Which rookie this year do you think will turn into a bust.

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#1 Shotfire20
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I accutly think Mario Williams will be a stud. He wasn't consistint enough in college to be the 1st overall I thought. and I just think as soon as he plays his first NFL game he will crush underneath pressure and wont be able to deliver.

EDIT: I edited the title for you.
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#2 DRAGON467
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im not rlly sure to be honest
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#3 Wario_and_Fox
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A stud is someone who becomes really good ;) I think the word your looking for is bust As for the question, Reggie Bush. He played behind the best O-line of college football, along with having the best passing offense to take pressure off the run game, not to mention he split carries with Lendale White(Yes I know he can do that with Deuce for now, but not for the entire time in his career
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#4 thetombradyhate
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yeah if you are talking about a bust Reggie has to definatly be considered. I never tought he was that good, I mean in most games he can;t be a soolid back that gets 20-25 carries. I actually think Mario could be a stud but I still would have taken Reggie if I was Houstonn. I think Mario can be a multi pro bowl DE the thing is DE's don't change the game that much
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#5 Shotfire20
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lol ya sorry. bust.
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#6 RaptoR_249
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Ricky.. Williams..... pffffft ... sorry I couldnt resist...
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#7 LEGOslayer
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Vince will once he gets some expirience
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#8 geaux321
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Vince Young, i'm sorry, he just doesn't seem to be a complete player in the NFL.
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#9 Espurs117
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if your talking about this year its gonna be AJ Hawk.
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#10 Espurs117
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ohh i just read bust i thought it said stud lol......then let me change my question too jay cutler.
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#11 naz18h
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I will say Jay Cutler also.

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#12 oscarx21
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My vote is for R Bush, I think he is an injury waiting to happen, I dont know why, just a feeling.
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#13 Wario_and_Fox
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lol, confusing Its bust, not stud. He mixed them up ;)
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#14 wallymartin
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I'm gonna go at this one-by-one:
-Matt Leinart is in a vary good situation, with 2 great receivers, a great RB, and a TE he can grow up alongside.  So Leinart=Not Bust.
-Vince Young, though his passing mechanics aren't very good, has great legs.  When his passing game can't get going, he should still be very mobile, and it's difficult to call Michael Vick a bust.  Young=Not Bust.
-Reggie Bush might have the most raw talent and athleticism of anyone in the draft.  His new coach wil do whatever he can to make a good oline for him.  The people around him won't let him bust and he has a great work ethic.  Bush=Not Bust
-Mario Williams will have a hard time living up to being picked before Bush.  If Reggie Bush becomes a great player, then in the eyes of the public, Williams will have to be one of the best ever not to be considered a bust.  I think he'll go to a few Pro Bowls, but sadly he'll fall right into the critics hands because of how good Bush will be.  Williams=Bust By Circumstance
-LenDale White was a bit overrated.  It shouldn't be Reggie who is doubted because of his great college oline, it should be White.  He has a poor work ethic and isn't walking into a good situation.  White=Probable Bust.
-Jay Cutler is backing up Plummer in Denver.  Cutler may have forgotten how to win though, that's my bigest concern.  But it's possible that by sitting on the bench he'll remember what it's like and learn the position on the way.  He'll still need a little more help, but by the time he's ready to start, Shanahan will have those players in place.  Cutler=Possible Bust

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#15 axel360
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I think LenDale White is definitely going to be a bust because of his poor work ethic and he was extremely overrated because of the talent he had at USC and going to a team that has offensive line problems like Tennessee will show how overrated he is.
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#16 sfgiantsfan8291
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Im gonna go with Young as a bust, i dont think his running QB style will make it in the NFL.
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#17 Wario_and_Fox
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I don't think its hard to call Vick a bust
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#18 thetombradyhate
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I think Cutler is going to own being a total stud. I personally liked him most out of the three top QB's. And he is going to have a few years to learn the system under Plummer so in the near future he's is going to take the helms of a pretty good team and I think he has great potential
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The thing about Cutler is that most people haven't seen him play a lot, due to Vandy being a not-so-good football school.  I'm sure if you have seen him play a lot you wouldn't be saying he is going to be a bust.  He has the mechanics, he's extremely competitive, he never gives up, and he's going to a team that was in the playoffs last year.  You can't say that Shannahan is a bad coach, so you know Cutler will be getting some good coaching out there, i'm sorry, to me it just seems so hard to say that Cutler is going to be a bust with all that he has.
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I haven't seen cutler play alot but to me he fits the mold of a NFL QB better than Leinhart or Young. Cutler reminds me of Favre and since he will have some time to develope I feel that he will emerge as the best QB out of this draft. Meril Hodge (not hat he knows crap) said CUtler would be the ONLY QB he would take in the first round. That is a little crazy but you get the point.
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I haven't seen cutler play alot but to me he fits the mold of a NFL QB better than Leinhart or Young. Cutler reminds me of Favre and since he will have some time to develope I feel that he will emerge as the best QB out of this draft. Meril Hodge (not hat he knows crap) said CUtler would be the ONLY QB he would take in the first round. That is a little crazy but you get the point.thetombradyhate
I see Cutler in the case of Ben Roethlisberger years ago, he is in the best situation to be great, while hi might not play this year like Big Ben, he is heading to become a stud, I think he has the mechanics, arm strength and everything to become a great leader.
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[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"]I haven't seen cutler play alot but to me he fits the mold of a NFL QB better than Leinhart or Young. Cutler reminds me of Favre and since he will have some time to develope I feel that he will emerge as the best QB out of this draft. Meril Hodge (not hat he knows crap) said CUtler would be the ONLY QB he would take in the first round. That is a little crazy but you get the point.oscarx21
I see Cutler in the case of Ben Roethlisberger years ago, he is in the best situation to be great, while hi might not play this year like Big Ben, he is heading to become a stud, I think he has the mechanics, arm strength and everything to become a great leader.

Actually Leinart is in the best situation, his surrounded around young talented pro bowl players.....if he doesnt succeed he will be the biggest bust of all time.

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#23 geaux321
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[QUOTE="oscarx21"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"]I haven't seen cutler play alot but to me he fits the mold of a NFL QB better than Leinhart or Young. Cutler reminds me of Favre and since he will have some time to develope I feel that he will emerge as the best QB out of this draft. Meril Hodge (not hat he knows crap) said CUtler would be the ONLY QB he would take in the first round. That is a little crazy but you get the point.Espurs117

I see Cutler in the case of Ben Roethlisberger years ago, he is in the best situation to be great, while hi might not play this year like Big Ben, he is heading to become a stud, I think he has the mechanics, arm strength and everything to become a great leader.

Actually Leinart is in the best situation, his surrounded around young talented pro bowl players.....if he doesnt succeed he will be the biggest bust of all time.



The Cardinals aren't a playoff team though, Leinart has the best situation on offense maybe, but not overall.
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[QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="oscarx21"][QUOTE="thetombradyhate"]I haven't seen cutler play alot but to me he fits the mold of a NFL QB better than Leinhart or Young. Cutler reminds me of Favre and since he will have some time to develope I feel that he will emerge as the best QB out of this draft. Meril Hodge (not hat he knows crap) said CUtler would be the ONLY QB he would take in the first round. That is a little crazy but you get the point.geaux321

I see Cutler in the case of Ben Roethlisberger years ago, he is in the best situation to be great, while hi might not play this year like Big Ben, he is heading to become a stud, I think he has the mechanics, arm strength and everything to become a great leader.

Actually Leinart is in the best situation, his surrounded around young talented pro bowl players.....if he doesnt succeed he will be the biggest bust of all time.



The Cardinals aren't a playoff team though, Leinart has the best situation on offense maybe, but not overall.

Yeah i know there not as good as the broncos, but they have a better offense so he is in a better situation for himself, because he has more of a chance to succeed as a qb....example look at kyle boller great defense crappy offense = horrible career.

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#25 NBAchampspurs21
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Deonte Witner (sp?). I think he was not the best pick in the top ten, maybe not even 1st round. He's got my vote.
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#26 nationyde5
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This is tough to call, as any player can be a bust, but some players that I wasn't reall sold on are

Reggie Bush, running backs are alwayd tough, becuase you can't tell whether the back is great or the line is great

Vernon Davis, seen him play in person against FSU and he didn't even affect the game, and tight ends usually kill us(Shokey, Winslow, Heath Miller)

Santonnio Holmes, don't understand the hype on this guy, what did he do?

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#27 thetombradyhate
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Deonte Witner (sp?). I think he was not the best pick in the top ten, maybe not even 1st round. He's got my vote.NBAchampspurs21
you definatly spelled it wrong anyway I don't think he will be a bust. I think he will start at safety for many years maybe he will never be an ALL-Pro and the Bills coul;d have gotten him much later but I think he will be at least solid
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You can't judge a player's performace based on one year alone, especially the rookie year.
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#29 XxxMotoXxxX
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i think young won't be so good because breaking tackles and being fast doesn't work as well in nfl since the db in nfl are SO much better
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#30 trewton
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I guarantee reggie bush will get injured this year and he will be a big bust for the aints.

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#31 geaux321
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I guarantee reggie bush will get injured this year and he will be a big bust for the aints.

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They aren't the goddamn Aints anymore, from here on out, i'm modding people who use Aints.  And why are you so sure he's gonna get hurt?
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#32 wallymartin
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[QUOTE="trewton"]

I guarantee reggie bush will get injured this year and he will be a big bust for the aints.

geaux321



They aren't the goddamn Aints anymore, from here on out, i'm modding people who use Aints.  And why are you so sure he's gonna get hurt?

Feel free to do just that.  It really is annoying, and its so old.  I mean come on people, come up with interesting ways to insult a team.

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#33 tyst13
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[QUOTE="trewton"]

I guarantee reggie bush will get injured this year and he will be a big bust for the aints.

geaux321



They aren't the goddamn Aints anymore, from here on out, i'm modding people who use Aints.  And why are you so sure he's gonna get hurt?

I don't get why you think Bush will get hurt.  He will come in handy for the saints by week 3 when Macalister (sorry about the spelling) gets hurt (he always gets hurt it seems)

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#34 geaux321
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[QUOTE="geaux321"] [QUOTE="trewton"]

I guarantee reggie bush will get injured this year and he will be a big bust for the aints.

tyst13



They aren't the goddamn Aints anymore, from here on out, i'm modding people who use Aints. And why are you so sure he's gonna get hurt?

I don't get why you think Bush will get hurt. He will come in handy for the saints by week 3 when Macalister (sorry about the spelling) gets hurt (he always gets hurt it seems)



Sure he's been hurt a couple of times, but last year was really the only time he's missed significant time.  Plus with Bush there he will take some of the load off of him so he won't be out there all the time.
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#35 axel360
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[QUOTE="tyst13"][QUOTE="geaux321"] [QUOTE="trewton"]

I guarantee reggie bush will get injured this year and he will be a big bust for the aints.

geaux321



They aren't the goddamn Aints anymore, from here on out, i'm modding people who use Aints. And why are you so sure he's gonna get hurt?

I don't get why you think Bush will get hurt. He will come in handy for the saints by week 3 when Macalister (sorry about the spelling) gets hurt (he always gets hurt it seems)



Sure he's been hurt a couple of times, but last year was really the only time he's missed significant time.  Plus with Bush there he will take some of the load off of him so he won't be out there all the time.

I thought people would realize by now not to bad mouth the Saints near geaux... :roll:

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Lendale White, he is lazy and has all kinds of excuses.  Then the titans can have the two (maybe three, with Vince Young) biggest busts in the past two years.  Pacman Jones, Lendale White, Vince Young
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#37 DRAGON467
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omg im so confused!
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#38 wallymartin
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Lendale White, he is lazy and has all kinds of excuses.  Then the titans can have the two (maybe three, with Vince Young) biggest busts in the past two years.  Pacman Jones, Lendale White, Vince Youngtimbfox

Pacman has only been in the league for 1 year, you can't call him a bust yet.  I'm not a fan of his, but he deserves another couple seasons before we start labeling him as a bust.

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[QUOTE="timbfox"]Lendale White, he is lazy and has all kinds of excuses.  Then the titans can have the two (maybe three, with Vince Young) biggest busts in the past two years.  Pacman Jones, Lendale White, Vince Youngwallymartin

Pacman has only been in the league for 1 year, you can't call him a bust yet.  I'm not a fan of his, but he deserves another couple seasons before we start labeling him as a bust.

good point, but you would of figured he would have done better for holding out for so long last year.

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#40 axel360
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[QUOTE="timbfox"]Lendale White, he is lazy and has all kinds of excuses.  Then the titans can have the two (maybe three, with Vince Young) biggest busts in the past two years.  Pacman Jones, Lendale White, Vince Youngwallymartin

Pacman has only been in the league for 1 year, you can't call him a bust yet.  I'm not a fan of his, but he deserves another couple seasons before we start labeling him as a bust.

You sorta knew he was gonna be a bust at the beginning after holding out of training camp because contract disputes. Things like that just set you back.