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#1 chAzN93
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we know the battles...but who would you start?

Oakland: JaMarcus Russell or Jeff Garcia?

I think jamarcus russell is the worst qb in the NFL...the raiders actually have a shot to do well with jeff garcia as the starter in my opinion 

Minnesota: Sage Rosenfels or Tarvaris Jackson?

i dont think it matters for the vikings...just as long as they run the ball

Detroit: Daunte Culpepper or Matthew Stafford?

start stafford...hes making too much money to no be takin the snaps 

San Francisco:Shaun Hill or Alex Smith?

shaun hill is the guy to beat imo...alex smith is a bust

New York: Mark Sanchez or Kellen Clemens?

start mark sanchez...talented kid...and the jets have a good running game...they can do well

Cleveland: Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn?

 Brady Quinn should be the starter...anderson didnt do a great job last year i thought and quinn has much more potential

Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman or Luke McCown orByron Leftwich?

this is tough..i actually think josh freeman should start...similar to the jets...the bucs have a good running game

 

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Oakland: Russell all the way.  Whether you like it or not, the guy is a heck of an athlete and a QB of the future, something Garcia could never be.

Minnesota: Thank you for not including you-know-who.  Tavaris is my pick, the guy just needs the instincts that will come with time.  Rosenfels is essentially a less mobile and weaker Jackson, so why bother?

Detroit: Agree.  Daunte hasn't been good since Oakland, but if the predictions are correct I hate to see Stafford ruin his career in Carr-like fashion.

San Fran: Doesn't matter.  Both are hot and cold depending on the day.  Pick one and shoot the other.

New York: Same as Detroit, except Sanchez will have a sorrounding crew and a snowball's chance.  Maybe this year's Matt Ryan.

Cleveland: Quinn, he led a horrible Notre Dame team to a decent standing, he might be able to do the same with the Browns with time.

Tampa Bay: Byron Leftwich.  He hasn't washed out like Culpepper, and there's no denying Freeman would be better off with a veteran to learn from.  Think Bledsoe-Romo relationship.

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Baltimore: Obviously Flacco will start, but until he was sick last year Troy Smith was winning the pre-season battle.  He may be small but he has the talent, drive, and character to be what everyone wanted Vick to be and it is a crying shame that this former Heisman winner went in the fifth round and has played second fiddle without a fair shot at starting his whole career.  Why couldn't Dallas have traded Henry to Baltimore instead of Detroit?

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#3 chAzN93
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Oakland: Russell all the way.  Whether you like it or not, the guy is a heck of an athlete and a QB of the future, something Garcia could never be.

Detroit: Agree.  Daunte hasn't been good since Oakland, but if the predictions are correct I hate to see Stafford ruin his career in Carr-like fashion.

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jamarcus is definately not a QB of the future...hes gonna have another terrible season and garcia will end up being the starter at the end

 

and on a team like the lions...i wont be surprised if stafford has a "carr-like" career 

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I think it does matter who the Vikings pick. Isnt the QB postion the only reason why the Vikings aren't SB contenders, just NFC North Contenders? That is what ive heard for the last 2 years at least.
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I think it does matter who the Vikings pick. Isnt the QB postion the only reason why the Vikings aren't SB contenders, just NFC North Contenders? That is what ive heard for the last 2 years at least. Espurs117

I believe he meant that between the two current options, they are unlikely to get significantly better play from picking A over B or vice versa. Their biggest choice right now is which QB is less likely to lose games for them.

As for the Raiders, I don't think it should surprise anyone if/when Garcia wins that job from Russell. He's made a career out of it lately.

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Raiders: jeff should mbut we all know about al davis :( jamarcus will start

Vikings:bret farve of course, we all know he'll play. but if he dies or something, than travaris, he showed true potiential in the last games of the season.

Browns:anderson all the way, the only reason his season was off was b/c of BE(braylon edwards) dropping everything.

jets:sanchez easily

Buccaners(dont know why noone sayed anything bout this,possibly most exciting lol): Leftwitch, better knowledge than mcown and freeman

49ers: shaun hill, he'll take them to the playoffs soon.

lions:Culpepper, he's been workin out and more expierence, with 3 years matt'll be startin though

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sorry, didnt see the bucs, forget my remark lol

p.s. how do u get a symbol by ur name?

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#8 wallymartin
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Browns:anderson all the way, the only reason his season was off was b/c of BE(braylon edwards) dropping everything.

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Dude only completed 56% of his passes in his Pro Bowl season, and threw 19 INTs. He wasn't very good even when he was supposedly one of the better QBs, and Edwards was a Pro Bowler as well. Had one year wonder written all over him.

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#9 wallymartin
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p.s. how do u get a symbol by ur name?

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I think you have to be Level 3, but I could be wrong. Check your preferences, and it should be in the images tab.

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Detroit: Culpepper should start and here's why.  Detroit is trying to correct the mistakes Millen made, which will take a long time but Stafford needs time to transition and being able to just watch and learn will help him out more than letting him get the crap beat out of him.

Oakland: Garcia will be the starter eventually and Jamarcus will be let go by the Raiders since he has become a bust for them.

Tampa: Freeman should not start because he is just not ready for the NFL.  This is kind of like the situation the Lions have.  Stafford is much closer than Freeman IMO so he may start one or two games later this season.

Vikings: I think Brett is completely done and it will be Jackson starting.  He knows he can't throw the ball so he will do as little throwing as possible and let Peterson and Taylor do the work for him.

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we know the battles...but who would you start?

Oakland: JaMarcus Russell or Jeff Garcia?

I think jamarcus russell is the worst qb in the NFL...the raiders actually have a shot to do well with jeff garcia as the starter in my opinion

Minnesota: Sage Rosenfels or Tarvaris Jackson?

i dont think it matters for the vikings...just as long as they run the ball

Detroit: Daunte Culpepper or Matthew Stafford?

start stafford...hes making too much money to no be takin the snaps

San Francisco:Shaun Hill or Alex Smith?

shaun hill is the guy to beat imo...alex smith is a bust

New York: Mark Sanchez or Kellen Clemens?

start mark sanchez...talented kid...and the jets have a good running game...they can do well

Cleveland: Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn?

Brady Quinn should be the starter...anderson didnt do a great job last year i thought and quinn has much more potential

Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman or Luke McCown orByron Leftwich?

this is tough..i actually think josh freeman should start...similar to the jets...the bucs have a good running game

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Oakland: JaMarcus Russell or Jeff Garcia?

Russel will start I think for sure but if h doesn't play well there is good chance Garcia will starting by midseason. If I were to guess I would say Russel will play bad. QB of the future, lol, my azz.

Minnesota: Sage Rosenfels or Tarvaris Jackson?

Niether impress me so yeah I agree as long as Perterson is healthy they might be ok. I say might because honestly I think you are trouble with just these days without any kind of passing attack. I mean what are they going to do if Peterson goes down. Backs by nature do tend to get hurt after all. I somehow suspaect Rosenfels will start because Childress is loon and has some wierd man craush on the guy.

Detroit: Daunte Culpepper or Matthew Stafford?

Stafford. I suspect him to be eventual bust but if you are going pay all that money it just seems stupid to sit him on the bench. Besides you have to see if the dude can play in NFL or not somehow, better late than never. Oh and the Lions have already been on the bottom, it can't get any worse, can it?

San Francisco:Shaun Hill or Alex Smith?

I have no idea about either these guys honestly.

New York: Mark Sanchez or Kellen Clemens?.

Sanchez because again they are paying him a lot and you might as well find out sooner rather than later if he is bust.

Cleveland: Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn?

Quinn. Another boneheaded move by the Browns. Lets draft this kid to be our starter then sit him on the bench for his entire first contract. Time to play him for real.

Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman or Luke McCown orByron Leftwich?

I don't know enough about any of these guys to judge fairly, so I doin't know right now.

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Oakland - Jeff Garcia, if healthy, is still a capable quarterback in this league. Then again, the Raiders aren't going very far so they could just give Russell a chance to do very little.

Minnesota - Jackson...not by much. But at least he has the potential to get better. I think Rosenfels has reached his limit. And that's not promising for the Vikings.

Detroit - Same situation as Oakland. Capable veteran who has seen better days or a highly-invested youngster on a team that isn't going anywhere. I say Culpepper should get the job and let Stafford learn the ropes. If the Lions are completely awful still, then give Stafford the snaps at the end of a hopeless season and let him learn for the future.

San Francisco - Shaun Hill. Smith has never done much in the time that he's been there.

New York - Gotta go with Sanchez. The Jets are capable enough to win some games without a huge contribution from the QB spot so he could get some Ryan-Flacco props.

Cleveland - I think Anderson's time in Cleveland is finished. He had his chance last year to continue his success and couldn't do it. Might as well turn it over to Brady Quinn.

Tampa Bay - I want to say Freeman because I think he can be a poor man's Ryan-Flacco as a rookie, but Leftwich is the smarter choice for the Bucs. He can still play, I think.

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TAMPA: Probably Mccown with freeman behind and Griese at #3
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we know the battles...but who would you start?

Oakland: JaMarcus Russell or Jeff Garcia?

I think jamarcus russell is the worst qb in the NFL...the raiders actually have a shot to do well with jeff garcia as the starter in my opinion 

JaMarcus.  He's Al Davis' guy regardless if the guy behind him is better. 

Minnesota: Sage Rosenfels or Tarvaris Jackson?

i dont think it matters for the vikings...just as long as they run the ball

Pretty much hit the nail on the head here.  Maybe Chester Taylor at QB and run Single Wing every play.  If Favre's arm works it will be him; if not I would put my money on Sage with Booty climbing the later.  If T. Jack starts, its probably the beginning of the end for Childress. 

Detroit: Daunte Culpepper or Matthew Stafford?

start stafford...hes making too much money to no be takin the snaps 

Daunte.  David Carr was a great prospect too.  Very few young QB's can go out there with no O-line, running game, or defense and do anything.  Why sacrifice Stafford to the 'Lions' and ruin a $70m+ investment.  Couldn't the ford family just make a new car and do the same thing? 

San Francisco:Shaun Hill or Alex Smith?

shaun hill is the guy to beat imo...alex smith is a bust

Smith has been a bust for a while.  Who knows, Hill had some sucess at the end of the year.  Could be some other guy on the roster for all I know. 

New York: Mark Sanchez or Kellen Clemens?

start mark sanchez...talented kid...and the jets have a good running game...they can do well

Ryan has stated that he was the only one who thought Flacco should have started right out of camp last year.  This one isn't even a competition.  Sanchez is Ryan's guy. 

Cleveland: Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn?

 Brady Quinn should be the starter...anderson didnt do a great job last year i thought and quinn has much more potential

These guys have to battle it out.  This may even carry over into the season.  The loser is on his way out of CLE next offseason. If he gets to leave CLE is he really the loser? 

Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman or Luke McCown orByron Leftwich?

this is tough..i actually think josh freeman should start...similar to the jets...the bucs have a good running game

Freeman is a little raw.  I would guess it will be McCown with Freeman being slowly worked in.  He may get a start at the end of the year.  I think they will use the Steve McNair approach. 

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oakland: russell will start the season, garcia will take over mid season.

minn: rosenfels will be named the starter until favre shows up.

detroit: don't like it, but you have to start stafford.

san fran: shaun hill, smith will see his 49er & pro career end.

jets: i think they'll start clemens and let sanchez ease into the starting job.

browns: anderson should start, but he won't. quinn gets his shot this season before getting traded next season.

tampa bay: no doubt it will be leftwich

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Oakland: Jeff Garcia

Garcia was fairly productive with the Bucs, and Russell was well, less than spectacular.

Minnesota: Tavaris Jackson

Jackson showed some serious signs of life towards the end of last year, while Sage Roflcopter is a good backup at best, imo.

Detroit: Daunte Culpepper

Unless they want to ruin Stafford's career before it begins....

San Francisco: Shaun Hill

Alex Smith had his chance, and failed.

New York: Mark Sanchez

If the Jets were really super impressed with Clemens like they said, then Sanchez would have probably never been picked.

Cleveland: Derek Anderson

Anderson was a probowler 2 years ago, so imo he gets another shot considering that his top reciever Braylon Edwards also had a horrid season last year. 

Tampa Bay: Byron Leftwich 

Looked decent with the Steeelrs in a reserve roll, but as a Jags fan I think he's horrid. But he is better thanLuke, and Freeman needs to sit and learn.

 

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Oakland: Russel has already had his talent tarnished by being in oakland, Garcia will be the clear favorite

 

Minnesota: Sage, until Favre comes back

 

Detroit: Stafford will start week 1, but he'll suck and Culpepper will come in within a few weeks

 

San Fransisco: Shaun Hill will be the starter all year, Alex Smith will be a career back-up from here on out

 

Jets: Sanchez will start, they don't invest that much into someone and not start him early

 

Browns: I think Anderson gets the nod, and Quinn gets traded at the end of the year

 

Tampa Bay: sadly Leftwich, lesser of all other evils

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I don't know where this "worst QB in the NFL" business came from regarding JaMarcus but it's pretty unfounded. He definetly isn't first round material yet, but he hasn't played horrendous either. I'm still holding out hope, but at least we have Garcia ready to take over otherwise.
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I think I am in the minority  concerning Matt Stafford.  I still doubt that he will start, and if he does it will be towards the end of the year.  The consensus seems to be he's getting paid a lot he should be, but he is not getting paid to play this year, just to learn. Its got to be a long term investment.  

Hopefully Jim Schwartz learned something from watching Vince Young fold in TEN. VY may become the starter again, but he'll be doing what he should have started his career doing, backing up Kerry Collins.

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I don't know where this "worst QB in the NFL" business came from regarding JaMarcus but it's pretty unfounded. He definetly isn't first round material yet, but he hasn't played horrendous either. I'm still holding out hope, but at least we have Garcia ready to take over otherwise.haloraider

 

i never said he was the worst, that goes to his backups and Dan Orlovsky 

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I don't know where this "worst QB in the NFL" business came from regarding JaMarcus but it's pretty unfounded. He definetly isn't first round material yet, but he hasn't played horrendous either. I'm still holding out hope, but at least we have Garcia ready to take over otherwise.haloraider

[QUOTE="haloraider"]I don't know where this "worst QB in the NFL" business came from regarding JaMarcus but it's pretty unfounded. He definetly isn't first round material yet, but he hasn't played horrendous either. I'm still holding out hope, but at least we have Garcia ready to take over otherwise.ARealChiefsFan

 

i never said he was the worst, that goes to his backups and Dan Orlovsky 

i said he was the worst...hahaha you think jeff garcia is the worst?

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I'd much rather have Russell than Garcia.
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[QUOTE="haloraider"]I don't know where this "worst QB in the NFL" business came from regarding JaMarcus but it's pretty unfounded. He definetly isn't first round material yet, but he hasn't played horrendous either. I'm still holding out hope, but at least we have Garcia ready to take over otherwise.chAzN93

[QUOTE="haloraider"]I don't know where this "worst QB in the NFL" business came from regarding JaMarcus but it's pretty unfounded. He definetly isn't first round material yet, but he hasn't played horrendous either. I'm still holding out hope, but at least we have Garcia ready to take over otherwise.ARealChiefsFan

 

i never said he was the worst, that goes to his backups and Dan Orlovsky 

i said he was the worst...hahaha you think jeff garcia is the worst?

no, just pretty close 

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[QUOTE="chAzN93"][QUOTE="haloraider"]I don't know where this "worst QB in the NFL" business came from regarding JaMarcus but it's pretty unfounded. He definetly isn't first round material yet, but he hasn't played horrendous either. I'm still holding out hope, but at least we have Garcia ready to take over otherwise.ARealChiefsFan

[QUOTE="haloraider"]I don't know where this "worst QB in the NFL" business came from regarding JaMarcus but it's pretty unfounded. He definetly isn't first round material yet, but he hasn't played horrendous either. I'm still holding out hope, but at least we have Garcia ready to take over otherwise.ARealChiefsFan

 

i never said he was the worst, that goes to his backups and Dan Orlovsky 

i said he was the worst...hahaha you think jeff garcia is the worst?

no, just pretty close 

thats a huge joke dude...