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#1 so_hai
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"On the list of canned 3DS games, there's My Garden, which was supposed to be a 3DS launch title. There's also Saints Row: Drive-By, also apparently canned.

Four Hudson games for the 3DS were canned, including Omega Five, Kororinpa: Marble Mania, Bonk, and Bomberman.

BloodRayne: The Shroud wasn't canned outright, but it's development is currently on hold. Also, DJ Hero 3 hasn't been officially cancelled, but it seems like this game is going to fall by the wayside. Blame the flagging popularity of music games for that!

Assassin's Creed: Lost Legacy was officially canned, and as of yesterday, Mega Man Legends 3 bit the dust.

To add insult to injury, it was revealed this week that 3DS game Crush 3D was delayed due to uncertainly over whether or not the 3DS is going to succeed."

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It's too early to make any conclusions, but that list of cancelled games is pretty impressive.

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#2 buft
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Its certainly not looking good for third party support, once the big first party titles come out there should be a surge in sales of the hardware and some of these developers will put their fears on the back burner and start releasing games. not too disappointed by anything on that list but im sure we'll see some bigger casualties before things start to get better.
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#3 SuperFlakeman
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"Bad" initial hardware sales, upcoming Vita means publishers rather make multiplats, 3D (not stereo effect) games = higher development costs.

It makes sense that they're holding off software for the future. This just means that Nintendo is on its own when it comes to selling their new systems.

They really need to expand to double their software output, 3rd parties can't be trusted.

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#4 fer-
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Only one of those I would have considered would have been the Assassin's Creed game, and even then only if it looked top notch. But then I never have professed to understand the production of shovel-ready games where I don't see how on earth they recoup development cost to break even much less make any money on.
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#5 AvatarMan96
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None of those are games I'd even want, but that's pretty bad how developers can't live up to promises

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considering the DS AC games, meh. MML3 was really sad, but it wasn't even a game, it was just a project. everyone following it knew it had a high chance of being canceled. and it was canceled mostly because of the popularity of megaman legends games, rather than "oh it's for the 3DS". activision is holding everything musical back after the backlash from GH6, it's no surprise. hudson has been nearly dead for a while now, my garden didn't even look interesting, and so on. so whatever you're implying, don't.
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#7 ArchoNils2
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As long as the 3DS sells "poor" 3rd party has no interesst in the platform. I hope sales increase and 3rd party get their interest back

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the only game that anyone will miss is megaman
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#9 haziqonfire
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While the amount of cancelled titles is certainly discouraging, a lot of those won't be missed. The only major game that will be missed is Mega Man Legends 3. Though, if developers are wary about the install base of the 3DS, cancelling and canning games doesn't help the situation. The more games the platform has the more units it'll sell, the higher amount of people they can eventually reach.
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Though, if developers are wary about the install base of the 3DS, cancelling and canning games doesn't help the situation. The more games the platform has the more units it'll sell, the higher amount of people they can eventually reach. Haziqonfire

Exactly, this is especially true for franchises too not just systems, if done right.

I'm just not gonna go out and buy the two RE spinoffs on Wii just because I might have an interest in the franchise, that goes for Mercs aswell. Give me mainline entries and I'll be there day one.

If Rayman is any indication then I've lost hope. NSMBW had to sell over 20 million for Ubisoft to justify making a proper platformer.

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The only title I'm really sorry about is MML 3. The other titles would of more then likely been average at best. Assassin's creed might of been great, but with ubisoft it always seems like a toss up with them on nintendo systems. Shadow wars was pretty good though.

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#12 OreoMilkshake
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3DS cancelled software looked mostly like trash.
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#13 El_Zo1212o
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Are you people blind? Assassin's Creed, Saint's Row, Bomberman,(and not mentioned with Crush3d) the Shinobi delay- with the kind of hardware 3ds is packing, there's no reason NOT to mourn the demise of these games. The era of handhelds being the lesser form of videogame entertainment has passed; handheld games are now equal to the task of providing console staples such as full voice acting and open worlds. And a Nintendo handheld has yet to fail. Such a trend will not begin with the 3DS.
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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]Are you people blind? Assassin's Creed, Saint's Row, Bomberman,(and not mentioned with Crush3d) the Shinobi delay- with the kind of hardware 3ds is packing, there's no reason NOT to mourn the demise of these games. The era of handhelds being the lesser form of videogame entertainment has passed; handheld games are now equal to the task of providing console staples such as full voice acting and open worlds. And a Nintendo handheld has yet to fail. Such a trend will not begin with the 3DS.

not really. handhelds are supposed to bring a portable experience. something like AC is better suited to a big screen, when you have hours to spend on a single game.
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Are you people blind? Assassin's Creed, Saint's Row, Bomberman,(and not mentioned with Crush3d) the Shinobi delay- with the kind of hardware 3ds is packing, there's no reason NOT to mourn the demise of these games. The era of handhelds being the lesser form of videogame entertainment has passed; handheld games are now equal to the task of providing console staples such as full voice acting and open worlds. And a Nintendo handheld has yet to fail. Such a trend will not begin with the 3DS.El_Zo1212o

In some cases those full fledged games work well on handhelds, in others not. Developers should work to bring unique experiences to platforms instead of providing "me too" experiences on a handheld. It's okay once in a while, but when developers become lazy and just bring me too version without making them feel unique on the platform, it becomes an issue.

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easy solution, buy more 3ds!!!! :p

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]Are you people blind? Assassin's Creed, Saint's Row, Bomberman,(and not mentioned with Crush3d) the Shinobi delay- with the kind of hardware 3ds is packing, there's no reason NOT to mourn the demise of these games. The era of handhelds being the lesser form of videogame entertainment has passed; handheld games are now equal to the task of providing console staples such as full voice acting and open worlds. And a Nintendo handheld has yet to fail. Such a trend will not begin with the 3DS.Haziqonfire

In some cases those full fledged games work well on handhelds, in others not. Developers should work to bring unique experiences to platforms instead of providing "me too" experiences on a handheld. It's okay once in a while, but when developers become lazy and just bring me too version without making them feel unique on the platform, it becomes an issue.

at the same time, I would argue that the time of underestimating the handheld is past. I'm not saying a game like Assassin's Creed should have a direct port- that might still be out of reach- but this idea that any console game with a handheld iteration can only be a cheap, 'me too' cash-in is false, but will be taken as true as long as people keep believing it and refusing to make the attempt.
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Games get cancelled all the time, you just don't hear about them all the time. Only if these were Nintendo games, would it be a reason for a cause for concern. Or if this happened the middle of the 3DS lifespan, this early in its lifespan, not much is set in stone, a lot of these things were probably just concepts, like Aliens Colonial Marines for the Wii U. No guarantee of them actually coming out early or at all. I would be more concerned if it was something like Snake Eater, Kingdom Hearts or Revelations that got canned as these were games clearly in development. These other ones, probably never even got started. Though Legends 3 sucks and my thinking is it has absolutely nothing to do with the 3DS, but simply internal Capcom politics.
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As long as the 3DS sells "poor" 3rd party has no interesst in the platform. I hope sales increase and 3rd party get their interest back

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3DS needs games to be succesful and if the 3rd party developers aren't going to push out decent games then it's Nintendos job to do it.

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For those saying that these games aren't going to be missed - that's fine, but I think there's a greater implication. Will the cancellation lead to further cancellations from other developers? That phenomenon does seem to happen on platforms sometimes...
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I was keeping an eye on Assassin's Creed and Saint's Row and am quite disappointed by the news. It seems like my reasons for getting a 3DS are getting shorter and shorter. Even if these games ended up trash, this could be the start of a domino effect. People aren't buying much 3DS because of the poor lineup of games so far. Poor 3DS sales could mean that more games could be cancelled and more developers could be following suit. This will all rebound on 3DS sales once again. Knowing Nintendo though, they'll be fine and the 3DS will do well after some time but this is still sad news for a handheld that just came out. Though I guess you could argue that this is nothing seriously since the handheld just came out.
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at the same time, I would argue that the time of underestimating the handheld is past. I'm not saying a game like Assassin's Creed should have a direct port- that might still be out of reach- but this idea that any console game with a handheld iteration can only be a cheap, 'me too' cash-in is false, but will be taken as true as long as people keep believing it and refusing to make the attempt.El_Zo1212o

I suppose it also depends on the developer, given Ubi's track record with portable iterations of main franchises, I'm not sure I trust them too much to deliver a solid AC offering on the 3DS. Then again, Ghost Recon was a total surprise at launch.

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]at the same time, I would argue that the time of underestimating the handheld is past. I'm not saying a game like Assassin's Creed should have a direct port- that might still be out of reach- but this idea that any console game with a handheld iteration can only be a cheap, 'me too' cash-in is false, but will be taken as true as long as people keep believing it and refusing to make the attempt.Haziqonfire

I suppose it also depends on the developer, given Ubi's track record with portable iterations of main franchises, I'm not sure I trust them too much to deliver a solid AC offering on the 3DS. Then again, Ghost Recon was a total surprise at launch.

I don't know where all this faithless talk is coming from- AC1 on DS was an ambitious attempt at making something resembling Assassin's Creed on a handheld- it had major issues, but it also had purely AC moments. AC2: Discovery was much more focused on making a game suitable to the platform while maintaining a more distinctly assassin-y feel. (Never played Bloodlines, so I can't weigh in on that one.) But in any event, after two outings on a handheld, I had complete faith in Lost Legacy, and now it doesn't look like I'm going to get an AC for my 3DS until AC 3 comes out.
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Are you people blind? Assassin's Creed, Saint's Row, Bomberman,(and not mentioned with Crush3d) the Shinobi delay- with the kind of hardware 3ds is packing, there's no reason NOT to mourn the demise of these games. The era of handhelds being the lesser form of videogame entertainment has passed; handheld games are now equal to the task of providing console staples such as full voice acting and open worlds. And a Nintendo handheld has yet to fail. Such a trend will not begin with the 3DS.El_Zo1212o

yeah I agree with you some of these titles could have been pretty good I was really looking forward to that bomberman game. It looked like bomberman64

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For those saying that these games aren't going to be missed - that's fine, but I think there's a greater implication. Will the cancellation lead to further cancellations from other developers? That phenomenon does seem to happen on platforms sometimes...so_hai
Why would it? Hell, other publishers would be happy for less competition. You think Capcom and Square Enix aren't happy about having to go against an Assassins Creed game?
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#26 so_hai
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[QUOTE="so_hai"]For those saying that these games aren't going to be missed - that's fine, but I think there's a greater implication. Will the cancellation lead to further cancellations from other developers? That phenomenon does seem to happen on platforms sometimes...Sepewrath
Why would it? Hell, other publishers would be happy for less competition. You think Capcom and Square Enix aren't happy about having to go against an Assassins Creed game?

I can't think of a platform that has failed that has not had a small, starved library - I'm making the point that in the long term cancellations can have a compounding effect.
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um shinobe was delayed lol so was crus3ed lol , and bomberman ya hudson shut down duh , , what you want , a miracle we didnt get timesplitters 4 now did we , no we did not

bomberman just a lost cause , as for saints row ya thats the only game i was interisted in that got canned , or mm3l , and ya im agree with the mod without games 3ds cant sell ,

and it will sell soon just give the darn thing time -im telling developers, its not like ps3 took off , or ds took off fast lol patience is a virtue and when you cant make your promise, that shows we as gamers can not keep supporting a developer who only shows off ,! and not goes through with the software that they showed off !