New iPad renders Tegra 3 OBSOLETE

Another Apple worshipping thread by you ?

the lack of things that make use of the A5X make it obsolete

I can't imagine what the A6 chip will be like in the new iPhone 5Kid-Atari

Most likely a dual-core Cortex A15 (28nm ~2.0Ghz) with a PowerVR SGX 544MP2. TI's OMAP 5 is only coming early 2013, so one can only assume.

EDIT: I just realised you said "iPhone 5" and not the 2013 iPad.

Another Apple worshipping thread by you ?

RaIn285

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Another Apple worshipping thread by you ?

Kid-Atari

Apple still isn't the end all be all.. and no it didn't make anything obsolete.

According to benchmarks, the A5X is 4 times more capable than Tegra 3. Kid-Atari

post the benchmarks. Please, go ahead, post them.

Hint: there aren't any yet. Apple offered no substanial proof for their claims beyond "because we totes said so guys"

I'm not saying it isn't powerful, quite possibily even as powerful as apple claims. I just want to see proof beyond a line on a powerpoint presentation.

[QUOTE="Kid-Atari"]According to benchmarks, the A5X is 4 times more capable than Tegra 3. semianonymous

post the benchmarks. Please, go ahead, post them.

Hint: there aren't any yet. Apple offered no substanial proof for their claims beyond "because we totes said so guys"

I'm not saying it isn't powerful, quite possibily even as powerful as apple claims. I just want to see proof beyond a line on a powerpoint presentation.

Tegra 4 comes out.A5X is obsolete!Besides theres so many android tablets that come out they'll be stronger then the new iPad in no time.

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[QUOTE="Kid-Atari"]According to benchmarks, the A5X is 4 times more capable than Tegra 3. Kid-Atari

post the benchmarks. Please, go ahead, post them.

Hint: there aren't any yet. Apple offered no substanial proof for their claims beyond "because we totes said so guys"

I'm not saying it isn't powerful, quite possibily even as powerful as apple claims. I just want to see proof beyond a line on a powerpoint presentation.

If you would bother to read what I wrote, I conceded it was entirely possible that apple was right.

I am simply asking for substantial proof beyond a powerpoint slide. Show me a chart, a graph, numbers, something. Don't get your undies in a bunch just because someone doesn't mindlessly accept apples claims/calls out your own claims for lack of proof.

PS: Your GPU might be quad, but your CPU is still a dual core. Every quad core either features the same or better archetecture, which will eat the A5X.

PPS: The iphone 5/6/"new iphone" will probably have an A5X. Just saying.

PPSS: The Krait generally hits double the T3, and thats a dual core. I'm starting to suspect beating the Tegra 3 isn't much of an accomplishment. Oh well, nvidia

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post the benchmarks. Please, go ahead, post them.

Hint: there aren't any yet. Apple offered no substanial proof for their claims beyond "because we totes said so guys"

I'm not saying it isn't powerful, quite possibily even as powerful as apple claims. I just want to see proof beyond a line on a powerpoint presentation.

semianonymous

If you would bother to read what I wrote, I conceded it was entirely possible that apple was right.

I am simply asking for substantial proof beyond a powerpoint slide. Show me a chart, a graph, numbers, something. Don't get your undies in a bunch just because someone doesn't mindlessly accept apples claims/calls out your own claims for lack of proof.

PS: Your GPU might be quad, but your CPU is still a dual core. Every quad core either features the same or better archetecture, which will eat the A5X.

PPS: The iphone 5/6/"new iphone" will probably have an A5X. Just saying.

PPSS: The Krait generally hits double the T3, and thats a dual core. I'm starting to suspect beating the Tegra 3 isn't much of an accomplishment. Oh well, nvidia

im just not sure why they opted for the a9 cpu.mystic_knight

[QUOTE="mystic_knight"] im just not sure why they opted for the a9 cpu.NVIDIATI

all im reading is nerd talkZumaJones07

Qualcomm seems fairly confident with it though, it will be interesting to see how it plays out..mystic_knight

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[QUOTE="mystic_knight"] I don't think ARM's Cortex A15 is ready yet. As I was saying earlier on in the thread, TI's OMAP 5 is only coming at the start of 2013, so a dual core Cortex A15 and a PowerVR SGX544MP2 seems most likely specs for the 2013 iPad.

mystic_knight

all im reading is nerd talkZumaJones07

Very impressive. Why does Android keep touting Tegra for their devices after it fails with every release. Clearly Imagination Tech knows their **** and Android manufactboars need to get on board. Even the iPad 2 shamed the Asus T. prime. I'm Gonna be in the market for a tablet soon...so far the new iPad has.no competition.

Didn't nvidia call apple out for just showing an empty graph with no benchmark's.

Didn't nvidia call apple out for just showing an empty graph with no benchmark's.

TwistedShade

Actually one of the reasons Tegra 3 has been rather disappointing is due to Nvidia's production issues which came mid-2011. As it turns out, Tegra 3.3 (T33) will have the performance which Tegra 3 should have had. If I'm not mistaken, Tegra 3 wasn't to be produced at 40nm, but a smaller size.

T33 will be appearing in the Asus Transformer Infinity.

http://gizmodo.com/5893970/ipad-test-notes-speed-versus-tegra-3

Here's the first benchmark I came across. While impressive graphics performance by the A5x, It clearly isn't 4x more powerful. In fact the Tegra 3 has the A5x beat hands down in Browsing and general user tasks.

Tegra 3 is already a little useless. Apple owns the market that chip is designed for.musicalmac

Every year you do the same thing and are proven wrong each time. A4 vs Tegra, A5 vs Tegra 2, and now A5X vs Tegra 3. Each year, Apple claims their new chip is this much more powerful than tegra so-and-so. Each year you say "yeah right no proof." Each year Anandtech an every other reputable testing facility reveals that apples new chip is actually MORE powerful than Apple initially claimed at their keynote. When will you learn? Never. It was true with A4 vs Tegra, A5 vs Tegra 2, and now A5X vs Tegra 3. The best hardware and price value belongs in our camp, buddy. It always has been. ;)Kid-Atari

The galaxy S2 chipset was the fastest mobile chipset at the time of it's release.

Nvidia is not the only player making chipsets you know, the S3 is going to destroy the ipad in performance.

Nvidia is not the only player making chipsets you know, the S3 is going to destroy the ipad in performance.

Gambler_3

You mean the $250 tablet market? Or the phone market?NVIDIATI

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Nvidia is not the only player making chipsets you know, the S3 is going to destroy the ipad in performance.

musicalmac

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] You mean the $250 tablet market? Or the phone market?musicalmac

Secondly I pointed this to you previously as well that this doesnt include the profits that companies make out of selling components to mobile manufacturers. Samsung is the second most profitable mobile company right now and the largest supplier of components to manufacturers. I would like to see how much they really make with both their own phones and outsourced components in comparison to how much apple makes.

I thought the post I quoted was talking about raw performance....well it indeed was talking about numbers and benchmarks so your post is useless.

Gambler_3

Only 9% is a totally irrelevant figure. When you talk only about the most expensive phones, apple has a pretty major portion of it. The profit on cheaper phones is almost nothing.

Secondly I pointed this to you previously as well that this doesnt include the profits that companies make out of selling components to mobile manufacturers. Samsung is the second most profitable mobile company right now and the largest supplier of components to manufacturers. I would like to see how much they really make with both their own phones and outsourced components in comparison to how much apple makes.

As to your other point, Samsung net profit for quarter 4 2011 was 3.5 billion USD. Apple's net profit for quarter 4 2011 was 13.06 billion.

lolmusicalmac

And I was talking about that 75% profit once we factor in industrial business as well and not just consumer sales.

Mobile phone profits we were talking about genius. :lol:

And I was talking about that 75% profit once we factor in industrial business as well and not just consumer sales.

That doesn't make any sense. But if I were to humor you, I'd simply repeat that raw performance isn't as important as balance in a device. Not so true on Android, since it's poorly written to begin with. So you'd need more power in an Android device to get the same responsiveness you see in an iOS or Windows Phone 7 device. musicalmac

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Mobile phone profits we were talking about genius. :lol:

And I was talking about that 75% profit once we factor in industrial business as well and not just consumer sales.

musicalmac

I didnt start this topic you know, someone else did bringing in tegra 3 which has absolutely nothing to do with apple or iOS.

And btw galaxy S2 after ICS and galaxy nexus have faster web browsing than the iphone 4S because of ICS optimization and also because they have faster CPU's so raw performance does matter to an extent.

I didnt start this topic you know, someone else did bringing in tegra 3 which has absolutely nothing to do with apple or iOS.

Gambler_3

And btw galaxy S2 after ICS and galaxy nexus have faster web browsing than the iphone 4S because of ICS optimization and also because they have faster CPU's so raw performance does matter to an extent.

Gambler_3