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Of course New England is first and the Titans came in last.
The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?timbfox
19th isn't that bad. It's pretty much in the middle, so just call it an average offseason.
I like the list, I think it's pretty well done. Though I think I would have placed the 49ers in front of New England. I'm just happy to see that Houston wasn't on the first page. :P
The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?timbfox
The Bears 27th! Sure we lost Ian Scott and Thomas Jones but we got:
Greg Olsen, a great TE out of Miami were they struck gold with Devin Hester last year.
Garret Wolfe, 11th leading rusher in DIV-I history.
Chris Leak, a great backup for Rex Grossman plus they got him as an undreafted free agent.
Adam Archuleta, a great safety, Adam Archuleta and Mike Brown could make a dangerous combination.
The Bears got some great defensive talents in the draft also like Dan Buzin, Micheal Okwo, and Corey Graham
Looks pretty good to me.
The Bears 27th! Sure we lost Ian Scott and Thomas Jones but we got:
Greg Olsen, a great TE out of Miami were they struck gold with Devin Hester last year.
Garret Wolfe, 11th leading rusher in DIV-I history.
Chris Leak, a great backup for Rex Grossman plus they got him as an undreafted free agent.
Adam Archuleta, a great safety, Adam Archuleta and Mike Brown could make a dangerous combination.
The Bears got some great defensive talents in the draft also like Dan Buzin, Micheal Okwo, and Corey Graham
Looks pretty good to me.
Baseballguy17
Wolfe and Leak were good in college, but they most likely wont be in the NFL...although im rooting for Wolfe. Archuleta is horrible, he is average at best...all he has is a name but his skills are declining. Also I like the kid from Central Michigan, I think it was a nice steal.
Anyways, Dallas is 9th. Not bad I think. We upgraded our 3 biggest needs....OL, S, and Pass rush! Plus we got set up very nicely with a 1st round pick next year.
[QUOTE="dallas_cowboys3"]Hilarious! The Chargers at #24?!!!! The Raiders #3?! Packers #29?? Quite possibly the funniest sports thing I've ever seen.XSlyGOG
i expected chargers to be lower to be honest but mike turner isnt traded and the loss of edwards :( favorite MLB
I understand that but they have the greatest player in the league in LT, an amazing young linebackeer in Merriman, man just that's good enough to be in the top 15.[QUOTE="XSlyGOG"][QUOTE="dallas_cowboys3"]Hilarious! The Chargers at #24?!!!! The Raiders #3?! Packers #29?? Quite possibly the funniest sports thing I've ever seen.dallas_cowboys3
i expected chargers to be lower to be honest but mike turner isnt traded and the loss of edwards :( favorite MLB
I understand that but they have the greatest player in the league in LT, an amazing young linebackeer in Merriman, man just that's good enough to be in the top 15.These are the off-season moves, it's about the players who they lost and gained, not who they already have.
[QUOTE="dallas_cowboys3"][QUOTE="XSlyGOG"][QUOTE="dallas_cowboys3"]Hilarious! The Chargers at #24?!!!! The Raiders #3?! Packers #29?? Quite possibly the funniest sports thing I've ever seen.geaux321
i expected chargers to be lower to be honest but mike turner isnt traded and the loss of edwards :( favorite MLB
I understand that but they have the greatest player in the league in LT, an amazing young linebackeer in Merriman, man just that's good enough to be in the top 15.These are the off-season moves, it's about the players who they lost and gained, not who they already have.
Wait wait, so these aren't what they expect teams to finish through the season? This is just how well they did in the off-season?[QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?thetombradyhate
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
[QUOTE="geaux321"][QUOTE="dallas_cowboys3"][QUOTE="XSlyGOG"][QUOTE="dallas_cowboys3"]Hilarious! The Chargers at #24?!!!! The Raiders #3?! Packers #29?? Quite possibly the funniest sports thing I've ever seen.dallas_cowboys3
i expected chargers to be lower to be honest but mike turner isnt traded and the loss of edwards :( favorite MLB
I understand that but they have the greatest player in the league in LT, an amazing young linebackeer in Merriman, man just that's good enough to be in the top 15.These are the off-season moves, it's about the players who they lost and gained, not who they already have.
Wait wait, so these aren't what they expect teams to finish through the season? This is just how well they did in the off-season?Right.
[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?timbfox
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
They can't afford to lose Bob Sanders though, who is considered to be the core of the defense. He is the main reason they won in the playoffs.
The Pack seem to have had a better off season than the Colts, though.
[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?timbfox
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]I suppose having the 18th best offseason isn't so bad. Though, I thought the Panthers had one of the best drafts this year and I liked the move of picking up Carr from Houston.
Espurs117
I would of put them in the top 10.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing..
[QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?detroitpistons0
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
They can't afford to lose Bob Sanders though, who is considered to be the core of the defense. He is the main reason they won in the playoffs.
The Pack seem to have had a better off season than the Colts, though.
They didn't lose Bob Sanders, he is still under contract. And I agree, if they lost Bob, that would be a huge loss.
[QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?thetombradyhate
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
that's because the Colts had much better players than the Packers.;)
[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?timbfox
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
that's because the Colts had much better players than the Packers.;)
Ooh, I think someone is calling you out tombradyhater. By the way, that was nice timbfox.[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?timbfox
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
that's because the Colts had much better players than the Packers.;)
[QUOTE="detroitpistons0"][QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?timbfox
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
They can't afford to lose Bob Sanders though, who is considered to be the core of the defense. He is the main reason they won in the playoffs.
The Pack seem to have had a better off season than the Colts, though.
They didn't lose Bob Sanders, he is still under contract. And I agree, if they lost Bob, that would be a huge loss.
Well, I never said they lost him, I just pointed out a situation.
[QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?detroitpistons0
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
They can't afford to lose Bob Sanders though, who is considered to be the core of the defense. He is the main reason they won in the playoffs.
The Pack seem to have had a better off season than the Colts, though.
Dude....Bob Sanders IS NOT the reason the Colts won in the playoffs if their is one player to credit as the reason that they won in the playoffs it would be Peyton Manning he is the leader of the best offense in the league and the leader of the Colts
[QUOTE="detroitpistons0"][QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?Captious
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
They can't afford to lose Bob Sanders though, who is considered to be the core of the defense. He is the main reason they won in the playoffs.
The Pack seem to have had a better off season than the Colts, though.
Dude....Bob Sanders IS NOT the reason the Colts won in the playoffs if their is one player to credit as the reason that they won in the playoffs it would be Peyton Manning he is the leader of the best offense in the league and the leader of the Colts
you obviously didn't watch the playoffs then. peyton had a terrible playoffs (except for the second half of the Patriots game. I will say that he did have a couple of key plays in each game though. But surely the defensive was the main reason for their success. You can't go from one of the worst rated rush defenses in NFL history to shutting down everyones rush in the playoffs and not be the key to victory.
...#6 that sucks, ho well better luck next year my dear Seahawks :P (j/k) let me show my true feelings about this
YES!!! TAKE THAT STEELERS!!! SEAHAWKS ARE GOING ALL THE WAY THIS YEAR AND WINNING WITHOUT ANY STUPID CHEATING REFS TO STOP US!!!
...thats all
I finally decided to look at this topic. I didn't know my Jags ranked that low. Of course, failing to fix the QB situation........CommanderShiroThey could have taken Brady Quinn.
[QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="timbfox"]The Colts 19th!!?!!, whatever. Everybody says that we lost so many KEY players. They were average players at best. We are hurting in the LB department, but come on......19th?thetombradyhate
yes, I did expect higher. Again they lost average players....Cato June was maybe are biggest loss.
that's because the Colts had much better players than the Packers.;)
Just to add more to my argument:
Colts (major) Loses:
Brandon Stokley, WR
Montae Reagor, DT Dominic Rhodes, RB
Nick Harper, CB
Cato June, LB
Mike Doss, S
Jason David, CB
Packers (major) Loses:
William Henderson, FB David Martin, TE
So bascially the way I see it is the Colts lost 7 starter or high impact backupsbut the Packers only lost 2. Plus one of them (Henderson) retired and his impact was really decreasing last year
Just to add more to my argument:
Colts (major) Loses:
Brandon Stokley, WR
Montae Reagor, DT Dominic Rhodes, RB
Nick Harper, CB
Cato June, LB
Mike Doss, S
Jason David, CBPackers (major) Loses:
William Henderson, FB David Martin, TE
So bascially the way I see it is the Colts lost 7 starter or high impact backupsbut the Packers only lost 2. Plus one of them (Henderson) retired and his impact was really decreasing last year
thetombradyhate
I will agree we lost more but not by much. You need to edit your list of Colts players.
Monte Reagor: Got in a car wreck last year afterthe 2nd or 3rd week last year. He did not play much at all last year.
Brandon Stokely: Had 1 great year with the Colts. After that he might of played a total of 10 games in the 2 seasons. Plus Anthony Gonzalez will be better.
Mike Doss: A great player, but played 6 games last year. I wish we had kept.
Dominik Rhodes: HE IS A BACKUP RB.......that is it...Addai is better
Jason David: He is the one I wish we tried to keep. We do have Keaho and Jackson that should gill in nicely
Nick Harper: He had a great year last year, but he is getting old....and probably already his best years.
Cato June: Our biggest loss on the field and off. An average LB that glued our defense.......I don't think I neeed to remind you how our rushing dfense was.
So the Colts lost 1 high impact player, Cato June and maybe a potential great player in Mike Doss
It wasn't Keyshawn's fault he was released by the Panther's front office...;)
As for your shock that the Panther's offseason was ranked so high, I totally agree. Not only did they draft those two great talents, but they also drafted the best center in the draft in Kalil(according to analysists) and I think one of the sleepers in the draft, Ryne Robinson who can fill in nicely as the kick/punt returner.
How can you call both your to staring CB's not high impact players? If the Packers lost Al Harris and Charles Woodson I would consider it a horrid offseasonthetombradyhate
Lets not go overboard and call Jason David and Nick Harper stars.......Mike Doss maybe (he hhasn't played that much to be considered). The main reason I can call the non high impact is that they are not high impact players. Kelvin Hayden had the play of the year (interception return for a TD in SB). Also with Bill Polian making the draft decisions, I will take my chances. Marlin Jackson, Keohu(?), Hayden, and Sanders........I think our DBs are just fine.
Just to add more to my argument:
Colts (major) Loses:
Brandon Stokley, WR
Montae Reagor, DT Dominic Rhodes, RB
Nick Harper, CB
Cato June, LB
Mike Doss, S
Jason David, CBPackers (major) Loses:
William Henderson, FB David Martin, TE
So bascially the way I see it is the Colts lost 7 starter or high impact backupsbut the Packers only lost 2. Plus one of them (Henderson) retired and his impact was really decreasing last year
thetombradyhate
how is loosing Ahman Green not a major loss?
[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"]Just to add more to my argument:
Colts (major) Loses:
Brandon Stokley, WR
Montae Reagor, DT Dominic Rhodes, RB
Nick Harper, CB
Cato June, LB
Mike Doss, S
Jason David, CBPackers (major) Loses:
William Henderson, FB David Martin, TE
So bascially the way I see it is the Colts lost 7 starter or high impact backupsbut the Packers only lost 2. Plus one of them (Henderson) retired and his impact was really decreasing last year
timbfox
how is loosing Ahman Green not a major loss?
[QUOTE="timbfox"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"]Just to add more to my argument:
Colts (major) Loses:
Brandon Stokley, WR
Montae Reagor, DT Dominic Rhodes, RB
Nick Harper, CB
Cato June, LB
Mike Doss, S
Jason David, CBPackers (major) Loses:
William Henderson, FB David Martin, TE
So bascially the way I see it is the Colts lost 7 starter or high impact backupsbut the Packers only lost 2. Plus one of them (Henderson) retired and his impact was really decreasing last year
thetombradyhate
how is loosing Ahman Green not a major loss?
no problem, so are we in agreement that Nick Harper and Jason David do not add up to a Woodson and Harris?
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