Week 16 Discussion (2009)

General/minor news and game discussion for Week 16 should be kept in this thread.

Times, Networks and DirecTV | Standings

Friday, December 25th
Chargers (11-3) at Titans (7-7)

Sunday, December 27th
Bills (5-9) at Falcons (7-7)
Broncos (8-6) at Eagles (10-4)
Buccaneers (2-12) at Saints (13-1)
Chiefs (3-11) at Bengals (9-5)
Jaguars (7-7) at Patriots (9-5)
Jets (7-7) at Colts (14-0)
Lions (2-12) at 49ers (6-8 )
Panthers (6-8 ) at Giants (8-6)
Raiders (5-9) at Browns (3-11)
Rams (1-13) at Cardinals (9-5)
Ravens (8-6) at Steelers (7-7)
Seahawks (5-9) at Packers (9-5)
Texans (7-7) at Dolphins (7-7)
Cowboys (9-5) at Redskins (4-10)

Monday, December 28th
Vikings (11-3) at Bears (5-9)

I was going to put Dolphins-Texans because of playoff implications, but then I saw Steelers-Ravens and had to go with the playoff implications plus grudge match.

You know, when I said I didn't want Dallas to return to the days of Shaun Suisham I was always talking figuratively since I figured there was no way it would ever literally happen.  Whoops, I was wrong. 

homefield is secured.geaux321

fixed it for you

A lot of must-win games for all these AFC Wild Card contenders.

I know Cowboys fans aren't going to like this, but I'm still not convinced of them yet. Remember when they beat the Giants in a game few expected them to win? Granted, this was against the non-divisional Saints, but Ellis was also down as well as the top Saints corner.Goliath_unit

Saints were also due a loss, they have probably one of the easist scheduales in all the league (Saints) and they have been playing down to their opponents (26-23 over Rams before DAL).

Rematch of that great overtime game between Giants and Panthers.

Not shocked that the situation is different this year.

Rematch of that great overtime game between Giants and Panthers.

Not shocked that the situation is different this year.

mvphalo8

Yeah the stakes are different this time around, but Carolina does have the opportunity to prevent the Giants from reaching the postseason. (which I doubt they'll do)

Polamalu not expected to play against Ravens. That's not good for the Steelers. It's now pretty much left up to Ben to have another huge game. Personally, I'm not that shocked by Tomlin's on side kick last week, he doesn't have much faith in their defense, can anyone really blame him?

Polamalu not expected to play against Ravens. That's not good for the Steelers. It's now pretty much left up to Ben to have another huge game. Personally, I'm not that shocked by Tomlin's on side kick last week, he doesn't have much faith in their defense, can anyone really blame him?

garey017

Thats sucks, but it makes it a lot easier for me to do a preview on this week. I hadn't decided on that game until now.

I missed the game.  Were the turnovers because of a good San Diego D or a bad VY?

The Dolphins look like they've given up already.

Cashed it in with a 17 point lead. Didn't deserve to win this.

This game will get the media off our bandwagon(as well as many fans), but so much the better. We need to play with chips on our shoulders going into the playoffs following these two lackadasical efforts.

Roy Williams is a waste.Bobbles

I have to agree with you on that one, I am not sure if he is the problem or if just does not know how to fit in with the Cowboys system. He is a talented player that has had a useless and unfulfilling career. I can pardon the years in Detroit that were bad, but he should not be this bad in Dallas though

I say they trade him and try and get whatever they can in exchange for draft picks

Good enough win, Cowboys. A win is a win, and a shutout is a shutout. Hoping to see some promise next week headed into the playoffs, but not really that optimistic.wallymartin

I watch the first half and things look great. I go to play football and they lose in OT. Looks like a 13 game win streak to start the season and a 4 game losing streak to end it. Nice.geaux321

Yeah, the reaction of the Saints president or whoever was priceless when they missed the FG and went into OT. :lol:

Big Ben 4,108 yds passing (8th), 23 TDs (11th), and only 12 ints  (T14th).. now can we say he is elite!?CWEBB04z

I still don't call Romo elite, there is no way in hell BB is. (Actually the only QB I call elite is Peyton, and that only started this year since he maintained performance after a complete coaching staff change.  

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]Big Ben 4,108 yds passing (8th), 23 TDs (11th), and only 12 ints (T14th).. now can we say he is elite!?themyrmidon

I still don't call Romo elite, there is no way in hell BB is. (Actually the only QB I call elite is Peyton, and that only started this year since he maintained performance after a complete coaching staff change.

actually 4,300 yds, 26 TDs, and 12 ints with a 100 QB rating.

Romo- 4,483 YDs; 26 TD; 9 INT; 97.6
Ben- 4,328 YDs; 26 TD; 12 INT; 100.5

My argument still stands 

^ Ben has two SB rings and was the youngest QB to ever win one.

If you want to hate Ben cuz he's a Steeler, fine, but seriously, SB's won > all other stats.

Aikman never had "elite numbers" but he won 3 rings - are you saying he was 'average' too?

You're right about one thing, Romo still isn't elite, or better than Ben, and never will be without a ring.

^ Ben has two SB rings and was the youngest QB to ever win one.

If you want to hate Ben cuz he's a Steeler, fine, but seriously, SB's won > all other stats.

Aikman never had "elite numbers" but he won 3 rings - are you saying he was 'average' too?

You're right about one thing, Romo still isn't elite, or better than Ben, and never will be without a ring.

JackBurton

Would you take Ben over Brees or Rivers right now? Would you take Eli Manning over either of those two either? Both Ben and Eli got rings, so by what you're saying Eli/Ben>Brees/Rivers. Also, Terry Bradshaw=4 rings and Elway/Staubach=2 rings and Marino=0 rings. How'd you rate them?

Romo- 4,483 YDs; 26 TD; 9 INT; 97.6
Ben- 4,328 YDs; 26 TD; 12 INT; 100.5

My argument still stands

themyrmidon

Ben did miss one game..

and I agree with Jacky boy.

[QUOTE="JackBurton"]

^ Ben has two SB rings and was the youngest QB to ever win one.

If you want to hate Ben cuz he's a Steeler, fine, but seriously, SB's won > all other stats.

Aikman never had "elite numbers" but he won 3 rings - are you saying he was 'average' too?

You're right about one thing, Romo still isn't elite, or better than Ben, and never will be without a ring.

Bobbles

Would you take Ben over Brees or Rivers right now? Would you take Eli Manning over either of those two either? Both Ben and Eli got rings, so by what you're saying Eli/Ben>Brees/Rivers. Also, Terry Bradshaw=4 rings and Elway/Staubach=2 rings and Marino=0 rings. How'd you rate them?

I don't think a QB should ever be rated based on SB's won. Its not an individual stat, its a team stat. If a QB has a poor surrounding cast, they aren't likely to win Super Bowls. This is basically saying that the QB is the automatic goat if you lose. And seriously:

Trent Dilfer/Brad Johnson/Mark Rypien > Dan Marino/Dan Fouts/Fran Tarkenton??

^ Ben has two SB rings and was the youngest QB to ever win one.

If you want to hate Ben cuz he's a Steeler, fine, but seriously, SB's won > all other stats.

Aikman never had "elite numbers" but he won 3 rings - are you saying he was 'average' too?

You're right about one thing, Romo still isn't elite, or better than Ben, and never will be without a ring.

JackBurton