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#1 The_profeshenal
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Has anyone heard if Nintendo is developing a Wii with a better graphics engine? I got Metroid Prime 3 in the mail from Gamefly today and was disappointed in the graphocs compared to my PS3. They looked like Game Cube graphics. I know it wasn't built for awesome graphics but that doesn't mean that the newer version can't have better graphics.
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#2 Pesantez
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If your going to be one of those people who grip over graphics then the Wii isnt for you man. Personally we take the graphics we have for granted, i mean 10 years ago i wouldnt even have dreamed to see graphics like this. Honestly i would want nintendo to have better internet servers before graphics
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#3 black_ice23
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dude you are just spoiled by your ps3 graphics

this is the wii what did you expect?

that said, metroid prime is a great looking game on the wii, its push it to its limits and Pesantez is right if you are gonna complain and cant applaud what you see than this isnt the system for you

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#4 air_wolf_cubed
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Wii is not for you
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#5 dotWithShoes
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Has anyone heard if Nintendo is developing a Wii with a better graphics engine? I got Metroid Prime 3 in the mail from Gamefly today and was disappointed in the graphocs compared to my PS3. They looked like Game Cube graphics. I know it wasn't built for awesome graphics but that doesn't mean that the newer version can't have better graphics.The_profeshenal

Don't know how series I can take you by saying that.

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#6 wiiwillstand
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Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.
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#7 Arclight_Blue
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of course nintendo is developing the next Wii as of this moment, and it will probably have better graphics(im thinking of something similar to the x360) and they will release it on 2012
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#8 AlexSays
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I know it wasn't built for awesome graphics but that doesn't mean that the newer version can't have better graphics.The_profeshenal

It does have better graphics.

You're just too busy counting the leaves on the trees in your PS3 games to care about the difference between the Wii and the Gamecube.

Go play your PS3.

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#9 JLF1
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Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.wiiwillstand

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.
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#10 krimla
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[QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.JLF1

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

Sure, but it's the same old formula. I love & own a 360 but it provides a standard gaming formula (which is in no way a bad thing). The Wii on the other hand is a trailblazer when it comes to gaming. Sigh, I guess that I come from an age where control was king (8-bit NES) and I never expected my console to have the same graphics as the arcade. I just enjoyed the game for the fun it brought and graphics were a nice (but not) a necessary feature priority.

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#11 AlexSays
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[QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.JLF1

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

That's debatable.

If you're not a big fan of the FPS genre, like me, the only thing either of those consoles have to offer you is a couple RPG's.

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#14 stevenlance
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dude you are just spoiled by your ps3 graphics

this is the wii what did you expect?

that said, metroid prime is a great looking game on the wii, its push it to its limits and Pesantez is right if you are gonna complain and cant applaud what you see than this isnt the system for you

black_ice23

amen

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#15 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.JLF1

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

and yet crysis destroys both of them. if you're going to troll at least plan ahead of the results
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#16 The_profeshenal
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I never said i didn't enjoy my Wii. Some of you need more fiber in your diet your a little backed up and crabby. I was talking about the magic future and seeing if any of you Nintendophiles had heard any thing. I hadn't and I wanted to know.
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#17 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.krimla


Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

Sure, but it's the same old formula. I love & own a 360 but it provides a standard gaming formula (which is in no way a bad thing). The Wii on the other hand is a trailblazer when it comes to gaming. Sigh, I guess that I come from an age where control was king (8-bit NES) and I never expected my console to have the same graphics as the arcade. I just enjoyed the game for the fun it brought and graphics were a nice (but not) a necessary feature priority.

I haven't really seen anything on the Wii yet that is miles from the previous gen in gameplay
Where is this gen franchise revolution? N64 had Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time, GC has Metroid Prime. The Wii has?

The only thig the Wii has had this gen so far is last gen games with motion-control, not that that's a bad thing but not really revolutionary.

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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.AlexSays


Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

That's debatable.

If you're not a big fan of the FPS genre, like me, the only thing either of those consoles have to offer you is a couple RPG's.



The PS3 and 360 has Adventure games (Assassins Creed, Uncharted), action games ( Ninja Gaiden, Devil may cry), Racing simulators ( Forza, Gran Turismo), Arcade Racers (GriD, Burnout Paradise), Horror games ( Dead Rising, Siren), Platformers ( Ratchet and clank, Kameo), FPS (Halo, Call of Duty 4), TPS ( Gears of War), Strategy games ( CaC 3, Red Alert 3), JRPGs (Lost Odyssey, Disgaea 3), WRPGs (Oblivion, Too Human), Puzzle games (Lumines, Lemmings), Indie Games ( Braid, The Last Gay).

Is that enough genres for you?

Nintendo fanboys (Hint not fan but fanboys) usually states that there is a ton of games in the Wii people just aren't looking enough (which is true) yet they do the same with the PS3 or 360 gamelibrary.

EDIT: There is of course more games in each genre I mentioned and I only listed games already released.
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#19 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.air_wolf_cubed

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

and yet crysis destroys both of them. if you're going to troll at least plan ahead of the results



How is that trolling?

I only stated the truth. Both the PS3 and 360 has games with superb gameplay and graphics. The Wii has this too with games like Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and a couple of others.


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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.JLF1

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

and yet crysis destroys both of them. if you're going to troll at least plan ahead of the results



How is that trolling?

I only stated the truth. Both the PS3 and 360 has games with superb gameplay and graphics. The Wii has this too with games like Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and a couple of others.


This isnt system wars. We're only supposed to talk about Wii here. But it is true that the TC should obviously stick with his PS3 and just not bother with the Wii
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The PS3 and 360 has Adventure games (Assassins Creed, Uncharted), action games ( Ninja Gaiden, Devil may cry), Racing simulators ( Forza, Gran Turismo), Arcade Racers (GriD, Burnout Paradise), Horror games ( Dead Rising, Siren), Platformers ( Ratchet and clank, Kameo), FPS (Halo, Call of Duty 4), TPS ( Gears of War), Strategy games ( CaC 3, Red Alert 3), JRPGs (Lost Odyssey, Disgaea 3), WRPGs (Oblivion, Too Human), Puzzle games (Lumines, Lemmings), Indie Games ( Braid, The Last Gay).

Is that enough genres for you?

Nintendo fanboys (Hint not fan but fanboys) usually states that there is a ton of games in the Wii people just aren't looking enough (which is true) yet they do the same with the PS3 or 360 gamelibrary.JLF1

I say I don't like the FPS genre. And you list games from the FPS genre?

Someone can't read.

And you're already throwing the fanboy flag, which means you could care less what I have to say. So I'll disregard the rest of your post.

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#22 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.air_wolf_cubed

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

and yet crysis destroys both of them. if you're going to troll at least plan ahead of the results



How is that trolling?

I only stated the truth. Both the PS3 and 360 has games with superb gameplay and graphics. The Wii has this too with games like Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and a couple of others.


This isnt system wars. We're only supposed to talk about Wii here. But it is true that the TC should obviously stick with his PS3 and just not bother with the Wii


But I didn't bash the Wii neither was I trolling.


This is the Wii from, we are allowed to talk about the Wii in a negative way here (Which I didn't).
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#23 AlexSays
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.JLF1

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

and yet crysis destroys both of them. if you're going to troll at least plan ahead of the results



How is that trolling?

I only stated the truth. Both the PS3 and 360 has games with superb gameplay and graphics. The Wii has this too with games like Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and a couple of others.

Comparing consoles isn't allowed here.

You're comparing consoles.

Do you need more clarification, or is that enough?

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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="wiiwillstand"]Gameplay over graphics buddy, gameplay over graphics.air_wolf_cubed

Yet the PS3 and the 360 manages to have both superb graphics and gameplay.

and yet crysis destroys both of them. if you're going to troll at least plan ahead of the results



How is that trolling?

I only stated the truth. Both the PS3 and 360 has games with superb gameplay and graphics. The Wii has this too with games like Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and a couple of others.


This isnt system wars. We're only supposed to talk about Wii here. But it is true that the TC should obviously stick with his PS3 and just not bother with the Wii

This. No, Nintendo is not releasing an upgraded Wii. Nor should they. Wii Motion Plus is more than enough of an upgrade. If Wii graphics don't satisfy, then there are alternatives. BTW, Metroid Prime 3 is a beautiful game.
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#25 JLF1
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I say I don't like the FPS genre. And you list games from the FPS genre?

Someone can't read.

And you're already throwing the fanboy flag, which means you could care less what I have to say. So I'll disregard the rest of your post.

AlexSays

So What am I a fanboy of? The PS3? yes I own a PS3 but also a Wii, DS and PSP.


I am currently playing The Godfather in the Wii and I'm liking it very much.


I'm not the fanboy here, I can play games on all system unlike you it seems and geuss what? I'm the person who gets to play more great games.

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#26 Impurekind
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If you don't like the graphics in MP3 then I say get rid of the system. They are probably the best graphics I have seen on Wii and MP3 is one of the few games where I actually think the graphics are acceptable for a Wii game and in this generation of gaming in general. If they are not good enough for you I think you are going to find the Wii very dissapointing indeed. Don't blame ya though.
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#27 JLF1
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Comparing consoles isn't allowed here.

You're comparing consoles.

Do you need more clarification, or is that enough?

AlexSays

Alright then let me refrase my question.

What does graphics have to do with gameplay? Does the Wii have a higher chance of great gameplay compared to other more powerful consoles?

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#28 AlexSays
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

I say I don't like the FPS genre. And you list games from the FPS genre?

Someone can't read.

And you're already throwing the fanboy flag, which means you could care less what I have to say. So I'll disregard the rest of your post.

JLF1

So What am I a fanboy of?

Do you have reading troubles?

There, I underlined the part of my post you should read.

You know? The part where I said "you're throwing the fanboy flag".

Meaning you've already called me a fanboy, based on nothing.

So I can already tell this is going to be a "whoever argues with me is a fanboy" type of deal.

And I'm not interested.

Is that clear enough for you?

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What does graphics have to do with gameplay? Does the Wii have a higher chance of great gameplay compared to other more powerful consoles?

JLF1

lolwow

Didn't we just go over the whole comparing thing?

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#30 haziqonfire
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Graphics?
All I have to say is MM9 = one of the best games of the gen and it looks like a NES game.

Graphics mean absolutely nothing.
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#31 AlexSays
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All I have to say is MM9 = one of the best games of the gen and it looks like a NES game.Haziqonfire

Have you gotten anywhere?

I've played for like two hours and have only beaten Galaxy Man and Splash Woman. lol

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#32 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]


What does graphics have to do with gameplay? Does the Wii have a higher chance of great gameplay compared to other more powerful consoles?

AlexSays

lolwow

Didn't we just go over the whole comparing thing?


What's wrong with that?

It's common knowledge that the Wii is the weakest console this gen isn't it?

That doesn't mean it's not a kickass system with superb games. The PS2 was the weakest last gen yet it was clearly the best of them.

Gameplay is much more important than graphics that is obviously true but the Wii doesn't really have anything that makes it clearly better gameplaywise just like the PS3 and 360 doesn't have that either.

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#33 AlexSays
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]


What does graphics have to do with gameplay? Does the Wii have a higher chance of great gameplay compared to other more powerful consoles?

JLF1

lolwow

Didn't we just go over the whole comparing thing?


What's wrong with that?

Because this isn't the place to discuss this.

This will get locked sometime soon just because someone mentioned the 360, even more so because you're wanting to compare.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]All I have to say is MM9 = one of the best games of the gen and it looks like a NES game.AlexSays

Have you gotten anywhere?

I've played for like two hours and have only beaten Galaxy Man and Splash Woman. lol


I beat concrete man, galaxy man and splash woman.
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#35 Impurekind
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]


What does graphics have to do with gameplay? Does the Wii have a higher chance of great gameplay compared to other more powerful consoles?

AlexSays

lolwow

Didn't we just go over the whole comparing thing?

Why are you being so uptight about it?

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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]


What does graphics have to do with gameplay? Does the Wii have a higher chance of great gameplay compared to other more powerful consoles?

JLF1

lolwow

Didn't we just go over the whole comparing thing?


What's wrong with that?

It's common knowledge that the Wii is the weakest console this gen isn't it?

That doesn't mean it's not a kickass system with superb games. The PS2 was the weakest last gen yet it was clearly the best of them.

Gameplay is much more important than graphics that is obviously true but the Wii doesn't really have anything that makes it clearly better gameplaywise just like the PS3 and 360 doesn't have that either.

FPS controls via Wii Remote pointer and Nunchuk.
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#37 JLF1
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Because this isn't the place to discuss this.

This will get locked sometime soon just because someone mentioned the 360, even more so because you're wanting to compare.

AlexSays


Actually that's not true.

I only said that all three consoles have superb gameplay.

YOU were the one claiming the 360 didn't.

YOU were the one stating a negative thing about a console, not me, You.

YOU were the one stating the 360 only had FPS games and a few rpgs and made a very childish remark that because I added FPS games in the 360 genre list the whole list was debunk (laughable).
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#38 JLF1
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FPS controls via Wii Remote pointer and Nunchuk.FFCYAN

Yes it's true that the Wii-mote is good for FPS games but there is also a lot of genres were it doesn't work as good (Fighter, Racers).
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#39 FFCYAN
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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

FPS controls via Wii Remote pointer and Nunchuk.JLF1

Yes it's true that the Wii-mote is good for FPS games but there is also a lot of genres were it doesn't work as good (Fighter, Racers).

Classic remote. Has dual analog sticks too. Yes, it's an attachment, but so is the Nunchuk.
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#40 AlexSays
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Actually that's not true.

I only said that all three consoles have superb gameplay.

YOU were the one claiming the 360 didn't.

YOU were the one stating a negative thing about a console, not me, You.

YOU were the one stating the 360 only had FPS games and a few rpgs and made a very childish remark that because I added FPS games in the 360 genre list the whole list was debunk (laughable).JLF1

Once again, your reading capabilites are keeping me from taking you seriously.

I already said, I disregarded your post because you called me a fanboy, without caring for me to explain.

I also never degraded the games on the 360. Instead of asking me why games on the 360 don't interest me, you proceeded to calling me a fanboy.

I never said anything bad about console, you're only taking in whatever you want.

If you want someone to take you seriously, I suggest you lose the attitude, and read carefully.

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#41 TacoJelly
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First you need to seperate between style/art design and technology. On the technology side, Wii loses every time... but, if you look at the design: amount of new environments and characters (i.e. not recycled assets), complexity of designs, and overall keeping the aesthetic consistent with the games story,theme and gameplay; Metroid, as well as many other games on wii, are very beautiful games.

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#42 JLF1
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Once again, your reading capabilites are keeping me from taking you seriously.

I already said, I disregarded your post because you called me a fanboy, without caring for me to explain.

I also never degraded the games on the 360. Instead of asking me why games on the 360 don't interest me, you proceeded to calling me a fanboy.

I never said anything bad about console, you're only taking in whatever you want.

If you want someone to take you seriously, I suggest you lose the attitude, and read carefully.

AlexSays

Once again you are the one flaming me which is against the rules.

I never called you a Fanboy. I said that Wii fanboys (as in plural) generally accuse people for not looking at the Wii library when they themselves do the same thing with the PS3 and 360.

Saying that the 360 only has FPS games is like saying the Wii doesn't have any good games.
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#43 AlexSays
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Once again you are the one flaming me which is against the rules.

I never called you a Fanboy. I said that Wii fanboys (as in plural) generally accuse people for not looking at the Wii library when they themselves do the same thing with the PS3 and 360.

Saying that the 360 only has FPS games is like saying the Wii doesn't have any good games.JLF1

1.) I haven't called you any names. Report me.

2.) That plural form just so happened to be mixed in with your response to me.

3.) Show me where I said the 360 only has FPS's.

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#44 Dark_Link142
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Metroid...Prime...3...bad graphics?

Either way, why'd you buy the Wii if you're going to complain about the graphics (which can be really good anyway)?

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#45 nnfnnfnfnnfnnf
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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

FPS controls via Wii Remote pointer and Nunchuk.JLF1

Yes it's true that the Wii-mote is good for FPS games but there is also a lot of genres were it doesn't work as good (Fighter, Racers).

The wiimote is fun for Mario Kart and more arcade type racing games, but maybe it wouldn't work as well for more realistic type racers.

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#46 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]
Once again you are the one flaming me which is against the rules.

I never called you a Fanboy. I said that Wii fanboys (as in plural) generally accuse people for not looking at the Wii library when they themselves do the same thing with the PS3 and 360.

Saying that the 360 only has FPS games is like saying the Wii doesn't have any good games.AlexSays

1.) I haven't called you any names. Report me.

2.) That plural form just so happened to be mixed in with your response to me.

3.) Show me where I said the 360 only has FPS's.



1.) saying that I lack reading comprehension is calling me namnes.

2.) Yet a plural form not and directed to you.

3.)

That's debatable.

If you're not a big fan of the FPS genre, like me, the only thing either of those consoles have to offer you is a couple RPG's.AlexSays


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#47 AlexSays
Member since 2008 • 6612 Posts
[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]
Once again you are the one flaming me which is against the rules.

I never called you a Fanboy. I said that Wii fanboys (as in plural) generally accuse people for not looking at the Wii library when they themselves do the same thing with the PS3 and 360.

Saying that the 360 only has FPS games is like saying the Wii doesn't have any good games.JLF1

1.) I haven't called you any names. Report me.

2.) That plural form just so happened to be mixed in with your response to me.

3.) Show me where I said the 360 only has FPS's.



1.) saying that I lack reading comprehension is calling me namnes.

2.) Yet a plural form not and directed to you.

3.)

That's debatable.

If you're not a big fan of the FPS genre, like me, the only thing either of those consoles have to offer you is a couple RPG's.AlexSays

1.) You do lack reading comprehension. That's not my opinion, it's what I've come up with after you've misread several of my posts in such a short time span.

2.) If I start talking to a Blockbuster employee, and then I say all Blockbuster employees are idiots, who's going to be offended? The Blockbuster employee you're talking to? Yeahp, you're right.

3.) The only genre I like on the other consoles are the RPG's. Are you going to start telling me what I can and cannot like?

It doesn't matter how many genres or games the other consoles have, because I only like a few of them. But for some reason you don't want me to explain that.

Instead, you've come to the Wii boards claiming how great the PS3 and 360 are, and calling me a fanboy when I don't agree with what you say.

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#48 SoraX64
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I think you two need to stop arguing over something so pointless. Who cares if the Wii is not as powerful as the others? I don't.

I'm no fanboy, I play video games FOR THE FUN OF IT. Everyone has their own preferences. I just think JLF1 is making more of a point and AlexSays is just trying to talk his way out of it. JLF IMO has brought up the best points and now this dispute should stop. You both should. Your arguement belongs in SW.

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#49 AlexSays
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I just think JLF1 is making more of a point and AlexSays is just trying to talk his way out of it. JLF IMO has brought up the best points and now this dispute should stop. You both should. Your arguement belongs in SW.

SoraX64

1.) Little late to the party? Nobody has posted in like an hour, and you rush in to break things up?

2.) I'm the one that said this belongs in SW, and this shouldn't be continued. You agree with that, and say I'm backing out?

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#50 rgame1
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i honestly just feel like punching the TC. I mean comon...