Is this who is the best wide receiver when they were at their best?
Or is this best wide receiver right now?
If it's best wide receiver at their best than no question it's Randy Moss.
Best receiver right now of that list is Chad Johnson.
I'm thinking Moss, Smith, or Owens. Randy Moss is tall and fast, and even though he was injured part of the season and had Collins at QB, still had a decent year. Steve Smith has great hands and is incredibly fast, and even though he faced double and triple coverages all of last season, still led the league in receiving. But my pick is Terrell Owens. He's got size, he's got speed, and he's got the hands. What I think sets him apart is his strength. When Owens is in traffic, he can use it to create space for himself or break tackles on the run. Couple that with his speed and this guy is just as comfortable catching a 2 yard pass as he is a 30 yard pass.Â
ay to be decisiveI'm thinking Moss, Smith, or Owens. Randy Moss is tall and fast, and even though he was injured part of the season and had Collins at QB, still had a decent year. Steve Smith has great hands and is incredibly fast, and even though he faced double and triple coverages all of last season, still led the league in receiving. But my pick is Terrell Owens. He's got size, he's got speed, and he's got the hands. What I think sets him apart is his strength. When Owens is in traffic, he can use it to create space for himself or break tackles on the run. Couple that with his speed and this guy is just as comfortable catching a 2 yard pass as he is a 30 yard pass.Â
wallymartin
It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.nationyde5Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.
[QUOTE="wallymartin"]ay to be decisiveI'm thinking Moss, Smith, or Owens. Randy Moss is tall and fast, and even though he was injured part of the season and had Collins at QB, still had a decent year. Steve Smith has great hands and is incredibly fast, and even though he faced double and triple coverages all of last season, still led the league in receiving. But my pick is Terrell Owens. He's got size, he's got speed, and he's got the hands. What I think sets him apart is his strength. When Owens is in traffic, he can use it to create space for himself or break tackles on the run. Couple that with his speed and this guy is just as comfortable catching a 2 yard pass as he is a 30 yard pass.Â
thetombradyhate
I picked Owens.
[QUOTE="nationyde5"]It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.bgres077Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.
The fundamentals are still the fundamentals.
Randy Moss makes most NFL cornerbacks look real bad.
It's damn near impossible to cover a guy who can literally jump twice his height and catch almost anything within his massive reach.
wat do u think of hines ward?Skaterfool99
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss. Â
Thats just my opinion.
Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.[QUOTE="bgres077"][QUOTE="nationyde5"]It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.Herrdoktor
The fundamentals are still the fundamentals.
Randy Moss makes most NFL cornerbacks look real bad.
It's damn near impossible to cover a guy who can literally jump twice his height and catch almost anything within his massive reach.
[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.[QUOTE="bgres077"][QUOTE="nationyde5"]It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.bgres077
The fundamentals are still the fundamentals.
Randy Moss makes most NFL cornerbacks look real bad.
It's damn near impossible to cover a guy who can literally jump twice his height and catch almost anything within his massive reach.
That was bad wording on my part.
Moss is able to jump his height.Â
[QUOTE="bgres077"] [QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]Yes sir. I'll take your high school cornerback knowledge and compare it to backs in the NFL.[QUOTE="bgres077"][QUOTE="nationyde5"]It's Randy Moss without question, he's the fastest guy in the league, he big, tall and can jump through the roof. He's the only guy that all the DB's fear. But the thing that seoarates him if something you may not notice unlees you played coner like I did, and that is this, when he goes deep and the ball is thrown to him, he can wait until the very last moment to put his hands out and still make the catch. that means that corners don't know exactly when the ball is near him until it's too late. The one thing he lacks is crisp route running, but he doesen't need it cuase he's open a soon as he steps on the field.Herrdoktor
The fundamentals are still the fundamentals.
Randy Moss makes most NFL cornerbacks look real bad.
It's damn near impossible to cover a guy who can literally jump twice his height and catch almost anything within his massive reach.
That was bad wording on my part.
Moss is able to jump his height.
[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Espurs117
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss. Â
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Skaterfool99
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss. Â
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no randy moss is gay.....T.O. is annoying.......and Santana Moss is a nobody[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Skaterfool99
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss. Â
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just noThis is not about personality issues.....take a poll, se how many ppl pick fitzgerald,boldin, and holt over ward.....i bet you ward gest the least votes.
[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?HUNTO1
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss. Â
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no randy moss is gay.....T.O. is annoying.......and Santana Moss is a nobody:|
[QUOTE="HUNTO1"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Espurs117
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss. Â
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no randy moss is gay.....T.O. is annoying.......and Santana Moss is a nobody:|
Well said, Espurs, well said.
[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?Skaterfool99
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss. Â
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no You never heard of Anquan Boldin?!?!!?[QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?nationyde5
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no You never heard of Anquan Boldin?!?!!? Must not follow football too closely.[QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="HUNTO1"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?wallymartin
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss. Â
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no randy moss is gay.....T.O. is annoying.......and Santana Moss is a nobody:|
Well said, Espurs, well said.
you use compelling words[QUOTE="nationyde5"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"][QUOTE="Espurs117"][QUOTE="Skaterfool99"]wat do u think of hines ward?bgres077
His good, but his not top 5.
My list.
1.Terrell Owens.
2.Randy Moss.
3.Steve Smith.
4.Chad Johnson.
5.Marvin Harrison.
6.Torry Holt.
7.Larry Fitzgerald.
8.Anquan Boldin.
9.Hines Ward.
10.Santana Moss.
Thats just my opinion.
Omg are u serious?! fitzgerald over ward? anquan boldin ive never even heard of him, owens sucks b/c his personality is terrible moss is way overatted and tory holt no just no You never heard of Anquan Boldin?!?!!? Must not follow football too closely. ahh ya i do.....but just put it at this owen sucks randy moss= drugy, hines ward = great reciever awesome guy great personality not all about money......chad johnson really cocky not as good as he thinks he is....Hines Ward is extremely under-rated. He's not as flashy as the rest, but he has great fundamentals. He has no weaknesses in his game. I agree that personality, and what a guy does off the field should have no bearing on what they can do on the field. Hines Ward isn't the best in any particular area of playing WR, but he does everything extremely well. One of the greatest blocking WR, has tremendous balance and breaks many tackles which lead to a great YAC, has great hands, and is versatile. He was QB in college, so he can even be utilized in trick plays. He's a football player more than a wide receiver, but he's definately getting the shaft in this discussion. You put Hines Ward on any team, they instantly get better, regardless of the system. In fact, I bet if he was playing in a west coast system, he would be in this debate right now. Instead he plays for the Steelers, who like to run the ball 60% of the time.muffdiver1982I had the same argument about Paul Pierce and do you know what they said. Hes not the best. Sure they are great and have all the skills but they still arnt the best. Same can be used here. Hines Ward is no dought one of the best in the east but when you start nameing what some of the other guys can do like Santana Moss, Coles, Moss, T.O, and Chad Johnson he realy does start to fall off
[QUOTE="muffdiver1982"]Hines Ward is extremely under-rated. He's not as flashy as the rest, but he has great fundamentals. He has no weaknesses in his game. I agree that personality, and what a guy does off the field should have no bearing on what they can do on the field. Hines Ward isn't the best in any particular area of playing WR, but he does everything extremely well. One of the greatest blocking WR, has tremendous balance and breaks many tackles which lead to a great YAC, has great hands, and is versatile. He was QB in college, so he can even be utilized in trick plays. He's a football player more than a wide receiver, but he's definately getting the shaft in this discussion. You put Hines Ward on any team, they instantly get better, regardless of the system. In fact, I bet if he was playing in a west coast system, he would be in this debate right now. Instead he plays for the Steelers, who like to run the ball 60% of the time.mgreener_34I had the same argument about Paul Pierce and do you know what they said. Hes not the best. Sure they are great and have all the skills but they still arnt the best. Same can be used here. Hines Ward is no dought one of the best in the east but when you start nameing what some of the other guys can do like Santana Moss, Coles, Moss, T.O, and Chad Johnson he realy does start to fall off
First off, Paul Pierce is in an organization that's drowning in the deep end. For all his skills, his team hasn't won consistently. So that arguement is irrelevant. All of you guys' problems all stem from the samething: You're all looking at minor details rather than the big picture. Hines Ward has all the tools, he's a WINNER, and he's a leader. If you are the best, you instantly make any team you play for better. If it wasn't for Ward, Roethlisberger would never had won all those games as a rookie, and they probably wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl or Playoffs this year. Leadership is an on the field quality that goes with being a great player. Moss doesn't have it, and Moss also didn't have an impact at all with the Raiders last year. They were supposed to be in the playoffs, instead they are drafting @7. Moss is the biggest deep threat in the game, or most dominate, but not the best. Shaq is also the most dominate player in his sport, but he's not the best. What ultimately separates the good for the best? Winning! Ward has a Super Bowl ring, and the only other one on anybodies list that has a Super Bowl ring, is Torry Holt. Both are under-rated because they aren't prima donnas and they do everything else exceptionally well while be the best at none. Riddle me this! Jordan is the greatest player of all-time in the NBA, but he isn't the greatest shot blocker, shooter scorer or defender. It's because he did everything extraordinarily well and he was a winner. The only person you could compare to him is Bill Russell, cause the man had 11 rings. You can't argue with a guy who has a championship toe ring! I would even argue for Magic Johnson, being he was phenomenal at every position on the court, even Center! Hines Ward deserves to be in this debate.Â
Paul Pierce is a great player, but he isn't a winner. Kobe is more of a winner than Pierce. He proved it last year with only Lamar Odom as the only other quality player on the Lakers squad and making the playoffs. I'm not a Kobe fan by the way either.
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