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#1 Maxned
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OK, according to Xbox 360 World Report (a Magazine), Goldeneye was coming to Xbox 360 in mid-2007. However, there was the small matter of Nintendo's approval. Rare and Microsoft representatives talked with Reggie Fils-Aime and Satoru Iwata about the matter. Rare agreed to PORT GOLDENEYE TO WII and also to bring RARE TITLES TO THE VIRTUAL CONSOLE if Nintendo allowed the game to be on the 360.

Fils-Aime agreed, but Iwata did not. He said that he didn't want to see the game on another console.

Ok, so if Iwata agreed to this, we would have gotten:

  • Goldeneye Remake on Wii
  • Banjo-Kazooie on VC
  • Banjo-Tooie on VC
  • Donkey Kong 64 on VC
  • Perfect Dark on VC
  • Goldeneye 007 on VC

WHY WOULD YOU NOT AGREE TO THIS!?!

www.gonintendo.com reported this, aswell as Xbox 360 World Report Magazine

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#2 Helen_Mirren
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You forgot to mention that this is entirely unconfirmed and may have actually originated on Penny Arcade's message board, which is hardly a legitimate source for news.
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#3 nazkull
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yea, I just red that. Dang Iwata is extremely stupid. It is some of the best games on the N64 that we could have on VC.

STUPID IWATA!

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#4 Jazunn
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As much as I don't care for Rare games & Golden eye, this is dissapointing. This was a win-win situation for everyone involved. And a 10 year old game will not affect console sales.
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#5 TheLordMagnus
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Wow, a port of GoldenEye..with hopefully online features....would have been insane. However, its mind boggling that no one is working on that killer FPS for the Wii. The first company to make one is going to make crazy amounts of money. Wii owners are dying for this.
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#6 m_machine024
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If this is true.... *wildly smashes head on keyboard*
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#7 ag1052
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this is all still rumors... dont talk about it as if it were fact.
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#8 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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You forgot to mention that this is entirely unconfirmed and may have actually originated on Penny Arcade's message board, which is hardly a legitimate source for news.

Link


Helen_Mirren

There we go! Much better!

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#9 Maxned
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You forgot to mention that this is entirely unconfirmed and may have actually originated on Penny Arcade's message board, which is hardly a legitimate source for news.
Helen_Mirren

Actually no it didnt. -.-

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#10 ag1052
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[QUOTE="Helen_Mirren"]You forgot to mention that this is entirely unconfirmed and may have actually originated on Penny Arcade's message board, which is hardly a legitimate source for news.

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Technoweirdo

There we go! Much better!

but that gonintendo site still says the info originally came from penny arcade's forum....
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#11 bob_newman
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I think this is still in rumour stage, but if it turns out to be true, then Iwata has a damn strong sense of integrity.
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#12 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]

[QUOTE="Helen_Mirren"]You forgot to mention that this is entirely unconfirmed and may have actually originated on Penny Arcade's message board, which is hardly a legitimate source for news.

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ag1052

There we go! Much better!

but that gonintendo site still says the info originally came from penny arcade's forum....

I know. I added the link to confirm what Helen_Mirren said.

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#13 stanley2011
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yea, I just red that. Dang Iwata is extremely stupid. It is some of the best games on the N64 that we could have on VC.

STUPID IWATA!

nazkull

You are really stupid, without Iwata we wouldnt see video game as we are seeing today.Yes Iwata did make a really dumb decision IF ITS TRUE but everybody makes dumb decisions once an a while:D:DThat is sad

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#14 ag1052
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[QUOTE="ag1052"][QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]

[QUOTE="Helen_Mirren"]You forgot to mention that this is entirely unconfirmed and may have actually originated on Penny Arcade's message board, which is hardly a legitimate source for news.

Link


Technoweirdo

There we go! Much better!

but that gonintendo site still says the info originally came from penny arcade's forum....

I know. I added the link to confirm what Helen_Mirren said.

ahh... I misunderstood your reason for adding in the link...
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#15 fishfake
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for us gamers its bad but for nintendo its good :)

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#16 JAB991
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I agree with Iwata on this. Financially, of course it's a good plan for Nintendo to not let some of their golden games from the N64 go to the XBLA. Secondly, as a Nintendo fanboy, I don't want them there either. Games like Banjo Kazooie and GoldenEye and other RARE N64 games helped make that system as great as it was and they have absolutely no business popping up on the 360. I'm willing to let them be off the VC if it means they're off the 360 as well. I'd rather them be nowhere than be where they don't belong.
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#17 kingqaz
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I don't think it's true for two reasons. Firstly this:

You forgot to mention that this is entirely unconfirmed and may have actually originated on Penny Arcade's message board, which is hardly a legitimate source for news.
Helen_Mirren

and secondly this:
Goldeneye 007 on VCMaxned

That francise is now owned by activison I believe. I imagine it would take their aproval as well not just Rare and Microsoft's aproval.

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I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

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#19 ag1052
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Hooray Iwata!!!

Jaysonguy
you dont hear people say this as muh as they should.
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#20 fleig_man
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I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Jaysonguy

amen...

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#21 haziqonfire
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i dont care really, doubt its true also, theres not enough solid proof saying it is.
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#22 realzelda
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i agree with iwata i wouldnt like it to be on the 360 also even that i have a 360. i think if u leave the game completely it is a classic and shouldnt be touched only way i would want is on vc and nothing new added unless if they do it 100% right but i dont think they should do a remake of it because be bad and people would complain so much saying oh this game is outdated halo3 and cod 4 is way better just be stupid
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i dont care really, doubt its true also, theres not enough solid proof saying it is.Haziqonfire

There'a actually no solid proof whatsoever, not yet at least.

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#24 m_machine024
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for us gamers its bad but for nintendo its good :)fishfake

And you're smiling because? lol

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#26 m_machine024
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I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Jaysonguy
I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.
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#27 colonel_beeb
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I'm sure a 360 mag has an exclusive on an updated version of goldeneye, coming to live arcade, sometime very soon. It wouldn't suprise me if Iwata backed down or even if this was all fabricated because at the end of the day Nintendo are out to make money. If they let it go through then they'll have a slightly bigger bank balance.
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#28 bob_newman
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

m_machine024

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

If Nintendo allowed their former exclusives on a Microsoft console, they're backing down.

Just play it on the N64 if you have one. That's what I do.

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#29 Maxned
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

m_machine024

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

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#30 bob_newman
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Maxned

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

It's about integrity. It's also about money. The Xbox version will have much better online (We might not even get online because the VC doesn't play games any differently than originally planned) and many older fans will want to go with that version.

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#31 waelzleb
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ahh i love those games
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Maxned

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

Great, you be Switzerland, try to see the best on the Allies and the Axis

There's a reason why console sales are called wars

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[QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

bob_newman

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

It's about integrity. It's also about money. The Xbox version will have much better online (We might not even get online because the VC doesn't play games any differently than originally planned) and many older fans will want to go with that version.

Im kinda neutral on this situation. One moment Im thinking "Hey, lets not say we wouldnt want a great game on the VC just because of pride." But the next is "But if Nintendo does this, people might lose respect for them." I guess Nintendo does know best...

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#34 hards80
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Anything that prevents good games from being released is bad for gamers. I can see their point-of-view to some respect, but still in the end its gamers that lose.

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#35 roll450
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OK I may sound really you know but I actually agree with Iwata because those games belonged on a Nintendo console before not on a Microsoft console and. really what next you see donkey kong 64 on the 360 while it should belong to Nintendo since they made up donkey Kong and I remember back then they had golden eye for the N64 and it was great. But look at the 360 it is almost entirely made up of FPS which I'm sort of getting into the same old same old idea so why cant Nintendo get some of the FPS for the Nintendo Wii since I still hear hardcore gamers saying the wii is just for kids.

please I'm not trying to say whether the topic is bad is just that Nintendo games should belong on a Nintendo console while Microsoft games should belong on a Microsoft console

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#36 Lunar52
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As much as I think Iwata is kickass I also think thats a selfish decision decision. It reminds me of elementary school when the group of kids who played sports had to have the WHOLE basket ball court ALL to themselve...REGGIE FTW btw he kicks ass
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#38 m_machine024
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My N64 is broken since long time ago.

I don't see why support this I mean what benefit are you getting from this honestly? Nada. Accepting that deal would be the good decision for us gamers but people care about more Nintendo pride. LOL. Who cares if Goldeneye ends on 360? It's only freakin' one game. No big deal. And gamers will end to enjoy thoses classic.. Pride... lol gimme a break. You people make yourselves look like fanboys thinking about Nintendo more than your own enjoyment. "OMG I love Nintendo sooooo much that I don't care if they threat us bad as long as they have their pride..." LMAO.

Don't take the above too seriously. I just want to play Banjo. >_>

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#39 bob_newman
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My N64 is broken since long time ago.

I don't see why support this I mean what benefit are you getting from this honestly? Nada. Accepting that deal would be the good decision for us gamers but people care about more Nintendo pride. LOL. Who cares if Goldeneye ends on 360? It's only freakin' one game. No big deal. And gamers will end to enjoy thoses classic.. Pride... lol gimme a break. You people make yourselves look like fanboys thinking about Nintendo more than your own enjoyment. "OMG I love Nintendo sooooo much that I don't care if they threat us bad as long as they have their pride..." LMAO.

Don't take the above too seriously. I just want to play Banjo. >_>

m_machine024

Don't be blind. It's more than Goldeneye. It's about the fact that once Microsoft sees how easy it is to walk over Nintendo they'll start trying to get the rights to all of Nintendo's former exclusive titles, and from there they could start buying Nintendo shares, who knows?

You're not in the business, so you obviously don't know that it's more than just one game here. There's something going on in the background that we're not seeing.

Remember, everything that a company does is about money. When Iwata weighed the outcomes (Which he obviously did. He's not a CEO for nothing), for whatever reason he saw that it was a better idea to go with the decision he did.

Also, this is still just a rumour right now, so nobody knows what happened, if anything.

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Donkey KOng 64 will be on the VC anyway because it's Donkey Kong and it's a Nintendo franchise. I wanted to play some Banjo but if it doesn't appear I would not die because of that.
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#41 colonel_beeb
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Some of these responses are hilarious. Integrity, you cant be serious. Have you SEEN the amount of shovelware **** that has been released on the Wii. Half the shelf at GAME and other stores are full of cheap tacky garbage that Nintendo have given the go ahead to allow on their system (ofcourse they dont produce it themselves, except for the odd mario party game ;) ). If they new anything about integrity they wouldn't allow these games to be given away. Frankly the arguement that because they were on a Nintendo console this somehow makes goldeneye being redeveloped for the 360 a show of weekness is crap. Goldeneye is a fantastic game as are all Rare games. It's similar to locking a beautiful bird up in your house because you dont want it to fly into the garden of someone you dislike and let them appreciate it. The word to describe this behaviour is "spiteful".
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Some of these responses are hilarious. Integrity, you cant be serious. Have you SEEN the amount of shovelware **** that has been released on the Wii. Half the shelf at GAME and other stores are full of cheap tacky garbage that Nintendo have given the go ahead to allow on their system (ofcourse they dont produce it themselves, except for the odd mario party game ;) ). If they new anything about integrity they wouldn't allow these games to be given away.colonel_beeb

Please research what you're talking about next time

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Hope it isn't true.
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#44 Maxned
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[QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Jaysonguy

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

Great, you be Switzerland, try to see the best on the Allies and the Axis

There's a reason why console sales are called wars

And thats the reason you're a fanboy.

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#45 ag1052
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Maxned

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

ok a couple things...

First, what I have already said is we dont know this is true right now and if it is we dont know if we have heard the whole story or not.

Second, Iwata has done so much for gaming... he has made so many good choices over his career shouldnt we give him the benifit of the doubt in a situation such as this. He know what he is doing, he has proven that to us year after year.

Third, The rumor that gonintendo was talking about said part of the rumor was that nintendo doesnt have any real legal way to stop this from being made but just the thought of hurting the relatioship with nintendo was enough to make Activision stop from making it... So even by this still very speculative rumor Iwata just said he doesnt want it to happen, its Activision who actually had the say so one way or the other.

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#46 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Maxned

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

Great, you be Switzerland, try to see the best on the Allies and the Axis

There's a reason why console sales are called wars

And thats the reason you're a fanboy.

No I understand it's a business, it's a fight, you don't stop hitting just because someone is on the mat

You want people to all shake hands and go out to dinner, that doesn't happen in the real world

You want to play it like it's a 4 year old's soccer game where goals don't count and "we're all here to have fun" be my guest, just know that nothing in the world operates like that

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#47 Maxned
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[QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Jaysonguy

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

Great, you be Switzerland, try to see the best on the Allies and the Axis

There's a reason why console sales are called wars

And thats the reason you're a fanboy.

No I understand it's a business, it's a fight, you don't stop hitting just because someone is on the mat

You want people to all shake hands and go out to dinner, that doesn't happen in the real world

You want to play it like it's a 4 year old's soccer game where goals don't count and "we're all here to have fun" be my guest, just know that nothing in the world operates like that

Listen, I've been a nintendo fan all my life but I also respect other consoles. There is no war here.. its just games. Come on...

And I havent played the best third party games in about 5 years.

BANJO!!

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#48 Maxned
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[QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Jaysonguy

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

Great, you be Switzerland, try to see the best on the Allies and the Axis

There's a reason why console sales are called wars

And thats the reason you're a fanboy.

No I understand it's a business, it's a fight, you don't stop hitting just because someone is on the mat

You want people to all shake hands and go out to dinner, that doesn't happen in the real world

You want to play it like it's a 4 year old's soccer game where goals don't count and "we're all here to have fun" be my guest, just know that nothing in the world operates like that

Listen, I've been a nintendo fan all my life but I also respect other consoles. There is no war here.. its just games. Come on...

And I havent played the best third party games in about 5 years.

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#49 bob_newman
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[QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I love it and support him 100%

Shame on you who want Nintendo to back down

Hooray Iwata!!!

Does Nintendo own everyone this gen?

This keeps them there

I love it!

Jaysonguy

I don't want Nintendo to back down... I just want some Banjo on VC.

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

Great, you be Switzerland, try to see the best on the Allies and the Axis

There's a reason why console sales are called wars

And thats the reason you're a fanboy.

No I understand it's a business, it's a fight, you don't stop hitting just because someone is on the mat

You want people to all shake hands and go out to dinner, that doesn't happen in the real world

You want to play it like it's a 4 year old's soccer game where goals don't count and "we're all here to have fun" be my guest, just know that nothing in the world operates like that

Or the Special Olympics; "Where Everyone is a Winner."

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#50 ag1052
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Maxned"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="Maxned"]

Seriously... I dont care if Microsoft has it... why would we care if we get to play the game. Anyways, if they were brought to the the 360, then twice as many people can experience those wonderful classics.

Maxned

Great, you be Switzerland, try to see the best on the Allies and the Axis

There's a reason why console sales are called wars

And thats the reason you're a fanboy.

No I understand it's a business, it's a fight, you don't stop hitting just because someone is on the mat

You want people to all shake hands and go out to dinner, that doesn't happen in the real world

You want to play it like it's a 4 year old's soccer game where goals don't count and "we're all here to have fun" be my guest, just know that nothing in the world operates like that

Listen, I've been a nintendo fan all my life but I also respect other consoles. There is no war here.. its just games. Come on...

And I havent played the best third party games in about 5 years.

yep... 4 year old soccer world...