NFL Union Pick'em- Week 17

You're not going to be seeing as many Pick'em Updates on the main page.  I'm not feeling up to it.  So the important stuff will be in here.

Week 15 Leaderboard
Jrodsly- 15*
ThunderEight- 13*
sfgiantsfan- 13*
Icekoldwater- 12*
doa- 12

God, Jrod has been on a roll lately, and is somehow in the Top 5.

Overall Standings
wallymartin- 153+8=161
geaux- 150+10=160
CommanderShiro- 151+8=159
sfgiantsfan- 144+13*=157
Jrodsly- 142+15*=157
Gamerman-146+9=155
theseed- 148+7=155
Slash-Omni- 144+10=154
jswaim- 145+8=153
2tontom- 145+8=153
oscarx- 143+10=153
ND_gamer- 140+10=150
doa- 138+12=150
Drunkenmasta- 141+8=149
thetombradyhater- 143+6=149
bgres- 139+9=148
billy- 140+8=148
Espurs- 143+5=148
Goliath_unit- 123+10=133
bloody1f4- 77+10=87
dallas_cowboys- 80+7=87
Detroit pistons- 74+11=85
Spartacus- 70+9=79
ThunderEight- 63+13*=76
HumanTorch- 50+11=61
Icekoldwater- 43+12*=55
Need2sp33d- 42+9=51
LINKloco- 22+10=32
Skaterfool- 13+5=18
GoPhins- 13+dnp=13
PeterTimpa- 11+dnp=11
Spykezilla- 10+dnp=10
eaglesfan- 9+dnp=9

It's the final week of regular season pickage, so your opportunities to gain ground are quickly dissappearing. Take the points wherever you can.  They like fancy restaurants.

Also, we don't have any more Thursday games.  So you have more time to make up your mind.  We don't have a Monday Night game either, so you're picking the score for the Saturday game.

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: --  WSH: --

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Here are my picks:

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington The Giants are looking for a playoff spot, the need will drive them
NYG: 27  WSH: 14

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans Upset Special: Panthers have nothing to lose, Saints have nothing to gain
Cleveland @ HoustonTexans are on an emotional high, Carr needs the win
Detroit @ DallasCowboys need to build momentum for the playoffs, Lions will help
Jacksonville @ Kansas City Could go either way, gut says Jags
New England @ Tennessee This could be GotW if the Pats go full-out, I'll take Brady's experience
Oakland @ NY JetsJets should be happy that they're facing the worst team in the league
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati Parker will run, oh he will run
Seattle @ Tampa Bay Bucs are bad
St Louis @ Minnesota I trust Bulger more than I do Jackson, or whoever is starting for the Vikes
Arizona @ San DiegoChargers are deep, Warner is old
Atlanta @ PhiladelphiaYou used to be able to say that at least Vick won games.  Not anymore.
Buffalo @ BaltimoreRavens are looking for a bye
Miami @ IndianapolisColts have bye-hopes, WhoTF is Cleo Lemon?
San Francisco @ Denver49ers have nothing to lose, how convenient
Green Bay @ Chicago Believe it or not, I picked the Packers to make the playoffs.  A big enough win could put them in.

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 23  WSH: 27

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
AtlantaUS @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NY Giants: 27 Washington: 17

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

*Winners in bold.

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 21  WSH: 13

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington - id love for the Giants to loose, i dont know if it will happen..
NYG: 20  WSH: 10

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans - Carolinas done..
Cleveland @ Houston - definatly after that big win and Clevland using a 3rd stringer..
Detroit @ Dallas - it will be a blowout if Owens catches the ball..
Jacksonville @ Kansas City - if they run the ball well, i think they might have the game..
New England @ Tennessee - Titans are looking hot, but ive got to go with the Pats..
Oakland @ NY Jets - in the playoff hunt, playing the worst team in the leauge..
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati - im a fan, so its a must for me to pick them..
Seattle @ Tampa Bay - Tampa's doing terrible..
St Louis @ Minnesota - dont know what to say :?
Arizona @ San Diego - if LT runs the ball like he always does, they can beat the weak Cardinals..
Atlanta @ Philadelphia - if there running the ball well, they will win with the run against the 5th worst run defence..
Buffalo @ Baltimore - having a great year, will finish with a win..
Miami @ Indianapolis - Indi's just falling apart..
San Francisco @ Denver - they lost to Arizona, Denver pulled one off, Denver will pull this one off also..
Green Bay @ Chicago - the Packers are really fighting for a spot, they will bring it against the Bears and maybe even suprise the Bears by winning..

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 14  WSH: 27

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington he shoots a giant pearl 100 feet in the air like a cannonball!
NYG: 27  WSH: 17

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans would you like fries with that?
Cleveland @ Houston 2tontom needs some support for his team.
Detroit @ Dallashow bout them Cowboys? no really. they're actually good this year.
Jacksonville @ Kansas City wheee!
New England @ TennesseeUS if this hits(which it might not because the Pats are so good), then i win!!!
Oakland @ NY Jetsthe Jets are hot.
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati so are the Steelers.
Seattle @ Tampa Bay a rehash of the "Yuckaneers" of old.
St Louis @ Minnesotaim the open window maniac!
Arizona @ San DiegoLT vs Edge. one back's team is good, the other horrible.
Atlanta @ Philadelphiawhy the Falcons? why couldn't they be the Freebirds?
Buffalo @ Baltimorethey look like that Super Bowl 35 team.
Miami @ Indianapolis how can Indy lose to the Texans?! INDY!
San Francisco @ DenverJay Cutler is not a cool name.
Green Bay @ Chicagoit's a bird! it's a plane! it's.... Steve Bartman? ridding Devin Hester of an INT return for a TD? how dare you, Steve!

sorry for the red at the top. somethings screwy with the font. the NE/Ten game is my upset special(in case you are confused).

God, Jrod has been on a roll lately, and is somehow in the Top 5.- wallymartin

it must be the fact that i keep saying that i will screw it up and it hits..... IM CHANGING MY QUOTE!

Winners in bold

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington Wait... remember when Washington was supposed to be good? Yeah, back then, Pluto was still a planet.
NYG: 28  WSH: 6

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans New Orleans will not be playing starters for very long... Luckily they play Chris Weinke
Cleveland @ Houston Browns are playing a 3rd string QB, Texans coming off a huge win over Indy.
Detroit @ DallasHehe... poop. And with the first pick in the 2007 draft, Detroit selects... Calvin Johnson?
Jacksonville @ Kansas City Its tough for inconsistient teams to win at Arrowhead
New England @ Tennessee Vince Young puts himself as the front runner for rookie of the year
 Oakland @ NY Jets See below
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati I cant go against my Bengals
Seattle @ Tampa Bay Seattle won't win it, Tampa bay will lose it
St Louis @ Minnesota The Vikings run D will not have to do much as the Rams burn them through the air
Arizona @ San Diego Chargers need a win to clinch home field, but who needs starters when you play the cardinals?
Atlanta @ PhiladelphiaIt will be tough, but Jeff Garcia continues what could be a super bowl run
Buffalo @ Baltimore Buffalo is not good enough yet
Miami @ Indianapolis Indy this season is probably the weirdest team I've ever seen
San Francisco @ Denver The Bengals need all the help they can get...
Green Bay @ Chicago Brett Farve's (maybe) last game will not end well, possibly changing his retirement plans?

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington  Eli gets Tiki to the playoffs
NYG: 25  WSH: 19

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans  Even if Delhomme plays, the Saints will prevail 
Cleveland @ Houston  Maybe Dorsey can get them a win
Detroit @ Dallas  Marion Barber was shut down last week, but not this week
Jacksonville @ Kansas City  Call me a homer, but they still have something to play for
New England @ Tennessee  Vince Young finishes the season on a high note
Oakland @ NY Jets  Chad and the boys keep the Chiefs from the playoffs
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati  Carson lights the skies up after that horrible loss last week
Seattle @ Tampa Bay  Matt and Shaun want another shot at the Lombardi Trophy
St Louis @ Minnesota  Bulger passes his way to victory
Arizona @ San Diego  LT will get some more scores this week
Atlanta @ Philadelphia  Could be the game of the day
Buffalo @ Baltimore  The Ravens lock in that first round bye
Miami @ Indianapolis  The Colts can't stop anyone
San Francisco @ Denver  Cutler gets to experience the playoffs as a rookie
Green Bay @ Chicago (US)  Brett goes out on a high note

It is finished.

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: --  WSH: --

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati us
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 28 WSH: 24

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 24  WSH: 13

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago Upset Special

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 17  WSH: 13

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore(US)
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 17  WSH: 24

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago (US)

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 0 WSH: 47

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago - Upset Special

NY Giants @ WashingtonUS
NYG: 10 WSH: 14

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans 
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee 
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati 
Seattle @ Tampa Bay 
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia 
Buffalo @ Baltimore 
Miami @ Indianapolis 
San Francisco @ Denver 
Green Bay @ Chicago 

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington  The Giants have something to fight for. That is the playoffs, so they will try hard and win but realize it was all for nothing when they don't make it to the playoffs.
NYG: 23 WSH: 16

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans The Saints will do something called resting their starters. That means that they will rest their starters in order for their starters to start in the playoffs without worrying about injury.
Cleveland @ Houston Cleveland is better than Houston, and thats not saying much. Detroit @ Dallas Dallas does have something to fight for.
Jacksonville @ Kansas City Just because I got their jersey for Christmas. I asked for a Chargers jersey dammit!!!
New England @ Tennessee See Saints-Panthers. Plus, the Titans are looking too awesome to lose.
Oakland @ NY Jets No explaination needed.
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati The Bengals are going to put in their best effort of the season (and won't blow a 28-7 lead)
Seattle @ Tampa Bay Its a hard choice. Terrible Bucs or a team that has lost three striaght, two to 49ers and Cards.
St Louis @ Minnesota St Louis is going fight hard.
Arizona @ San Diego I know the Chargers starters will be rested, but I still believe that they will win.
Atlanta @ Philadelphia Eagles look hot lately with the division in their minds. Buffalo @ Baltimore Baltimore will rest their starters.
Miami @ Indianapolis Indy is going to fight hard and for the first time in a while, beat a team that is capable of beating them.
Green Bay @ Chicago Can the Packers make it into the playoffs? Only if they get past a Bears team with rested starters. US

It seems like many forgot about teams resting starters.

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: Lose  WSH: Win

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 28 WSH: 21

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 13 WSH: 21

Sunday, December 31 
Carolina @ New Orleans- 
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee-US
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 28  WSH: 13

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee US
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington (NY Giants)
NYG: 17  WSH: 14

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans (Carolina)
Cleveland @ Houston (Houston)
Detroit @ Dallas (Dallas)
Jacksonville @ Kansas City (Jacksonville)
New England @ Tennessee (New England)
Oakland @ NY Jets (NY Jets)
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati (Cincinnati)
Seattle @ Tampa Bay (Seattle)
St Louis @ Minnesota (St. Louis)
Arizona @ San Diego (San Diego)
Atlanta @ Philadelphia (Philadelphia)
Buffalo @ Baltimore (Baltimore)
Miami @ Indianapolis (Miami)
San Francisco @ Denver (San Fransisco) (Upset Special)
Green Bay @ Chicago (Chicago)

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 17  WSH: 24

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee  US
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 28  WSH: 13

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee US
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

theseed505

Saturday, December 30
NY Giants @ Washington
NYG: 21  WSH: 10

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans
Cleveland @ Houston
Detroit @ Dallas
Jacksonville @ Kansas City
New England @ Tennessee
Oakland @ NY Jets
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati
Seattle @ Tampa Bay
St Louis @ Minnesota
Arizona @ San Diego
Atlanta @ Philadelphia
Buffalo @ Baltimore
Miami @ Indianapolis
San Francisco @ Denver
Green Bay @ Chicago

NY Giants @ Washington-Errrrrr
NYG: 10 WSH: 21

Sunday, December 31
Carolina @ New Orleans-Carolina has way too many problems
Cleveland @ Houston-Beating Indy gave Houston some high spirits
Detroit @ Dallas-Even with recent problems, Dallas can never lose to Detroit
Jacksonville @ Kansas City-Will be a very close game, I'll go with my Jags because will I always have:D
New England @ Tennessee- USNew England will rest their starters, Tennessee will entertain their fans
Oakland @ NY Jets-Its Oakland against a team that has to win, well what do you think?
Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati-Cincinnati still has a chance to get that wildcard
Seattle @ Tampa Bay-Tampa Bay winning? Nah:|
St Louis @ Minnesota-St Louis can play offense when needed
Arizona @ San Diego-Welcome back to football Kurt, but its San Diego you're against
Atlanta @ Philadelphia-Jeff Garcia is HAWT
Buffalo @ Baltimore-Baltimore is playing for something right?
Miami @ Indianapolis-Indianapolis is at home, enough said doesn't matter if they rest starters or not. Well wait....
San Francisco @ Denver-Denver has to win and will
Green Bay @ Chicago-Chicago will rest their starters, Brett will have a shining moment