Apple reigns king of smartphone profits by impossible margins

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http://www.slashgear.com/apple-samsung-earn-99-of-global-mobile-profits-03226048/

Apple takes a WHOPPING 73% of all smartphone profits in the industry, with the Samsung being the closest competitor at 26% profit-share. It's interesting to note that the Android phone that came generating profits the closest to Apple's was the one that was accused of looking and feeling very similar to the iPhone, while the rest of the Android devices have pretty much just remained steady.

It's pretty amazing. Even more unbelievable is that Apple only has around 200 mobile operators, while there are still well over 250 operators who still have yet to carry the iPhone.

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It's crazy seeing how the beginning of Nokia's downfall coincided with the original iPhone release, and are now struggling to turn a profit in the industry. It's almost sad to see Sony, RIMM, LG and HTC getting squished by Samsung and Apple, seeing that they are having extreme difficulty turning a healthy profit.

Aside from the mobile sector, Apple has even impacted mobile gaming. Sony is scheduled to post an annual loss of over 6 billion dollars this year due to lackluster sales of the Vita and its games.

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Yup.
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Don't worry HTC will take some this year The galaxy s 3 is an ugly phone and the iphone ... well they need a change or else it won't fare well. Far too many iphone users i know have moved to android.. None that have android have moved to iOS yet... if the iPhone 5 won't have LTE, it will fail behind, if they do not increase the screen it will also negatively impact it. I would never like to see apple die as they are good for competition, so they should pick up their game... windows 8 will become a big contender too s it will now support multi core plus higher resolution displays. Anyway i'm on team HTC. Boo to samsung and boo to apple :P
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[QUOTE="mystic_knight"]Don't worry HTC will take some this year The galaxy s 3 is an ugly phone and the iphone ... well they need a change or else it won't fare well. Far too many iphone users i know have moved to android.. None that have android have moved to iOS yet... if the iPhone 5 won't have LTE, it will fail behind, if they do not increase the screen it will also negatively impact it. I would never like to see apple die as they are good for competition, so they should pick up their game... windows 8 will become a big contender too s it will now support multi core plus higher resolution displays. Anyway i'm on team HTC. Boo to samsung and boo to apple :P

Well I wouldn't worry about Apple dying out. It's still the top selling phone on the three major US carriers. Imagining Apple declining and disappearing is like talking about the world cup declining and disappearing. They are the premiere tech company in the world, much like the world cup is the premiere sporting event. Rumors peg Apple to release a thinner 4" iPhone that will also probably include LTE. It's funny to hear you talk about all your friends moving away from the iPhone. I work in academia an the trend is exactly the opposite. But subjective experiences aren't what's important, it's data that's important, and Apple is still well in control - clearly. Absolutely agree about that Galaxy S3 though. What a pitiful phone, lol.
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If the 4S manages to outsell the ground breaking iphone 4 then you know apple just cant fail.

Samsung's big test is at hand now, the S3 isnt as ground breaking as S2 just like the situation of iphone 4 and 4S. Can S3 outsell the S2? Thats where samsung's brand name is going to be tested.

I see no future for sony unfortunately, they once again f*cked up on their latest xperia phone. LG is not getting anywhere until they hire a whole new team of software engineers and improve their terrible software support. Motorola also needs new software team and they need to get their prices down but hey they are in the safest hands and not going anywhere now. I dont think RIM is gonna make a comeback but I could be wrong on that.

If nokia makes an android phone they could be a major player all over again. The nokia brand name is still strong, nokia is still great at hardware it's always the OS which lets them down. The company seems to have put the nail on the coffin by sucking on MS.

HTC has definitely done an admirable job with the new series and I wish to see them turning better profit next quarter.

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="mystic_knight"]Don't worry HTC will take some this year The galaxy s 3 is an ugly phone and the iphone ... well they need a change or else it won't fare well. Far too many iphone users i know have moved to android.. None that have android have moved to iOS yet... if the iPhone 5 won't have LTE, it will fail behind, if they do not increase the screen it will also negatively impact it. I would never like to see apple die as they are good for competition, so they should pick up their game... windows 8 will become a big contender too s it will now support multi core plus higher resolution displays. Anyway i'm on team HTC. Boo to samsung and boo to apple :P

Well I wouldn't worry about Apple dying out. It's still the top selling phone on the three major US carriers. Imagining Apple declining and disappearing is like talking about the world cup declining and disappearing. They are the premiere tech company in the world, much like the world cup is the premiere sporting event. Rumors peg Apple to release a thinner 4" iPhone that will also probably include LTE. It's funny to hear you talk about all your friends moving away from the iPhone. I work in academia an the trend is exactly the opposite. But subjective experiences aren't what's important, it's data that's important, and Apple is still well in control - clearly. Absolutely agree about that Galaxy S3 though. What a pitiful phone, lol.

I hope it doesn't, nokia had the same impact 10-15 years ago and unfortunately they just never adapted, thats why i said apple need to keep up with the times. LTE and a more appropriate sized display helps it keep fresh. I had a few go to a galaxy s 2 and a few more go with the gs2 4g LTE. No one is going with HTC :(
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No one is going with HTC :(mystic_knight
HTC did a great job this time but shot themselves in the foot with gimped storage on the US one X and international one S. Seriously with all the competition they wanted the one X to have an "edge" over one S as if these are the only 2 phones people can buy? It takes no extra space to put in 32GB instead of 16GB and doesnt even cost that much more.

If there was a 32GB one S that would be the best phone for me. One X and S3 too big for my hands.

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A commen at engadget which had a really valid point.

"Let me see, Apple has 3 phone models, Samsung has at least 30 diff phones making it a nightmare to control costs, inventories, supply chains, engineers, designers, ETC ETC If Samsung would narrow their model lineup, they'd have close or equal margins, but they'd rather flood the market and depend on sheer volume to make money."

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A commen at engadget which had a really valid point.

"Let me see, Apple has 3 phone models, Samsung has at least 30 diff phones making it a nightmare to control costs, inventories, supply chains, engineers, designers, ETC ETC If Samsung would narrow their model lineup, they'd have close or equal margins, but they'd rather flood the market and depend on sheer volume to make money."

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I don't think I agree with that comment. If they tried Apple's strategy, they'd be in big trouble. Apple's iPhone is the #1, 2, and 3 (when applicable) phone on the three major US networks. I can't speak for other markets, but it wouldn't work in the USA, and I doubt it would work in a majority of other territories in which the iPhone is available. None of the Samsung phones have the same brand power Apple's products do, for both smartphones and tablets.
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

A commen at engadget which had a really valid point.

"Let me see, Apple has 3 phone models, Samsung has at least 30 diff phones making it a nightmare to control costs, inventories, supply chains, engineers, designers, ETC ETC If Samsung would narrow their model lineup, they'd have close or equal margins, but they'd rather flood the market and depend on sheer volume to make money."

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I don't think I agree with that comment. If they tried Apple's strategy, they'd be in big trouble. Apple's iPhone is the #1, 2, and 3 (when applicable) phone on the three major US networks. I can't speak for other markets, but it wouldn't work in the USA, and I doubt it would work in a majority of other territories in which the iPhone is available. None of the Samsung phones have the same brand power Apple's products do, for both smartphones and tablets.

Thats because there are many choices thats why no one phone makes it to the top. I have nexus S if it didnt exist I'll prolly have the galaxy S which would furthur increase the popularity of the galaxy S. Similarly many people who have the galaxy nexus and galaxy note would most certainly have gone for the S2 if those devices didnt exist.

Samsung's flagship phone is the second most popular high end phone in the world, the S2 is the only name apart from iphone that even a random non-tech guy seems to have heard about. I can tell you that in singapore you will see way more S2 than iphone 4S, samsung dominates in alot of asian countries. Now imagine if all these variants of the flagship dont exist? The S2 would sell even more.

If samsung made only 1 mid end phone then that phone would also get S2 like worldwide identity which would furthur enhance the brand name. Samsung tries to give so many options that individual phones dont develop an identity. The galaxy brand is already a really powerful one, you dont sell so many smartphones just because you have 30 different phones because if that was the case then nokia would still be no.1.

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I think you should take notice of this

hero-galaxy-s3-970x275.jpg

It is the first think you see one the website, sorry apple vodafone is pushing the s3 just as much as the 4s was pushed on launch and now iphone is on the back burner, and when you go to phones you see the galaxy s2, one s sensation xl and lumbia 900 and no iphone. Iphone is slowling lossing it's carrier dominance, it's only a matter of time before samsung have the same brand power as apple. htc is also becoming very strong with the one series and nokia with the lumia should not be forgotten about they are being pushed very hard and could become huge.

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I think you should take notice of this

hero-galaxy-s3-970x275.jpg

It is the first think you see one the website, sorry apple vodafone is pushing the s3 just as much as the 4s was pushed on launch and now iphone is on the back burner, and when you go to phones you see the galaxy s2, one s sensation xl and lumbia 900 and no iphone. Iphone is slowling lossing it's carrier dominance, it's only a matter of time before samsung have the same brand power as apple. htc is also becoming very strong with the one series and nokia with the lumia should not be forgotten about they are being pushed very hard and could become huge.

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What are you talking about?
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="mystic_knight"]Don't worry HTC will take some this year The galaxy s 3 is an ugly phone and the iphone ... well they need a change or else it won't fare well. Far too many iphone users i know have moved to android.. None that have android have moved to iOS yet... if the iPhone 5 won't have LTE, it will fail behind, if they do not increase the screen it will also negatively impact it. I would never like to see apple die as they are good for competition, so they should pick up their game... windows 8 will become a big contender too s it will now support multi core plus higher resolution displays. Anyway i'm on team HTC. Boo to samsung and boo to apple :P

Well I wouldn't worry about Apple dying out. It's still the top selling phone on the three major US carriers. Imagining Apple declining and disappearing is like talking about the world cup declining and disappearing. They are the premiere tech company in the world, much like the world cup is the premiere sporting event. Rumors peg Apple to release a thinner 4" iPhone that will also probably include LTE. It's funny to hear you talk about all your friends moving away from the iPhone. I work in academia an the trend is exactly the opposite. But subjective experiences aren't what's important, it's data that's important, and Apple is still well in control - clearly. Absolutely agree about that Galaxy S3 though. What a pitiful phone, lol.

Not to mention the amount of new developers of iOS Apps . I Switched from Android to Apple because of the app selection .
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I think you should take notice of this

hero-galaxy-s3-970x275.jpg

It is the first think you see one the website, sorry apple vodafone is pushing the s3 just as much as the 4s was pushed on launch and now iphone is on the back burner, and when you go to phones you see the galaxy s2, one s sensation xl and lumbia 900 and no iphone. Iphone is slowling lossing it's carrier dominance, it's only a matter of time before samsung have the same brand power as apple. htc is also becoming very strong with the one series and nokia with the lumia should not be forgotten about they are being pushed very hard and could become huge.

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The only way Samsung could ever have the same brand power as Apple would be to make as much profit, be as valuable, and be able to create a sub-culture of its own. Last time I checked, Samsung isn't anywhere close to achieving any of the three. Makes great for fantastical thinking though. I'm not sure people understand how much further Apple is than than entire competition combined. When a company has enough money to purchase its own nation, it makes me wonder how people come to the conclusion that it will fall behind the rest of the mediocre competition.
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Oi! The competition is far from mediocre... Now you just trollin' I can understand your comment being that they are in front of the competition in revenue and sales but to call the competition mediocre is just a silly comment.
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[QUOTE="mystic_knight"]Oi! The competition is far from mediocre... Now you just trollin' I can understand your comment being that they are in front of the competition in revenue and sales but to call the competition mediocre is just a silly comment.

I see you, I meant to reference the likes of Motorola, RIMM, Nokia, Sony etc... I do tip my hat off to Samsung for being able to rise above mediocrity, and their efforts are reflected by their position above the companies mentioned prior.