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#1 El_Eric
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me and my firends have an argument about who is the best WR in the game so we r gonna let u decide...
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#2 bgres077
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Tough choice, but I went with Chad Johnson.  He has speed, size, and raw talent.  All of these guys on the list have all that, but I see Chad at the top of the pack.
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i say steve smith because he has the best hands and is the fastest.  ALso he led the league in recieving yards last year while being double/thriple teamed by defenders now thats good. 
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#4 bobwjr
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Steve Smith was last year but this is a new year. What makes a wide receiver really good vs mediocre is the QB and system he plays under.
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#5 sfgiantsfan8291
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I went with chad johnson as well. I agree with everything bgres said, plus he is hilarious, and my favorite player. He can take on any corner in the league and be succesful against them. We all remember his list:D
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I said Randy Moss becouse he has never realy been inconsistent and is tall, fast, good at catching, great vistion, and can split any defence, he is the best all around player
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#7 thetombradyhate
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I say TO is the best WR, talent wise, but if I could pick one to have on my team for more than a year I would pick Chad Johnson
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#8 Espurs117
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Terrell Owens is the best hands down, he has speed, size...and his not afraid to go in the middle.
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Is this who is the best wide receiver when they were at their best?
Or is this best wide receiver right now?

If it's best wide receiver at their best than no question it's Randy Moss.

Best receiver right now of that list is Chad Johnson.

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Torry Holt
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#11 MrVaderX
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i voted for T.O. but why no love for Marvin Harrisson. all marvin does is catch footballs and touchdowns.

but Marvin is still no match for T.O. but he is a better teammate, i guess

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T.O, honestly there is no gettn around it. The others are marvelous WRs, but TO has amazing speed, hands, and he is built like a freak. All of those players are sub 200 Lbs, TO is 225, and he moves just as quickyl as the others.
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A WR Id want in my team is Marvin, a team player that has speed, great hands and even though he is not that big, he can make things happen. No love for Holt?
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In personality id have to say heines ward but i hate owens and johnson so idk who is the best to hard to decide
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I'm thinking Moss, Smith, or Owens.  Randy Moss is tall and fast, and even though he was injured part of the season and had Collins at QB, still had a decent year.  Steve Smith has great hands and is incredibly fast, and even though he faced double and triple coverages all of last season, still led the league in receiving.  But my pick is Terrell Owens.  He's got size, he's got speed, and he's got the hands.  What I think sets him apart is his strength.  When Owens is in traffic, he can use it to create space for himself or break tackles on the run.  Couple that with his speed and this guy is just as comfortable catching a 2 yard pass as he is a 30 yard pass. 

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It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.
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I'm thinking Moss, Smith, or Owens.  Randy Moss is tall and fast, and even though he was injured part of the season and had Collins at QB, still had a decent year.  Steve Smith has great hands and is incredibly fast, and even though he faced double and triple coverages all of last season, still led the league in receiving.  But my pick is Terrell Owens.  He's got size, he's got speed, and he's got the hands.  What I think sets him apart is his strength.  When Owens is in traffic, he can use it to create space for himself or break tackles on the run.  Couple that with his speed and this guy is just as comfortable catching a 2 yard pass as he is a 30 yard pass. 

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ay to be decisive
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wat do u think of hines ward?
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It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.nationyde5
Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.
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[QUOTE="wallymartin"]

I'm thinking Moss, Smith, or Owens.  Randy Moss is tall and fast, and even though he was injured part of the season and had Collins at QB, still had a decent year.  Steve Smith has great hands and is incredibly fast, and even though he faced double and triple coverages all of last season, still led the league in receiving.  But my pick is Terrell Owens.  He's got size, he's got speed, and he's got the hands.  What I think sets him apart is his strength.  When Owens is in traffic, he can use it to create space for himself or break tackles on the run.  Couple that with his speed and this guy is just as comfortable catching a 2 yard pass as he is a 30 yard pass. 

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ay to be decisive

I picked Owens.

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[QUOTE="nationyde5"]It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.bgres077
Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.

The fundamentals are still the fundamentals.

Randy Moss makes most NFL cornerbacks look real bad.

It's damn near impossible to cover a guy who can literally jump twice his height and catch almost anything within his massive reach.

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wat do u think of hines ward?Skaterfool99

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.  

Thats just my opinion.

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[QUOTE="bgres077"][QUOTE="nationyde5"]It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.Herrdoktor

Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.

The fundamentals are still the fundamentals.

Randy Moss makes most NFL cornerbacks look real bad.

It's damn near impossible to cover a guy who can literally jump twice his height and catch almost anything within his massive reach.



So you're telling me Moss has a vertical of near 152 inches?
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[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="bgres077"][QUOTE="nationyde5"]It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.bgres077

Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.

The fundamentals are still the fundamentals.

Randy Moss makes most NFL cornerbacks look real bad.

It's damn near impossible to cover a guy who can literally jump twice his height and catch almost anything within his massive reach.



So you're telling me Moss has a vertical of near 152 inches?

That was bad wording on my part.
Moss is able to jump his height. 

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[QUOTE="bgres077"] [QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="bgres077"][QUOTE="nationyde5"]It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.Herrdoktor

Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.

The fundamentals are still the fundamentals.

Randy Moss makes most NFL cornerbacks look real bad.

It's damn near impossible to cover a guy who can literally jump twice his height and catch almost anything within his massive reach.



So you're telling me Moss has a vertical of near 152 inches?

That was bad wording on my part.
Moss is able to jump his height.

So you're still telling me this guy has a vert of 76". That is still unbelievable.
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Steve Smith cuz he is the fastest and more agile of them all
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[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Espurs117

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.  

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no
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[QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Skaterfool99

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.  

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no

randy moss is gay.....T.O. is annoying.......and Santana Moss is a nobody
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[QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Skaterfool99

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.  

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no

This is not about personality issues.....take a poll, se how many ppl pick fitzgerald,boldin, and holt over ward.....i bet you ward gest the least votes.

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[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?HUNTO1

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.  

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no

randy moss is gay.....T.O. is annoying.......and Santana Moss is a nobody

:|

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[QUOTE="HUNTO1"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Espurs117

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.  

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no

randy moss is gay.....T.O. is annoying.......and Santana Moss is a nobody

:|

Well said, Espurs, well said.

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[QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Skaterfool99

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.  

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no

You never heard of Anquan Boldin?!?!!?
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#34 bgres077
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[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?nationyde5

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no

You never heard of Anquan Boldin?!?!!?

Must not follow football too closely.
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[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="HUNTO1"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?wallymartin

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.  

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no

randy moss is gay.....T.O. is annoying.......and Santana Moss is a nobody

:|

Well said, Espurs, well said.

you use compelling words
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#36 mgreener_34
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Here is my top 10 Randy Moss Terrel Owens Marvin Harrison Chad Johnson Torry Holt Andrea Johnson (he is so underated) Steve Smith Larry Fitzgerald Santana Moss Isaik Bruce
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If I cannot be reached for comment or a vote, I hereby give Espurs117 my comment/vote to hold in proxy as the guy has his head on straight and I agree with almost everything he writes.

I am wondering where Freddie Mitchell is on this poll as God apparently hand crafted and blessed his hands.  Doesn't anyone remember that one good game he had two years ago?  This disrespect is an outrage!

Arizona is lucky to have two stud receivers and anyone who can't name who they are really shouldn't be arguing about who the best receiver in the league is (Skaterfool99 - I'm looking at you).

I put Randy Moss as my top WR when he is healthy but it's kind of a situation of 1a and 1b with him and Owens and I still am fond of his skills from his Viking days.  Chad Johnson makes me laugh and I'd probably put him third although Steve Smith deserves to be there as well.

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#38 mgreener_34
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are you seriuse about that?!?! :( man im stupid
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#39 aqua_tv
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If you are referring to my comment about Freddie Mitchel then no, I am not at all serious.
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LOL GOOD!!!!!!
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The best receiver in the game is Terrel Owens.  Only other one you could even argue is Chad Johnson.  Steve Smith is the most dangerous in the open field, Marvin Harrison has Peyton Manning, had a great RB, Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokley, so he rarely sees a double team.  Randy Moss can't run routes or do anything other than go deep and make sick catches, that's why he was horrible in Oakland.  All negative publicity aside, you put T.O. on your team, and they instantly get much better.  The Eagles were dominate before T.O. got injured and gave the team the confidence to get over the hump and into the Super Bowl.  He's also a great route runner, excellent run blocker, a deep threat, and can get many YAC.  Chad Johnson is just a flat out great receiver, runs good routes, has great hands and can catch across the middle or on the fly.  Steve Smith is most dangerous on screen passes, and his height takes away from his effectiveness on deep routes.  He's a tremendous player, don't get me wrong, but he's not well balanced.  If he was 6'1" he would easily be the best receiver, because now he would be 100x more effective on deep routes, and probably unstoppable on deep routes.  If he had Moss's height, he'd be even more dangerous.  Don't take me out of context, he can catch a deep ball, but his height does hamper him.  He needs to get completely open, position himself for success and hope for a next to perfect pass; as Randy Moss can catch less than perfect deep balls thrown because of his vert and his height.  I'm surprised Hines Ward isn't on this list.  He's another receiver who does everything well.  Too bad he's just not as fast as the other guys in this poll.
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[QUOTE="nationyde5"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"]

[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?bgres077

His good, but his not top 5.

My list.

1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.

Thats just my opinion.

Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no

You never heard of Anquan Boldin?!?!!?

Must not follow football too closely.

ahh ya i do.....but just put it at this owen sucks randy moss= drugy, hines ward = great reciever awesome guy great personality not all about money......chad johnson really cocky not as good as he thinks he is....
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#44 mgreener_34
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Hines Ward is good/great but compared to some of these guys he is realy just a good player. And dont judge a players talent on what he does off the faild. LOL has nothing to do with what he does on the faild. Look at Ricky Williams. Drugy, but at one time was the best RB in the NFL.
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Anquain Bolden is amazing.
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#46 muffdiver1982
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Hines Ward is extremely under-rated.  He's not as flashy as the rest, but he has great fundamentals.  He has no weaknesses in his game.  I agree that personality, and what a guy does off the field should have no bearing on what they can do on the field.  Hines Ward isn't the best in any particular area of playing WR, but he does everything extremely well.  One of the greatest blocking WR, has tremendous balance and breaks many tackles which lead to a great YAC, has great hands, and is versatile.  He was QB in college, so he can even be utilized in trick plays.  He's a football player more than a wide receiver, but he's definately getting the shaft in this discussion.  You put Hines Ward on any team, they instantly get better, regardless of the system.  In fact, I bet if he was playing in a west coast system, he would be in this debate right now.  Instead he plays for the Steelers, who like to run the ball 60% of the time.
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Hines Ward is extremely under-rated.  He's not as flashy as the rest, but he has great fundamentals.  He has no weaknesses in his game.  I agree that personality, and what a guy does off the field should have no bearing on what they can do on the field.  Hines Ward isn't the best in any particular area of playing WR, but he does everything extremely well.  One of the greatest blocking WR, has tremendous balance and breaks many tackles which lead to a great YAC, has great hands, and is versatile.  He was QB in college, so he can even be utilized in trick plays.  He's a football player more than a wide receiver, but he's definately getting the shaft in this discussion.  You put Hines Ward on any team, they instantly get better, regardless of the system.  In fact, I bet if he was playing in a west coast system, he would be in this debate right now.  Instead he plays for the Steelers, who like to run the ball 60% of the time.muffdiver1982
I had the same argument about Paul Pierce and do you know what they said. Hes not the best. Sure they are great and have all the skills but they still arnt the best. Same can be used here. Hines Ward is no dought one of the best in the east but when you start nameing what some of the other guys can do like Santana Moss, Coles, Moss, T.O, and Chad Johnson he realy does start to fall off
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#48 bgres077
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[QUOTE="Superbustacap"]Anquain Bolden is amazing.

He is very good but I think he will be living in the shadows of Larry Fitzgerald. He'll also be utilized less because his specialty is short-yardage catches and they won't need those as much because of the addition of Edgerrin James.
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#49 mgreener_34
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I think that the Cardinals offence is so good it realy doesnt matter. James and Fitzgerald will get 2 teamed leaveing open field to work with. Also he is still young so he can improve that. I see a Isac Bruce and Torry Holt with Marshel Foulk starting up in Arizona. Im exspecting big things
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#50 muffdiver1982
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[QUOTE="muffdiver1982"]Hines Ward is extremely under-rated.  He's not as flashy as the rest, but he has great fundamentals.  He has no weaknesses in his game.  I agree that personality, and what a guy does off the field should have no bearing on what they can do on the field.  Hines Ward isn't the best in any particular area of playing WR, but he does everything extremely well.  One of the greatest blocking WR, has tremendous balance and breaks many tackles which lead to a great YAC, has great hands, and is versatile.  He was QB in college, so he can even be utilized in trick plays.  He's a football player more than a wide receiver, but he's definately getting the shaft in this discussion.  You put Hines Ward on any team, they instantly get better, regardless of the system.  In fact, I bet if he was playing in a west coast system, he would be in this debate right now.  Instead he plays for the Steelers, who like to run the ball 60% of the time.mgreener_34
I had the same argument about Paul Pierce and do you know what they said. Hes not the best. Sure they are great and have all the skills but they still arnt the best. Same can be used here. Hines Ward is no dought one of the best in the east but when you start nameing what some of the other guys can do like Santana Moss, Coles, Moss, T.O, and Chad Johnson he realy does start to fall off

First off, Paul Pierce is in an organization that's drowning in the deep end.  For all his skills, his team hasn't won consistently.  So that arguement is irrelevant.  All of you guys' problems all stem from the samething:  You're all looking at minor details rather than the big picture.  Hines Ward has all the tools, he's a WINNER, and he's a leader.  If you are the best, you instantly make any team you play for better.  If it wasn't for Ward, Roethlisberger would never had won all those games as a rookie, and they probably wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl or Playoffs this year.  Leadership is an on the field quality that goes with being a great player.  Moss doesn't have it, and Moss also didn't have an impact at all with the Raiders last year.  They were supposed to be in the playoffs, instead they are drafting @7.  Moss is the biggest deep threat in the game, or most dominate, but not the best.  Shaq is also the most dominate player in his sport, but he's not the best.  What ultimately separates the good for the best?  Winning!  Ward has a Super Bowl ring, and the only other one on anybodies list that has a Super Bowl ring, is Torry Holt.  Both are under-rated because they aren't prima donnas and they do everything else exceptionally well while be the best at none.  Riddle me this!  Jordan is the greatest player of all-time in the NBA, but he isn't the greatest shot blocker, shooter scorer or defender.  It's because he did everything extraordinarily well and he was a winner.  The only person you could compare to him is Bill Russell, cause the man had 11 rings.  You can't argue with a guy who has a championship toe ring!  I would even argue for Magic Johnson, being he was phenomenal at every position on the court, even Center!  Hines Ward deserves to be in this debate. 

Paul Pierce is a great player, but he isn't a winner.  Kobe is more of a winner than Pierce.  He proved it last year with only Lamar Odom as the only other quality player on the Lakers squad and making the playoffs.  I'm not a Kobe fan by the way either.