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#1 Espurs117
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Theres a report out that the Dolphins purchased film that had audio of Tom Bradys signals. This is turning into a big deal as they are discussing it on NFL Live and Sportscenter. Sean Salisbury and Eric Allen think its cheating, what do you guys think?

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#2 bloody1f4knight
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For me, I think Dolphins cheated but you never know.
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#3 bulett6990
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Yes it is cheating it would be the same thing as stealing a playbook
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#4 bgres077
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In this league you have to take every advantage that you can get.  Nice work getting those signals.
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#5 kierroo
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cant wait till thetombradyhater comes on he will have have a right laugh over this
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I haven't really seen much about this story yet, but yeah I'm glad its Tom Brady of all QB's.
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If this is cheating then what are game tapes for? Coaches and players analyze game tape and they disect the plays, formations, tendencies, etc."They had the audio to go along with the tapes" So? you got to be naive to think that we are the only ones who have acess to this info if its for sale.Its just another way to prepare.

**** they can always change the signals and terms, and hell you already have the tape to know what the plays are so wouldn't that be cheating?

Shoudn't SI get in trouble for printing an article breaking down The Cover 2 Defense or analyzing in the first place?

Hell it doesn't matter if you know the signals and terminology, the Pats still couldn't stop us and Brady always plays like hell against us.

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Yes it is cheating it would be the same thing as stealing a playbook bulett6990
I agree. You would never know what they did to other QB's. Maybe give a huge goose egg to jason taylor's sacks now.
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I can't really decide if this is cheating or not. I guess we will find out though.
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If this is cheating then what are game tapes for? Coaches and players analyze game tape and they disect the plays, formations, tendencies, etc."They had the audio to go along with the tapes" So? you got to be naive to think that we are the only ones who have acess to this info if its for sale.Its just another way to prepare.

**** they can always change the signals and terms, and hell you already have the tape to know what the plays are so wouldn't that be cheating?

Shoudn't SI get in trouble for printing an article breaking down The Cover 2 Defense or analyzing in the first place?

Hell it doesn't matter if you know the signals and terminology, the Pats still couldn't stop us and Brady always plays like hell against us.

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Game tape is diffrent. There is no audio tapes in the NFL.....it says they purchased it from someone who made it. Which is unfair....every team has gametape........the only team with an audio tape is the Dolphins, thats an unfair advantage.

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#11 GoPhins123
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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2006/12/12/1212bradyfeed.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=46

Alot of conflicting reports on this story.

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This is no where near chaeting period. Does anybody play football here? I remember playing hig school football and we would watch tape of our opponents and doinghte exact same thing. we beat a team by 56 points one time just because we knew what they were calling from film. I can only imagine what they do in the NFL. The NFL records video and audio and has tons of film as shown in NFL Films. This is no were near cheating.

Can someone put this report up to see exactly what there being accused of becasue watching film is nothing bad.

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This is no where near chaeting period. Does anybody play football here? I remember playing hig school football and we would watch tape of our opponents and doinghte exact same thing. we beat a team by 56 points one time just because we knew what they were calling from film. I can only imagine what they do in the NFL. The NFL records video and audio and has tons of film as shown in NFL Films. This is no were near cheating.

Can someone put this report up to see exactly what there being accused of becasue watching film is nothing bad.

ocdog45


Uh. Game footage doesn't have audio. And yes I do consider this cheating.
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#14 Espurs117
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This is no where near chaeting period. Does anybody play football here? I remember playing hig school football and we would watch tape of our opponents and doinghte exact same thing. we beat a team by 56 points one time just because we knew what they were calling from film. I can only imagine what they do in the NFL. The NFL records video and audio and has tons of film as shown in NFL Films. This is no were near cheating.

Can someone put this report up to see exactly what there being accused of becasue watching film is nothing bad.

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Its Ilegal to "purchase" such footage.

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What footage, you don't even know what it is, how can yo say that. when you got mark clyaton and shaun salsberry saying its not illegal and everybody else even the PATS, how can YOU say its litteraly cheating. now if you mean cheating on a moral point of it then thats fine.
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What footage, you don't even know what it is, how can yo say that. when you got mark clyaton and shaun salsberry saying its not illegal and everybody else even the PATS, how can YOU say its litteraly cheating. now if you mean cheating on a moral point of it then thats fine.ocdog45

On ESPN they said if you "purchase" footage with audio then its illegal, and when I mean "purchase" I mean by it from some bootleg guy.

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#17 ocdog45
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BOOTLEG GUY............LMAO HA HA!

[QUOTE="ocdog45"]What footage, you don't even know what it is, how can yo say that. when you got mark clyaton and shaun salsberry saying its not illegal and everybody else even the PATS, how can YOU say its litteraly cheating. now if you mean cheating on a moral point of it then thats fine.Espurs117

On ESPN they said if you "purchase" footage with audio then its illegal, and when I mean "purchase" I mean by it from some bootleg guy.

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Well the NFL said they aren't cheating so will other teams start doing it now?
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Case closed. Also several nalysts have said that no this wasn't cheating.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227

Notice how ESPN is the only one how made a big deal out of this. I guess they can't handle the truth that Miami handed the Patriots their asses.

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#20 bgres077
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Case closed. Also several nalysts have said that no this wasn't cheating.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227

Notice how ESPN is the only one how made a big deal out of this. I guess they can't handle the truth that Miami handed the Patriots their asses.

GoPhins123
Pretty much.
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Notice how ESPN is the only one how made a big deal out of this. I guess they can't handle the truth that Miami handed the Patriots their asses.

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The Patriots lead the AFC East. 
Miami isn't going to the playoffs.

End of story.

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#22 detroitpistons0
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[QUOTE="GoPhins123"]

Notice how ESPN is the only one how made a big deal out of this. I guess they can't handle the truth that Miami handed the Patriots their asses.

Herrdoktor

The Patriots lead the AFC East. 
Miami isn't going to the playoffs.

End of story.

yeah they wont win the east next year either. Every dog has its day. They will take this into cheating one day.
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#23 GoPhins123
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[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"][QUOTE="GoPhins123"]

Notice how ESPN is the only one how made a big deal out of this. I guess they can't handle the truth that Miami handed the Patriots their asses.

detroitpistons0

The Patriots lead the AFC East. 
Miami isn't going to the playoffs.

End of story.

yeah they wont win the east next year either. Every dog has its day. They will take this into cheating one day.

Anything can happen any year, its foolish to make predictions now.

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Watching tape of other teams playing is not against NFL rules, so no the dolphins are not cheating.
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#25 detroitpistons0
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Watching tape of other teams playing is not against NFL rules, so no the dolphins are not cheating. Spartacus23
this is audio. the gameplay movies dont have audio. this does.