Pretty much any decent app on ios is also on android. If you don't develop for Android these days you are pretty much saying bye bye to 60% of potential sales. mystic_knight

If in the future T-Mobile has an iphone I will be getting one. Android is also a bit buggy. Sometimes my phone would restart or an app will quit plus there are the security risks. Google solution is for the user to pay attention to what the apps have access to. It is really bad when an app with a virus ends up in the official market. Also IOS has incorporated some great technology like airplay plus having videos from website play without the need of flash is a major plus. Everything is so smooth and I can use airplay to send the video to my XBMC running HTPC or receiver.

Today was the first day I using my iPad for class instead of the Android tablet and man I just don't know what I was thinking using Android. IOS does everything so much better and seemless.

I guess if you care about spending your time time tinkering when they are much better things to do then Android is the way to go.

I've been reading through this thread and now am really interested...what do you guys think is the best android for the price..

NaviJ

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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]how exactly is ios better? no widgets, no customization, and Android has the best handsets. an software can make up for the midget screen on the iphone. Pretty much any decent app on ios is also on android. If you don't develop for Android these days you are pretty much saying bye bye to 60% of potential sales. mystic_knight

If in the future T-Mobile has an iphone I will be getting one. Android is also a bit buggy. Sometimes my phone would restart or an app will quit plus there are the security risks. Google solution is for the user to pay attention to what the apps have access to. It is really bad when an app with a virus ends up in the official market. Also IOS has incorporated some great technology like airplay plus having videos from website play without the need of flash is a major plus. Everything is so smooth and I can use airplay to send the video to my XBMC running HTPC or receiver.

Today was the first day I using my iPad for class instead of the Android tablet and man I just don't know what I was thinking using Android. IOS does everything so much better and seemless.

I guess if you care about spending your time time tinkering when they are much better things to do then Android is the way to go.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]how exactly is ios better? no widgets, no customization, and Android has the best handsets. an software can make up for the midget screen on the iphone. Pretty much any decent app on ios is also on android. If you don't develop for Android these days you are pretty much saying bye bye to 60% of potential sales. Jamex1987

If in the future T-Mobile has an iphone I will be getting one. Android is also a bit buggy. Sometimes my phone would restart or an app will quit plus there are the security risks. Google solution is for the user to pay attention to what the apps have access to. It is really bad when an app with a virus ends up in the official market. Also IOS has incorporated some great technology like airplay plus having videos from website play without the need of flash is a major plus. Everything is so smooth and I can use airplay to send the video to my XBMC running HTPC or receiver.

Today was the first day I using my iPad for class instead of the Android tablet and man I just don't know what I was thinking using Android. IOS does everything so much better and seemless.

I guess if you care about spending your time time tinkering when they are much better things to do then Android is the way to go.

Android can run multiple apps on screen simultaniously. While this is currently not unlimited, its a booming sector of android, and rumored to become integrated into the next version of android.

Until iOS allows you to do that, Android's multitasking chops are objectively better.

Android can run multiple apps on screen simultaniously. While this is currently not unlimited, its a booming sector of android, and rumored to become integrated into the next version of android.

Until iOS allows you to do that, Android's multitasking chops are objectively better.

semianonymous

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I've been reading through this thread and now am really interested...what do you guys think is the best android for the price..

DJ_Headshot

[QUOTE="semianonymous"]

Android can run multiple apps on screen simultaniously. While this is currently not unlimited, its a booming sector of android, and rumored to become integrated into the next version of android.

Until iOS allows you to do that, Android's multitasking chops are objectively better.

Kid-Atari

[QUOTE="semianonymous"]

Android can run multiple apps on screen simultaniously. While this is currently not unlimited, its a booming sector of android, and rumored to become integrated into the next version of android.

Until iOS allows you to do that, Android's multitasking chops are objectively better.

Kid-Atari

What is split screen. Browser on the top half, messaging on the bottom. I suspect it would work amazing on something in the same area as the galaxy nexus, 4.5+ with an HD screen. I could go on for a while with potential methods for this to work, and they are all dramatically exciting, but the real area of interest here is tablets. Let me tell you, cornerstone on an HP touchpad is amazing. It changes tablets from accessory devices to real, multitasking portable computers.

As a person who is an MDM (Mobile Data Management) Administrator for a regional medical center I can definitively say that although all platforms have their pluses and minuses, it really depends on the person and application for the device.

Apple fanboys may disagree, but youre flat out wrong on this aspect. iOS devices are meant for consumers, and consumers only, going beyond that they are for people that are not tech savy. The majority of the people that buy anything Apple are doing it because they:

1) Its trendy.

2) Its very basic and easy to use (im not knocking it)

3) They dont know any better.

As for an enterprise application of iOS, it sucks really bad. Yes, there are companies out there that tout the fact that they have implemented iPads, however, it wasnt by choice of the IT department which probably fought it tooth and nail. iOS devices are extremely hard to control and Apple insists on controlling the users data, whether it be personal or not. They want complete control over the information flowing through the device. There are solutions like Good Technologies (which is what I administer through) that allow some control over devices, whether it be Android, iOS, RIM, or Windows. The options are much more limited for iOS than Android.

From a consumer standpoint the new Android OS is much more sleek, and in my honest opinion, powerful than iOS. Not only that, Apple is really only concerned with aesthetics than they are their internals. iPad 3's are a joke, and before people start raving about the retina display, it really doesnt add any value to the device. You still cannot connect more than 1 bluetooth input device into an iPad or otherwise, no USB, no expandable memory, and you cannot directly sync files to another device or computer without subscribing to some sort of cloud service, or having iTunes do it.

The A5 processor isnt that great anymore. The Tegra 3 and the new Snapdragon are much better processors (much more so with the Tegra 3).

Tablets that I would recommend over an iPad - Samsung Slate (Core i5, 4GB of Ram, 64GB SSD, Wireless N). Yes its expensive, but you get your moneys worth. Ive had 3 physicians turn in their iPads for one of these.

Asus Transformer Prime (TF201) - Very fast tablet, same cost as an iPad, more memory, faster, and runs Android 4.0. though the screen res is lower than the retina display, I struggle to notice a difference.

Also, I dont know where you got that nifty chart but its very very wrong. I have been in many meetings over the past 6 months that directly contradict your research. Apple owned market share up until June-ish of last year and as of last quarter they were being outsold 5-1 over Android devices. Ninja Edit: I went back over some previous notes: iPhone was being outsold 5-1 while the iPad still held market share comfortably, however recent data suggests that iOS, is starting to struggle since Android and Windows have caught up and surpased them in hardware / and OS capabilities.

There is a reason why Steve Jobs dying wish was to, and i quote, "Wipe Android devices off the face of the earth". Its because he knew they were going to get pwn'd in the marketplace because proprietary always loses to configurable platforms. Dont believe me? Why do they have lawsuits out against nearly every single Android device manufacturer?

Thats a very biased arguement, my mate is just as tech savvy as i and has all the iPhone/iPad/Mac range. Also apples devices get more support in the medical industry. I would know as i'm a nurse myself. Its goes as far as to allow xray viewing apps, Mims mobile, significant echocardiogram recording features. Plus a few other things, I wish android got the same support but for some stupid reason we continue to get shafted. Anyway iPhone and Android have their tech enthusiasts, but apple has much more noobs and sheeps than android does, in saying that there is nothing wrong with that, but they got the iPhone without knowing how to use it properly.mystic_knight

I am a little jaded... however, speaking strictly from the standpoint of which platform is more powerful iOS is increasingly falling behind the competition. As for medical applications, my argument is that why not have Windows based tablets which can be controlled much more easily, are more secure, and natively run all of the applications you need. I am not sure what EMR you are used to using, but I am sure that they have apps for both Android, Apple, and obviously Windows. From an enterprise standpoint Windows based tablets should be the only way to go, yes they are more expensive but if you factor in the cost of what it tkes to support non-standard devieces then its a wash. From a user standpoint I can see why Apple would be the choice, because as you say, they are easy to use. From an enterprise standpoint they borderline nightmare cause its extremely hard to control information. This is the problem with Apple, they want too much control in the users experience. They want everyone to have the exact same experience and they do this by controlling everyones information. From a corporate level and from a consumer level, that just isnt right.

[QUOTE="mystic_knight"]Thats a very biased arguement, my mate is just as tech savvy as i and has all the iPhone/iPad/Mac range. Also apples devices get more support in the medical industry. I would know as i'm a nurse myself. Its goes as far as to allow xray viewing apps, Mims mobile, significant echocardiogram recording features. Plus a few other things, I wish android got the same support but for some stupid reason we continue to get shafted. Anyway iPhone and Android have their tech enthusiasts, but apple has much more noobs and sheeps than android does, in saying that there is nothing wrong with that, but they got the iPhone without knowing how to use it properly.Chrypt22

I am a little jaded... however, speaking strictly from the standpoint of which platform is more powerful iOS is increasingly falling behind the competition. As for medical applications, my argument is that why not have Windows based tablets which can be controlled much more easily, are more secure, and natively run all of the applications you need. I am not sure what EMR you are used to using, but I am sure that they have apps for both Android, Apple, and obviously Windows. From an enterprise standpoint Windows based tablets should be the only way to go, yes they are more expensive but if you factor in the cost of what it tkes to support non-standard devieces then its a wash. From a user standpoint I can see why Apple would be the choice, because as you say, they are easy to use. From an enterprise standpoint they borderline nightmare cause its extremely hard to control information. This is the problem with Apple, they want too much control in the users experience. They want everyone to have the exact same experience and they do this by controlling everyones information. From a corporate level and from a consumer level, that just isnt right.