In-Depth Breakdown: Colts vs Cowboys

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#1 JackBurton
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Based on their supposed 2008 rosters, you breakdown the game:
How can Team A win, what does Team B need to do, what would actually happen, etc.

Indianapolis Colts vs. Dallas Cowboys

Break it down

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#3 wallymartin
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Hmm, this is a toughy.

Sadly, I'll have to lean towards the Colts. I have no doubt that Terence Newman would do his job, but the rest of the Dallas secondary may flounder. I don't think it would be a blowout, but I would expect the Colts to win 6 or 7 out of 10 matchups.

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Hmm, this is a toughy.

Sadly, I'll have to lean towards the Colts. I have no doubt that Terence Newman would do his job, but the rest of the Dallas secondary may flounder. I don't think it would be a blowout, but I would expect the Colts to win 6 or 7 out of 10 matchups.

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You can go die! Cowboys would win 10 out of 10 matchups!
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The Clots. And no I did not typo.
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The Boys win. Beat them down last time, and they were better and Dallas was worse.

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Hmm tuffy...Im go colts because most of thier D-line will be healthy for this go around

im say close game they win by 3

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I picks the Cowboys, they have guns and can shoot the horses(Colts) easily before they can charge them.
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#10 Darth_Revan_666
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I picks the Cowboys, they have guns and can shoot the horses(Colts) easily before they can charge them. WhiteSamurai209

A Colt is a gun you know? Though the idea of Cowboys shooting guns with guns sounds pretty funny to me :P

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[QUOTE="WhiteSamurai209"]I picks the Cowboys, they have guns and can shoot the horses(Colts) easily before they can charge them. Darth_Revan_666

A Colt is a gun you know? Though the idea of Cowboys shooting guns with guns sounds pretty funny to me :P

Yes i agree :lol:

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I hate the cowboys but I would have to pick them over what seems to be an aging offense in the colts.
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Colts would blow the Cowgirls out if they played eachother next season. The Colts have the better offense and their defense is good enough that they would win with ease.
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Colts would blow the Cowgirls out if they played eachother next season. The Colts have the better offense and their defense is good enough that they would win with ease.Ngamer05

lol what a joke post. Blowout? With ease? Come again? Stop hating ngirl. First off the Colts defense wouldn't do anything special. This game would be a shootout and a late turnover would put a W next to the team who forced it. I don't see the Colts getting much pressure vs Dallas O-line. So no their defense isn't "good enough to win with ease". Marlin Jackson vs T.O? Witten vs the no-name LBs? lol Bob Sanders can't cover everyone, get real. Plus Romo can run and im sure he would spy on Romo everynow and then like they did with VY. Leaving T.O. and company to do their thing. Stop hating because the Cowboys keep shutting down the "best player in the league" in Steve Smith and they keep beating the crap out of your team on your own home year after year.

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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Colts would blow the Cowgirls out if they played eachother next season. The Colts have the better offense and their defense is good enough that they would win with ease.Espurs117

lol what a joke post. Blowout? With ease? Come again? Stop hating ngirl. First off the Colts defense wouldn't do anything special. This game would be a shootout and a late turnover would put a W next to the team who forced it. I don't see the Colts getting much pressure vs Dallas O-line. So no their defense isn't "good enough to win with ease". Marlin Jackson vs T.O? Witten vs the no-name LBs? lol Bob Sanders can't cover everyone, get real. Plus Romo can run and im sure he would spy on Romo everynow and then like they did with VY. Leaving T.O. and company to do their thing. Stop hating because the Cowboys keep shutting down the "best player in the league" in Steve Smith and they keep beating the crap out of your team on your own home year after year.

:lol: at you thinking the Colts would not double cover Owens and make some other Cowgirl beat them. I mean who else do they have besides Witten and Owens that pose a threat offensively. Marion Barber is a good runningback, but definitely not a fast one either. And how Steve Smith gets brought into this is beyond me. :|

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[QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Colts would blow the Cowgirls out if they played eachother next season. The Colts have the better offense and their defense is good enough that they would win with ease.Ngamer05

lol what a joke post. Blowout? With ease? Come again? Stop hating ngirl. First off the Colts defense wouldn't do anything special. This game would be a shootout and a late turnover would put a W next to the team who forced it. I don't see the Colts getting much pressure vs Dallas O-line. So no their defense isn't "good enough to win with ease". Marlin Jackson vs T.O? Witten vs the no-name LBs? lol Bob Sanders can't cover everyone, get real. Plus Romo can run and im sure he would spy on Romo everynow and then like they did with VY. Leaving T.O. and company to do their thing. Stop hating because the Cowboys keep shutting down the "best player in the league" in Steve Smith and they keep beating the crap out of your team on your own home year after year.

:lol: at you thinking the Colts would not double cover Owens and make some other Cowgirl beat them. I mean who else do they have besides Witten and Owens that pose a threat offensively. Marion Barber is a good runningback, but definitely not a fast one either. And how Steve Smith gets brought into this is beyond me. :|

Andre Johnson > Steve Smith

Just throwing that out there.

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[QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Colts would blow the Cowgirls out if they played eachother next season. The Colts have the better offense and their defense is good enough that they would win with ease.Ngamer05

lol what a joke post. Blowout? With ease? Come again? Stop hating ngirl. First off the Colts defense wouldn't do anything special. This game would be a shootout and a late turnover would put a W next to the team who forced it. I don't see the Colts getting much pressure vs Dallas O-line. So no their defense isn't "good enough to win with ease". Marlin Jackson vs T.O? Witten vs the no-name LBs? lol Bob Sanders can't cover everyone, get real. Plus Romo can run and im sure he would spy on Romo everynow and then like they did with VY. Leaving T.O. and company to do their thing. Stop hating because the Cowboys keep shutting down the "best player in the league" in Steve Smith and they keep beating the crap out of your team on your own home year after year.

:lol: at you thinking the Colts would not double cover Owens and make some other Cowgirl beat them. I mean who else do they have besides Witten and Owens that pose a threat offensively. Marion Barber is a good runningback, but definitely not a fast one either. And how Steve Smith gets brought into this is beyond me. :|

:lol: You think Owens didn't get double covered last year? lmao look at the stats. It don't matter. lol leave it to a Panthers fan to think speed is the most important thing for a RB, im sure that worked out with the Panthers and DeAngelo Williams :lol: Who do they have besides Owens and Witten? lol im sure that is enough for any team, but that aint all they have. A pro bowl RB in Barber, a speedy back in Jones....you like speed don't you? Did you forget Dallas is a 2 rb team? Crayton has the occasional good game everynow and then. Terry Glenn when healthy is as good as any 2nd receiver in the league. Oh and yeah that other weapon Dallas has is the O-line. The most important weapon. Not to mention a pro bowl QB who we all saw make a great debut......in Carolina :lol:

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#18 JackBurton
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Andre Johnson > Steve Smith

Just throwing that out there.

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When asked, ESPN's Tom Jackson offered this opinion... Four active receivers are future HOF'ers: Owens, Harrison, Moss, and Steve Smith.

Just throwing that out there.

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Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).
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Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Ngamer05
What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.
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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Bobbles
What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

Guys, can we get BOT? I dont wanna be dragged into this Panthers-Cowboys, Bobbles-Ngamer argument for absoulutley nothing.

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Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Ngamer05

Your submission has been noted.

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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Bobbles
What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

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#24 Bobbles
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[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Ngamer05

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!
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Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!Bobbles

Steve Smith does lot of screen catches, Witten doesn't.

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#26 Espurs117
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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Bobbles

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

:lol:

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[QUOTE="Bobbles"]Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!Darth_Revan_666

Steve Smith does lot of screen catches, Witten doesn't.

That's because they gotta find plays for him to get the ball, when a good corner like Newman goes on him he gets shutdown....then throws a fit and gets ejected :lol:

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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Bobbles

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

One season justifies a player being better than another. ROFL :lol::lol:

You are a ******* joke thinking Crayton? is a good receiver. He's 29 years old and has had only ONE decent season. I just know I'd take the Panthers current receiving core over the Cowgirl's.

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[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Espurs117

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

:lol:

*cough** and Owens continues to cry like a *****, "he's my quarterback" **cough* LMFAO

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[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Ngamer05

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.[/QUOTE

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

One season justifies a player being better than another. ROFL :lol::lol:

You are a ******* joke thinking Crayton? is a good receiver. He's 29 years old and has had only ONE decent season. I just know I'd take the Panthers current receiving core over the Cowgirl's.

You call that a receiving core? That was my whole point dummy, Crayton is better then both of them and he's not even that good. Muhammad was better years ago, but now I wouldn't want that dude on my team. Hackett last year played with one of the best QBs in the NFC and did what? Jack s***. Crayton has always been that third or fourth option for Dallas. Last year he was their third option and he put up better stats then Muhammad when he was considered the #2 option on the Bears. Comprende puto? Just having Owens and Witten alone is better then the entire receiving core on the Panthers. Their yards and TD's combined were more then all the players you named. It's not even close. Add in Crayton and a healthy Glenn, pleeeasee. The Panthers are a joke.
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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Bobbles

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

One season justifies a player being better than another. ROFL :lol::lol:

You are a ******* joke thinking Crayton? is a good receiver. He's 29 years old and has had only ONE decent season. I just know I'd take the Panthers current receiving core over the Cowgirl's.

You call that a receiving core? That was my whole point dummy, Crayton is better then both of them and he's not even that good. Muhammad was better years ago, but now I wouldn't want that dude on my team. Hackett last year played with one of the best QBs in the NFC and did what? Jack s***. Crayton has always been that third or fourth option for Dallas. Last year he was their third option and he put up better stats then Muhammad when he was considered the #2 option on the Bears.Comprende puto? Just having Owens and Witten alone is better then the entire receiving core on the Panthers. Their yards and TD's combined were more then all the players you named. It's not even close. Add in Crayton and a healthy Glenn, pleeeasee. The Panthers are a joke.

Now you're going to compare him to Muhammad's seasons with Chicago. :| Have you realized how anemic their offense and quarterback position has been? Just face it kid, Owens is the only Cowgirl wide receiver that is good (Glenn when healthy).

As far as Glenn goes, incase you havn't read the paper recently, he might not even be Cowgirl come this fall. Injuries continue to hold him back and Jerry surprisingly, doesn't want to waste anymore money. So if that happens, you're really delusional if you think that the Panther's receiving core isn't better.

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Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten (11.9), LOL!Bobbles

That's an unfair criticism. Let's look at his QB's last year:

  • Delhomme, 55 of 86, 64% cmp, 624 yds, 8 TD, 1 INT, 208 yds gm, 111.8 passer rtg
  • Testaverde, 94 of 172, 54.7%, 952 yds, 5 TD, 6 INT, 136.0 YPG, 65.8 passer rtg
  • David Carr, 73 of 136, 53.7%, 635 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT, 105.8 YPG, 58.3 passer rtg
  • Matt Moore, 63 of 111, 56.8, 730 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT, 81.1 YPG, 67.0 passer rtg

Panthers' passing offense: 2941 yds, 19 TDs

  • Steve Smith: 87 rec, 1002 yds, 11.5 YPC, 7 TD
  • Jeff King(TE): 46 rec, 406 yds, 8.8 YPC, 2 TD
  • Drew Carter: 38 rec, 517 yds, 13.6 YPC, 4 TD
  • Keary Colbert: 32 rec, 322 yds, 10.4 YPC, 0 TD

How much of the playbook was reduced for Carr & Moore, and/or the field cut in half for them? Two W's (in 3 gms) with Jake -- only 5 in 13 gms w/out him. If Delhomme and Smith are injured in week-3... 3-13!

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[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Ngamer05

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

One season justifies a player being better than another. ROFL :lol::lol:

You are a ******* joke thinking Crayton? is a good receiver. He's 29 years old and has had only ONE decent season. I just know I'd take the Panthers current receiving core over the Cowgirl's.

You call that a receiving core? That was my whole point dummy, Crayton is better then both of them and he's not even that good. Muhammad was better years ago, but now I wouldn't want that dude on my team. Hackett last year played with one of the best QBs in the NFC and did what? Jack s***. Crayton has always been that third or fourth option for Dallas. Last year he was their third option and he put up better stats then Muhammad when he was considered the #2 option on the Bears.Comprende puto? Just having Owens and Witten alone is better then the entire receiving core on the Panthers. Their yards and TD's combined were more then all the players you named. It's not even close. Add in Crayton and a healthy Glenn, pleeeasee. The Panthers are a joke.

Now you're going to compare him to Muhammad's seasons with Chicago. :| Have you realized how anemic their offense and quarterback position has been? Just face it kid, Owens is the only Cowgirl wide receiver that is good (Glenn when healthy).

As far as Glenn goes, incase you havn't read the paper recently, he might not even be Cowgirl come this fall. Injuries continue to hold him back and Jerry surprisingly, doesn't want to waste anymore money. So if that happens, you're really delusional if you think that the Panther's receiving core isn't better.

Wrong, Witten and T.O alone are enough to be better then the Panthers' core. Also, agreed that the Bears offense was trash, but Crayton is a 3rd option!!! If he was the 2nd leading receiver on the team, then sure say what you want. However, Witten and Owens BOTH had over 1000 yards, do you expect the dude to get 1000 as well? He had about 700 yards and 7 TDS, not bad considering there are two 1000 yard receivers on the team. Look at the Patriots last year, they had two 1000 yard receivers as well, Stallworth was 3rd on the team with the same amount of yards as Crayton, less TDs. When you can get that kind of production from 3 guys, then obviously the receiving core is pretty good. Good luck getting two 1000 yard receivers next year in Carolina(not happening).
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[QUOTE="Bobbles"] Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten (11.9), LOL!JackBurton

That's an unfair criticism. Let's look at his QB's last year:

  • Delhomme, 55 of 86, 64% cmp, 624 yds, 8 TD, 1 INT, 208 yds gm, 111.8 passer rtg
  • Testaverde, 94 of 172, 54.7%, 952 yds, 5 TD, 6 INT, 136.0 YPG, 65.8 passer rtg
  • David Carr, 73 of 136, 53.7%, 635 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT, 105.8 YPG, 58.3 passer rtg
  • Matt Moore, 63 of 111, 56.8, 730 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT, 81.1 YPG, 67.0 passer rtg

Panthers' passing offense: 2941 yds, 19 TDs

  • Steve Smith: 87 rec, 1002 yds, 11.5 YPC, 7 TD
  • Jeff King(TE): 46 rec, 406 yds, 8.8 YPC, 2 TD
  • Drew Carter: 38 rec, 517 yds, 13.6 YPC, 4 TD
  • Keary Colbert: 32 rec, 322 yds, 10.4 YPC, 0 TD

How much of the playbook was reduced for Carr & Moore, and/or the field cut in half for them? Two W's (in 3 gms) with Jake -- only 5 in 13 gms w/out him. If Delhomme and Smith are injured in week-3... 3-13!

Thanks, I didn't realize that Smith had that many QBs last year:roll: It's still funny to see a TE with a higher YPC then apparently the best WR in the league.

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[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Ngamer05

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

:lol:

*cough** and Owens continues to cry like a *****, "he's my quarterback" **cough* LMFAO

Yeah its the emotion of losing a playoff game. Im surprised you watched the playoffs, most Panthers fans turn to Draft talk come December. Yup it is his quarterback. lol aint no Panther WR gonna cry for any of your s**** qbs. lmao. Maybe Steve Smith goes into the GMS office and cries every offseason saying "OMG GET ME A QB!" lmao. Remember last year all that s*** you were talking about the Cowboys? And how you were gonna beat down Dallas and what not? Yeah then what? LOL you shut the f*** up and stay quiet for the rest of the year. Don't even say anything, just act like it never happen. Get ready to dissapear again this year. Even lost a sig bet to Houston, and you were so confident talking playoffs. LMAO.

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[QUOTE="JackBurton"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"] Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last yearwhich was less then Witten (11.9), LOL!Bobbles

That's an unfaircriticism. Let's look at his QB's last year:

  • Delhomme, 55 of 86, 64% cmp, 624 yds, 8 TD, 1 INT, 208 yds gm, 111.8 rtg
  • Testaverde, 94 of 172, 54.7%, 952 yds, 5 TD, 6 INT, 136.0 YPG, 65.8 rtg
  • David Carr, 73 of 136, 53.7%, 635 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT, 105.8 YPG, 58.3 rtg
  • Matt Moore, 63 of 111, 56.8, 730 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT, 81.1 YPG, 67.0 rtg

Panthers' passing offense: 2941 yds, 19 TDs

  • Steve Smith: 87 rec, 1002 yds, 11.5 YPC, 7 TD
  • Jeff King(TE): 46 rec, 406 yds, 8.8 YPC, 2 TD
  • Drew Carter: 38 rec, 517 yds, 13.6 YPC, 4 TD
  • Keary Colbert: 32 rec, 322 yds, 10.4 YPC, 0 TD

How much of the playbook was reduced for Carr & Moore, and/or the field cut in half for them? Two W's (in 3 gms) with Jake -- only 5 in 13 gms w/out him. If Delhomme and Smith are injured in week-3... 3-13!

Thanks, I didn't realize that Smith had that many QBs last year:roll: It's still funny to see a TE with a higher YPC then apparently the best WR in the league.

There's no need for a :roll: . First of all, I made your Dallas' receiver corps > Carolina's argument for you... look at their numbers. Secondly, what would Dallas' numbers look like across the board if Romo is lost to injury, and we have Panther's QB as our options for 13 weeks?? :roll: That's what i meant. Third, how does T.O. respond if those were the circumstances? (rhetorical question) Lastly, I'll say it again -- one cannot blame Smith entirely for his sub-par YPC season last year. Look at his 05 & 06 numbers. 2007 was an anomaly season. He's not slowing down, too old, beat down, etc. Any WR needs a decent QB ... Keyshawn ranted the issue for decade.
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[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="JackBurton"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"] Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last yearwhich was less then Witten (11.9), LOL!JackBurton

That's an unfaircriticism. Let's look at his QB's last year:

  • Delhomme, 55 of 86, 64% cmp, 624 yds, 8 TD, 1 INT, 208 yds gm, 111.8 rtg
  • Testaverde, 94 of 172, 54.7%, 952 yds, 5 TD, 6 INT, 136.0 YPG, 65.8 rtg
  • David Carr, 73 of 136, 53.7%, 635 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT, 105.8 YPG, 58.3 rtg
  • Matt Moore, 63 of 111, 56.8, 730 yds, 3 TD, 5 INT, 81.1 YPG, 67.0 rtg

Panthers' passing offense: 2941 yds, 19 TDs

  • Steve Smith: 87 rec, 1002 yds, 11.5 YPC, 7 TD
  • Jeff King(TE): 46 rec, 406 yds, 8.8 YPC, 2 TD
  • Drew Carter: 38 rec, 517 yds, 13.6 YPC, 4 TD
  • Keary Colbert: 32 rec, 322 yds, 10.4 YPC, 0 TD

How much of the playbook was reduced for Carr & Moore, and/or the field cut in half for them? Two W's (in 3 gms) with Jake -- only 5 in 13 gms w/out him. If Delhomme and Smith are injured in week-3... 3-13!

Thanks, I didn't realize that Smith had that many QBs last year:roll: It's still funny to see a TE with a higher YPC then apparently the best WR in the league.

There's no need for a :roll: . First of all, I made your Dallas' receiver corps > Carolina's argument for you... look at their numbers. Secondly, what would Dallas' numbers look like across the board if Romo is lost to injury, and we have Panther's QB as our options for 13 weeks?? :roll: That's what i meant. Third, how does T.O. respond if those were the circumstances? (rhetorical question) Lastly, I'll say it again -- one cannot blame Smith entirely for his sub-par YPC season last year. Look at his 05 & 06 numbers. 2007 was an anomaly season. He's not slowing down, too old, beat down, etc. Any WR needs a decent QB ... Keyshawn ranted the issue for decade.

Once again, thanks for pointing out the obvious. I never said anything about Smith slowing down or sucking. I already know its an unfair comparison dude, but like I said it's funny that a TE has a higher YPC then the best WR in the league according to ngirl.
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Ngamer and Bobbles, would you STFU and get BOT before we have another war!?!?!:evil:

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Ngamer and Bobbles, would you STFU and get BOT before we have another war!?!?!:evil:

speedjunkie4

let me tell u something speedjunkie: a little argument once in a while makes watching football a lot more fun. just like the saturday night when bucs will be playing the boys the next day i will probably be $hitting my pants because i talked a lot of $hit to my friends who are cowboys fans(theres a lot around here where i live) and on top of that we got espurs and bobles here. a little trashtalking wont hurt anyone and i think it makes the game more fun

p.s: f*ck CAR and DAL

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[QUOTE="Ngamer05"][QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Espurs117

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

:lol:

*cough** and Owens continues to cry like a *****, "he's my quarterback" **cough* LMFAO

Yeah its the emotion of losing a playoff game. Im surprised you watched the playoffs, most Panthers fans turn to Draft talk come December. Yup it is his quarterback. lol aint no Panther WR gonna cry for any of your s**** qbs. lmao. Maybe Steve Smith goes into the GMS office and cries every offseason saying "OMG GET ME A QB!" lmao. Remember last year all that s*** you were talking about the Cowboys? And how you were gonna beat down Dallas and what not? Yeah then what? LOL you shut the f*** up and stay quiet for the rest of the year. Don't even say anything, just act like it never happen. Get ready to dissapear again this year. Even lost a sig bet to Houston, and you were so confident talking playoffs. LMAO.

:lol: ok because he has a history of getting emotional in a postive manner? face it Esquirt, T.O. is a drama queen and whines like a 'lil ***** when things go wrong and his team isn't winning.

"He's my quarterback" -PRICELESS

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[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"][QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="Ngamer05"]Just can't wait until the Cowboys struggle, then all of the Cowgirl fans will see the real Owens come out (a whiney 'lil *****).Ngamer05

What makes you think the Cowboys will struggle? Just wait till the Panthers miss the playoffs again playing in that division, what a joke. Who do the Panthers have on offense besides of Steve Smith? No one.

D.J. Hackett? An older Muhammad, but still a productive receiver who is just a few months older than your precious Owens. And if Dwayne Jarrett can get his act together, he could turn out to be a big producer.

Exactly, no one. Crayton>All of them. Crayton had more TD's then Hackett, Muhammad, and Jarrett combined last year. He had more yards then both of them and he was on a team that had two 1000 yard receivers. All you just said made me laugh, because no team fears any of those players. Like I said, the Panthers don't have jack after Steve Smith, who only averaged 11.5 ypc last year which was less then Witten(11.9), LOL!

:lol:

*cough** and Owens continues to cry like a *****, "he's my quarterback" **cough* LMFAO

Yeah its the emotion of losing a playoff game. Im surprised you watched the playoffs, most Panthers fans turn to Draft talk come December. Yup it is his quarterback. lol aint no Panther WR gonna cry for any of your s**** qbs. lmao. Maybe Steve Smith goes into the GMS office and cries every offseason saying "OMG GET ME A QB!" lmao. Remember last year all that s*** you were talking about the Cowboys? And how you were gonna beat down Dallas and what not? Yeah then what? LOL you shut the f*** up and stay quiet for the rest of the year. Don't even say anything, just act like it never happen. Get ready to dissapear again this year. Even lost a sig bet to Houston, and you were so confident talking playoffs. LMAO.

:lol: ok because he has a history of getting emotional in a postive manner? face it Esquirt, T.O. is a drama queen and whines like a 'lil ***** when things go wrong and his team isn't winning.

"He's my quarterback" -PRICELESS

LOL I don't remember T.O ever getting mad during a game because he is getting shutdown....getting so mad he verbally assaulted a ref and got ejected. Oh wait that happen to Steve Smith, but yeah your right T.O. is the only one who whines when the team aint winning. LOL at least T.O. aint dumb enough to get kicked out of a game. Also you don't have to worry about him whining about not winning, he isn't in the situation Steve Smith is in :lol:

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Ngamer and Bobbles, would you STFU and get BOT before we have another war!?!?!:evil:

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Im sick of you crying! Stop it! Grow some balls!

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I think this has gone about as far as I'm willing to let it go.