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#1 PowerStarved
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Yeah, this question may be redundent or stupid but I'll ask anyway. I know that just because the 3DS came out the production of DS games won't stop, however will certain game companies produce games solely for one of the two? Like for instance, I'm really looking forward to Professor Layton vs. Pheonix Wright in the one trailer Japan has made they only mentioned the 3DS. Will this be like the DVD or Blue Ray? Just because they only mention the 3DS doesn't essentially mean that it won't be available for the DS to right? I'm just asking because if the Pheonix Wright and Professor Layton series are just going to market for the 3DS now I may buy it.

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#2 haziqonfire
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That means those games are coming for the 3DS and NOT the original DS.
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#3 riariases
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The 3DS is the new generation of the DS. Was Fable 2 released for the Xbox? Was Killzone 3 released for the PS2? Was Super Mario Galaxy released for the Gamecube? No, so why are you expecting Layton vs. Pheonix Wright to be released for the DS? There really won't be many games coming out for the DS in the future.
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#4 El_Zo1212o
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The 3DS is the new generation of the DS. Was Fable 2 released for the Xbox? Was Killzone 3 released for the PS2? Was Super Mario Galaxy released for the Gamecube? No, so why are you expecting Layton vs. Pheonix Wright to be released for the DS? There really won't be many games coming out for the DS in the future.riariases
Wrong. In principle, if not in specifics. Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, Gun- even NiGHTS: Into Dreams for a later example- they all appeared on last and current gen consoles. Just because the new generation is out doesn't mean the old generation is cut off as of launch day. Will Layton vs Wright be released on DS? It could, that much is sure, but it probably won't since it's being touted as a big 3ds seller.
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#5 ArchoNils2
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It's like it'ss always if a new system releases. Some games are exclusive to the new system, some for the old and some release on both. It all depends on the game and the publishers choice

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#6 riariases
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[QUOTE="riariases"]The 3DS is the new generation of the DS. Was Fable 2 released for the Xbox? Was Killzone 3 released for the PS2? Was Super Mario Galaxy released for the Gamecube? No, so why are you expecting Layton vs. Pheonix Wright to be released for the DS? There really won't be many games coming out for the DS in the future.El_Zo1212o
Wrong. In principle, if not in specifics. Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, Gun- even NiGHTS: Into Dreams for a later example- they all appeared on last and current gen consoles. Just because the new generation is out doesn't mean the old generation is cut off as of launch day. Will Layton vs Wright be released on DS? It could, that much is sure, but it probably won't since it's being touted as a big 3ds seller.

NiGHTS: Into Dreams was first released for the Sega Saturn back in 1996 and there was a REMAKE for the PS2 in 2008. And there was a sequal for the Wii. And Mercenaries 2 was an enhanced PS2 port, which is why the graphics sucked so much. They originally planned it for the PS2 but the new consoles were released so they just decided they would try and sell it to the 150 million PS2 owners and then get some sales for the Xbox 360 and PS3. Seriously, the graphics are the worst next generation graphics I've ever seen. So yeah, those aren't good examples, or examples at all.
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#7 AlmightyDerek
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The DVD/bluray analogy doesn't really work. It's easy to take a movie and transfer it to different formats whether it's DVD, Blu-ray, downloadable or streaming as it's just a video file that something plays. For games they have to actually make multiple versions. The 3DS is much more powerful than the DS so if a game is made for the 3DS it won't work for the DS. They have to make a seperate version sometimes from scratch. While it's possible they'll release it on both consoles it probably isn't likely. You should just get a 3DS.

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#8 BrunoBRS
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just like in 2006-07 you still had PS2 versions of PS3 games, there might still be some 3DS games with DS versions. but for all effects, a 3DS game is a 3DS game and a 3DS game only.
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#9 El_Zo1212o
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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="riariases"]The 3DS is the new generation of the DS. Was Fable 2 released for the Xbox? Was Killzone 3 released for the PS2? Was Super Mario Galaxy released for the Gamecube? No, so why are you expecting Layton vs. Pheonix Wright to be released for the DS? There really won't be many games coming out for the DS in the future.riariases
Wrong. In principle, if not in specifics. Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, Gun- even NiGHTS: Into Dreams for a later example- they all appeared on last and current gen consoles. Just because the new generation is out doesn't mean the old generation is cut off as of launch day. Will Layton vs Wright be released on DS? It could, that much is sure, but it probably won't since it's being touted as a big 3ds seller.

NiGHTS: Into Dreams was first released for the Sega Saturn back in 1996 and there was a REMAKE for the PS2 in 2008. And there was a sequal for the Wii. And Mercenaries 2 was an enhanced PS2 port, which is why the graphics sucked so much. They originally planned it for the PS2 but the new consoles were released so they just decided they would try and sell it to the 150 million PS2 owners and then get some sales for the Xbox 360 and PS3. Seriously, the graphics are the worst next generation graphics I've ever seen. So yeah, those aren't good examples, or examples at all.

The fact is the same game was released on both consoles. Splitting hairs does not prove your point. Edit: but if you insist, there was also Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest on GBA and DS, TMNT on GBA and DS, even THOR: God of Thunder is going to be released on DS and 3DS.
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#10 emirblade
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There will be games. nut not that much for maybe a year or two???

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#11 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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Well, to the original poster, here is my take on the current situation of the DS.

As far as I can tell... And this is judging by the looks of the current list of games announced to be in-development for the DS right now... There really aren't going to be many more new games for it.

Now that doesn't mean the DS is completely dead. A while ago there was talk about a Fire Emblem 3 remake on the DS, and that might still be in the works unless development has shifted to the 3DS or has been stopped altogether. Nintendo is notorious for releasing a 3rd version of every new Pokemon game, and while they might decide to do something like that on the 3DS, it's expected that an updated version of Black and White would be released on the DS. (If you look at their track record, Pokemon Crystal and Pokemon Emerald did come pretty late in the GBC and GBA's lifespans.)

Talking specifically about the Professor Layton series of games... Well, there is a DS Layton game that was never released outside of Japan, the Spectre's Flute. Whether or not this game will see release anywhere else I don't know, but the games seem to release stateside a few years late.

But Layton VS. Wright and Mask of Miracle are both 3DS games, and I haven't heard anything about DS ports.

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#12 riariases
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[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] Wrong. In principle, if not in specifics. Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, Gun- even NiGHTS: Into Dreams for a later example- they all appeared on last and current gen consoles. Just because the new generation is out doesn't mean the old generation is cut off as of launch day. Will Layton vs Wright be released on DS? It could, that much is sure, but it probably won't since it's being touted as a big 3ds seller.El_Zo1212o
NiGHTS: Into Dreams was first released for the Sega Saturn back in 1996 and there was a REMAKE for the PS2 in 2008. And there was a sequal for the Wii. And Mercenaries 2 was an enhanced PS2 port, which is why the graphics sucked so much. They originally planned it for the PS2 but the new consoles were released so they just decided they would try and sell it to the 150 million PS2 owners and then get some sales for the Xbox 360 and PS3. Seriously, the graphics are the worst next generation graphics I've ever seen. So yeah, those aren't good examples, or examples at all.

The fact is the same game was released on both consoles. Splitting hairs does not prove your point. Edit: but if you insist, there was also Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest on GBA and DS, TMNT on GBA and DS, even THOR: God of Thunder is going to be released on DS and 3DS.

Also LEGO Pirates of the Carribean for DS and 3DS. But really, most of those games are the exact thing with just better resolution and extra control features fitting the new system. P.S. Super Mario 64, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy I and II and tons of other 'remakes' are really just ports usually with better remakes.
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#13 Chopinist
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[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] Wrong. In principle, if not in specifics. Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, Gun- even NiGHTS: Into Dreams for a later example- they all appeared on last and current gen consoles. Just because the new generation is out doesn't mean the old generation is cut off as of launch day. Will Layton vs Wright be released on DS? It could, that much is sure, but it probably won't since it's being touted as a big 3ds seller.El_Zo1212o
NiGHTS: Into Dreams was first released for the Sega Saturn back in 1996 and there was a REMAKE for the PS2 in 2008. And there was a sequal for the Wii. And Mercenaries 2 was an enhanced PS2 port, which is why the graphics sucked so much. They originally planned it for the PS2 but the new consoles were released so they just decided they would try and sell it to the 150 million PS2 owners and then get some sales for the Xbox 360 and PS3. Seriously, the graphics are the worst next generation graphics I've ever seen. So yeah, those aren't good examples, or examples at all.

The fact is the same game was released on both consoles. Splitting hairs does not prove your point. Edit: but if you insist, there was also Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest on GBA and DS, TMNT on GBA and DS, even THOR: God of Thunder is going to be released on DS and 3DS.

Are we forgetting Twillight Princess?

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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="riariases"] NiGHTS: Into Dreams was first released for the Sega Saturn back in 1996 and there was a REMAKE for the PS2 in 2008. And there was a sequal for the Wii. And Mercenaries 2 was an enhanced PS2 port, which is why the graphics sucked so much. They originally planned it for the PS2 but the new consoles were released so they just decided they would try and sell it to the 150 million PS2 owners and then get some sales for the Xbox 360 and PS3. Seriously, the graphics are the worst next generation graphics I've ever seen. So yeah, those aren't good examples, or examples at all.Chopinist

The fact is the same game was released on both consoles. Splitting hairs does not prove your point. Edit: but if you insist, there was also Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest on GBA and DS, TMNT on GBA and DS, even THOR: God of Thunder is going to be released on DS and 3DS.

Are we forgetting Twillight Princess?

Obviously Twilight Princess was an exception because they moved it to the Wii but still had to release it on the Gamecube as they had promised the fans that it would be coming for years. The only games that will have a DS and a 3DS version are games that are multiplatform. If it's coming out on several consoles (like any liscenced game or a game like Call of Duty) than it'll probably be on both. If it's a game that would normally be an exclusive like phoenix wright or Professor Layton than there's a good chance it will only be on one system. That's just how the videogame industry works.
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#15 riariases
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[QUOTE="Chopinist"]

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] The fact is the same game was released on both consoles. Splitting hairs does not prove your point. Edit: but if you insist, there was also Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest on GBA and DS, TMNT on GBA and DS, even THOR: God of Thunder is going to be released on DS and 3DS.AlmightyDerek

Are we forgetting Twillight Princess?

Obviously Twilight Princess was an exception because they moved it to the Wii but still had to release it on the Gamecube as they had promised the fans that it would be coming for years. The only games that will have a DS and a 3DS version are games that are multiplatform. If it's coming out on several consoles (like any liscenced game or a game like Call of Duty) than it'll probably be on both. If it's a game that would normally be an exclusive like phoenix wright or Professor Layton than there's a good chance it will only be on one system. That's just how the videogame industry works.

I should have said that. Yes, the only games that will be on the DS AND 3DS will be multiplatform games, not 3DS exclusives. And Twilight Princess for the Wii was a Gamecube PORT. They just mirrored the game and added in progressive scan, 16:9 and Wii controls.

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#16 El_Zo1212o
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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="riariases"] The fact is the same game was released on both consoles. Splitting hairs does not prove your point. Edit: but if you insist, there was also Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest on GBA and DS, TMNT on GBA and DS, even THOR: God of Thunder is going to be released on DS and 3DS.riariases
Also LEGO Pirates of the Carribean for DS and 3DS. But really, most of those games are the exact thing with just better resolution and extra control features fitting the new system.

The funny thing about that is that TMNT and Pirates2(and presumably Thor, when it hits 3DS) are very different games from one system to the next in all three cases the previous gen version was based on sprites and the current gen games were polygonal. And Chopinist: touche', sir. I had missed that one entirely. Edit:
... Yes, the only games that will be on the DS AND 3DS will be multiplatform games, not 3DS exclusives...riariases
That sort of goes without saying, doesn't it? I mean, 'exclusive' (in this context) means 'only available on one system.'
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#17 El_Zo1212o
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@Riariases: one last note about your previous claim regarding Mercenaries 2: Considering that Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction was released in the same year that Xbox 360 launched, it seems odd that they would develop the next installment of their most beloved(if not exactly their most famous) franchise on obsolete hardware and then shiny it up for the next gen. (Especially when they didn't even develop the PS2 version- that was Artificial Mind and Movement ;))
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#18 mariokart64fan
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ya some games will still be released for ds psp -see duke nukem trillogy

and some will not and some will be on both-harvest moon any one

nintendo is keeping ds out in case 3ds ends up a flop which i doubt see unlike some other i see 3ds going off once its getting good games it will start soaring ,

they are smart remember when ds first came out and was a third pillar this is what 3ds is for now a third pillar