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#1 GreekGameManiac
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I'm sick of all those little kids saying they had trouble with the Silent Realms or most of the games.

Are you.freaking.KIDDING ME???

It's the easiest Zelda since PH!!!

The entire game was watered down significantly,for casuals.

No more,Nintendo!

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#2 WreckEm711
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Hardly, Twilight Princess was much, much easier. The entire reason I hated TP was because I got through the entire game with zero trouble at all, the only death I had was when I went AFK to answer the door and something got me :lol:

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#3 wiifan001
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No more...what? No more what? No more voice acting? Is it voice acting? Because I would agree there; Skyward Sword had way too much voice acting and unnecessary voice acting and all of its voice acting was bad as was because the voice acting was so unrealistic darn that horrible ear piercing voice acting curse that wretched loud voice acting!
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SS' difficulty was just right. if fi was spoiling any puzzles for you, then you probably need to get your head checked.
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#5 GreekGameManiac
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@ WreckEm & Bruno

No,you're both wrong.

SS is actually somewhat easier than the likes of OoT & TP.

Bruno,i'm disappointed at you.

Lol."just right"?

:S omg,did we play the same game?

It's one of the easiest Zeldas,up there with TP and PH!

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#7 WreckEm711
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You do realize Zelda isn't a hard series right..? Skyward Sword provides a challenge at least in many sections, TP was a snorefest of easy.

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#8 GreekGameManiac
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You do realize Zelda isn't a hard series right..? Skyward Sword provides a challenge at least in many sections, TP was a snorefest of easy.

WreckEm711

TP was super easy,but the entire style of SS made it seem abit easier.

And read around,initially SS was supposed to be way harder,but they nerfed it.

>_>

Sure,the past few generations aren't hard,but they really softened over the years!

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#9 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

You do realize Zelda isn't a hard series right..? Skyward Sword provides a challenge at least in many sections, TP was a snorefest of easy.

GreekGameManiac

TP was super easy,but the entire style of SS made it seem abit easier.

And read around,initially SS was supposed to be way harder,but they nerfed it.

>_>

Sure,the past few generations aren't hard,but they really softened over the years!

Err, care to source that?
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#10 GreekGameManiac
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[QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

You do realize Zelda isn't a hard series right..? Skyward Sword provides a challenge at least in many sections, TP was a snorefest of easy.

WreckEm711

TP was super easy,but the entire style of SS made it seem abit easier.

And read around,initially SS was supposed to be way harder,but they nerfed it.

>_>

Sure,the past few generations aren't hard,but they really softened over the years!

Err, care to source that?

What,the interview?

Search google,or ZU files.

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#11 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="GreekGameManiac"]

TP was super easy,but the entire style of SS made it seem abit easier.

And read around,initially SS was supposed to be way harder,but they nerfed it.

>_>

Sure,the past few generations aren't hard,but they really softened over the years!

GreekGameManiac

Err, care to source that?

What,the interview?

Search google,or ZU files.

Err, no, if you're saying it was supposed to be harder but they nerfed it, burden of proof is on you, not me.

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#12 GreekGameManiac
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-_-

That's really stupid,i don't lie!

:S

And i can't post links,GS won't let me.

Omg,are you seriously doubting me???

:S

I can't believe you're doing that.

Look it up,god.

Or better,when a fan tells you something,take their word.

Shigeru Miyamoto said that it was alot more challenging when he played an earlier version.

:/

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#13 haziqonfire
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None of the 3D Zelda games have been hard. I haven't played Majora's Mask, but Ocarina of Time , Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks have all been relatively easy.
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#14 Sepewrath
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No Zelda game is hard outside of Zelda II, its a not series designed for having you run into a brick wall.
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#15 chocolate1325
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Play Hero Mode then.

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the combat often left you almost dead (especially against multiple stalfos, i love those parts), and the bosses were challenging. the puzzles don't halt your progression, but they're not moronic and do feel rewarding to solve. as for the spirit challenges, the last two were rather challenging, even though i did all of them on the first try. this is zelda, not ninja gaiden.
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#17 1PMrFister
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

You do realize Zelda isn't a hard series right..? Skyward Sword provides a challenge at least in many sections, TP was a snorefest of easy.

GreekGameManiac

TP was super easy,but the entire style of SS made it seem abit easier.

And read around,initially SS was supposed to be way harder,but they nerfed it.

>_>

Sure,the past few generations aren't hard,but they really softened over the years!

I think you're confused here. Twilight Princess was the game that was nerfed in difficulty. Skyward Sword is still harder. Personally, I almost died on both the first and final boss, something I never even came close to in TP. And then there's hero mode...
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#18 Renegade_Fury
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Skyward Sword is super easy, and I'm talking mainly about the puzzles. Usually in Zelda games, I always come across a part where I can get stuck for a while, but not in this one, and no, I didn't even talk to Fi. The dungeons were interesting and fun, but like Phantom Hourglass, they were just so damn obvious how to complete, so it took out a little bit of the challenge. Even TP was better at this IMO.

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#19 turtlethetaffer
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Twilight Princess was, to me, the easiest Zelda game, and that includes Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, etc. Being easy isn't inherently bad though.

I liked the difficulty of SS. It wasn't overly challenging, but you needed to be always alert and on your toes. Otherwise you wouldn't survive.

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#20 WreckEm711
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-_-

That's really stupid,i don't lie!

:S

And i can't post links,GS won't let me.

Omg,are you seriously doubting me???

:S

I can't believe you're doing that.

Look it up,god.

Or better,when a fan tells you something,take their word.

Shigeru Miyamoto said that it was alot more challenging when he played an earlier version.

:/

GreekGameManiac

Wow, you took that way beyond what it was. :? It has nothing to do with saying you're a liar or not, I'm stating one opinion, you're stating another opinion, I just want to know where you're getting your information from because even the super critical gamespot review didn't criticize the difficulty. Not to mention the whole "go look it up" thing to other people for your sources is lame.

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#21 wiifan001
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TC, (and anyone else is free to answer as well) which Zelda games do you consider to be the right difficulty?
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#22 ryguy64
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Part of the problem I have as a Zelda fan is that I've grown up playing these games. The puzzles are becoming stagnant, and I know how I have to think to make it through a Zelda game. Skyward Sword was more difficult for me combat wise than other Zelda games, but puzzle wise, I breezed through it.

The only time I really got stuck in Twilight Princess was in the Temple of Time on the big scale. And that was because I didn't realize you could throw the weights onto the other scale when it was high and you were low. I tried 2-3 times, thought it was impossible and didn't try again. I found a way to work around it though. Took some time. (there is a challenge for all of you... play that room again, but no throwing weights from the low scale to the high scale). The combat was easy in twilight, except in the 50 level pit, and only towards the end did it get difficult.

As for the game that is about right difficulty wise, I would say Majora's Mask. I think it is the hardest of the 3D games.

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#23 DaBrainz
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SS was not difficult but it was more challenging than any other 3D zelda.
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#24 trugs26
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It's the easiest Zelda since PH!!!

GreekGameManiac

PH came out 2 games before SS. So this statement isn't saying much, lol.

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]TC, (and anyone else is free to answer as well) which Zelda games do you consider to be the right difficulty?

All of them are fine. Games not gonna suddenly be better because I die a lot.
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]TC, (and anyone else is free to answer as well) which Zelda games do you consider to be the right difficulty?Sepewrath
All of them are fine. Games not gonna suddenly be better because I die a lot.

And I'm on the same page.

But with TC implying that Skyward Sword is too easy, the easiest since PH (even though the other only freekin Zelda title between them is Spirit Tracks), it suggests there are previously released Zelda titles where he is satisfied with a higher level of difficulty back then.

I ask, mostly towards TC, which: OoT? the Oracle games? ALttP?

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]TC, (and anyone else is free to answer as well) which Zelda games do you consider to be the right difficulty?

combat wise, i'd say SS is the only one that nailed it. tough at some parts, but never too much. just challenging enough to feel rewarding. ALttP and the first game are a bit on the hard side IMO. keeping yourself alive on those games can be a pain sometimes. puzzle-wise, they're fine, though i did have to check a walkthrough a few times in OoT and MM (and a lot of times in ALttP >.>)
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#28 ANIMEguy10034
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Are the puzzles in Skyward Sword easier than Twilight Princess? Not sure. I have to replay both to judge.

Is the combat in Skyward Sword easier than Twilight Princess? NO! NOOOOOO!

Twilight Princess has the easiest combat out of the 3D Zeldas. You barely die in the game because enemy attacks range from 1/4 of a heart to 1 heart. You can waggle/mash your way to victory and easily do those epic black slices and helm splitters whenever you are in a tight situation (Cave of Ordeals -- the only challenge in TP). Ganondorf was a pathetic boss. Actually, all the bosses were pathetic. There were many epic situations and scenery, but their attacks were feeble.

Skyward Sword forces you to be on your toes. You have to be patient and examine your enemy before attacking. You'll die if you waggle because, unlike Twilight Princess, enemies can block your attacks. Enemies in Skyward Sword hit harder than the ones from Twilight Princess; reason why you start out with 6 hearts instead of 3.

Most Zelda games are not difficult, but Skyward Sword is definitely more difficult than Twilight Princess when it comes to combat. We also have to keep in mind that we become more experienced as we age. Something that was difficult years ago could be easy today.

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#29 da_chub
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1st playthough i thought SS was just like any other zelda game, but better controls. 2nd time though, with hero mode, i thought it required more patience then dark souls did and it might not have been as much of a penalty when dying, but it was just as hard. im sick of all these people who have such high expectations that no matter how good of a game most nintendo dev games are, people still hate on it.
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#30 GreekGameManiac
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Wow, you took that way beyond what it was. :? It has nothing to do with saying you're a liar or not, I'm stating one opinion, you're stating another opinion, I just want to know where you're getting your information from because even the super critical gamespot review didn't criticize the difficulty. Not to mention the whole "go look it up" thing to other people for your sources is lame.

WreckEm711

Well,it won't let me post links.:/

And just because GS didn't include the low difficulty among the game's flaws doesn't mean anything.

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I can't see how everyone say TP was the easiest Zelda....:(

Between TP and other Zeldas, TP at least provides ways to amp up its difficulty like playing ALWAYS with Zora Tunic equipped which meant certain death if you got hit by most elemental attacks. Even its three hearts challenge seem hell of a lot harder than previous Zeldas. Playing the game like that made it so much more enjoyable knowing you had to ALWAYS play at your best. Dark nut fights were epic playing with just three hearts IMO. Of course though, I've also never played with shields either...

Gave me a real reason to go into dungeons with my bottles stocked with fairies and potions. Hell, it gave me reason to travel anywhere stocked....

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#32 vguy555
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I thought the difficulty was just fine. With the improved combat, some of the regular Zelda enemies took some time to adjust to. The Silent Realms weren't really hard, but I just didn't enjoy them at all. If you're a perfectionist, trying to get all the heart pieces from those annoying minigames could be quite difficult.

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#33 meetroid8
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I can't see how everyone say TP was the easiest Zelda....:(

Between TP and other Zeldas, TP at least provides ways to amp up its difficulty like playing ALWAYS with Zora Tunic equipped which meant certain death if you got hit by most elemental attacks. Even its three hearts challenge seem hell of a lot harder than previous Zeldas. Playing the game like that made it so much more enjoyable knowing you had to ALWAYS play at your best. Dark nut fights were epic playing with just three hearts IMO. Of course though, I've also never played with shields either...

Gave me a real reason to go into dungeons with my bottles stocked with fairies and potions. Hell, it gave me reason to travel anywhere stocked....

tocool340
If I have to severely handicap myself in order for the game to be a challenge, the difficulty is very flawed. Skyward Sword is the most difficult Zelda since Majora's Mask, WW and TP were pathetic.
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#34 tocool340
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[QUOTE="tocool340"]

I can't see how everyone say TP was the easiest Zelda....:(

Between TP and other Zeldas, TP at least provides ways to amp up its difficulty like playing ALWAYS with Zora Tunic equipped which meant certain death if you got hit by most elemental attacks. Even its three hearts challenge seem hell of a lot harder than previous Zeldas. Playing the game like that made it so much more enjoyable knowing you had to ALWAYS play at your best. Dark nut fights were epic playing with just three hearts IMO. Of course though, I've also never played with shields either...

Gave me a real reason to go into dungeons with my bottles stocked with fairies and potions. Hell, it gave me reason to travel anywhere stocked....

meetroid8
If I have to severely handicap myself in order for the game to be a challenge, the difficulty is very flawed. Skyward Sword is the most difficult Zelda since Majora's Mask, WW and TP were pathetic.

How is that handicapping yourself when all the items you get are just optional?...:? Heart container is there, don't mean you have to get it. Shields are there, don't mean you need to equip it. The only mandatory things you have to get are the items in each dungeon in order to advance. I've always consider getting heart containers as a way to make the game easier as they aren't a mandatory thing to pick up. I haven't played Skyward Sword (yet) so I can't comment about its difficulty, I was just bringing up TP since everyone called it an easy game though in my opinion it a lot harder than the other Zelda game if you decided to play through it with just three heart containers....
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#35 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="tocool340"]

I can't see how everyone say TP was the easiest Zelda....:(

Between TP and other Zeldas, TP at least provides ways to amp up its difficulty like playing ALWAYS with Zora Tunic equipped which meant certain death if you got hit by most elemental attacks. Even its three hearts challenge seem hell of a lot harder than previous Zeldas. Playing the game like that made it so much more enjoyable knowing you had to ALWAYS play at your best. Dark nut fights were epic playing with just three hearts IMO. Of course though, I've also never played with shields either...

Gave me a real reason to go into dungeons with my bottles stocked with fairies and potions. Hell, it gave me reason to travel anywhere stocked....

tocool340
If I have to severely handicap myself in order for the game to be a challenge, the difficulty is very flawed. Skyward Sword is the most difficult Zelda since Majora's Mask, WW and TP were pathetic.

How is that handicapping yourself when all the items you get are just optional?...:? Heart container is there, don't mean you have to get it. Shields are there, don't mean you need to equip it. The only mandatory things you have to get are the items in each dungeon in order to advance. I've always consider getting heart containers as a way to make the game easier as they aren't a mandatory thing to pick up. I haven't played Skyward Sword (yet) so I can't comment about its difficulty, I was just bringing up TP since everyone called it an easy game though in my opinion it a lot harder than the other Zelda game if you decided to play through it with just three heart containers....

Getting more hearts is a major part of the game. Heart pieces are by and large the most common of all rewards for completing sidequests and discovering hidden chests. Character progression is also a major part of the game, much of which is done through the increased strength inherit in having more health. Getting the heart containers is integral part of the experience, for me at least. Later enemies are designed with the idea that the player has a significant number of hearts, so if you go at them with fewer hearts than the developers were expecting the player to have at the point you are putting yourself at a disadvantage, and thus handicapping yourself.
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What I don't understand is why people equate dying with difficulty. Any idiot can make a game where you die all the time, that doesn't make it difficult.
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#37 tocool340
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[QUOTE="tocool340"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] If I have to severely handicap myself in order for the game to be a challenge, the difficulty is very flawed. Skyward Sword is the most difficult Zelda since Majora's Mask, WW and TP were pathetic.meetroid8
How is that handicapping yourself when all the items you get are just optional?...:? Heart container is there, don't mean you have to get it. Shields are there, don't mean you need to equip it. The only mandatory things you have to get are the items in each dungeon in order to advance. I've always consider getting heart containers as a way to make the game easier as they aren't a mandatory thing to pick up. I haven't played Skyward Sword (yet) so I can't comment about its difficulty, I was just bringing up TP since everyone called it an easy game though in my opinion it a lot harder than the other Zelda game if you decided to play through it with just three heart containers....

Getting more hearts is a major part of the game. Heart pieces are by and large the most common of all rewards for completing sidequests and discovering hidden chests. Character progression is also a major part of the game, much of which is done through the increased strength inherit in having more health. Getting the heart containers is integral part of the experience, for me at least. Later enemies are designed with the idea that the player has a significant number of hearts, so if you go at them with fewer hearts than the developers were expecting the player to have at the point you are putting yourself at a disadvantage, and thus handicapping yourself.

I think developers weren't focused on how many heart container you may have as the reason why monster difficulty increase because if that were the case, they would have forced you to get those hearts expansions like they did in Link to the Past instead of making them optional. It has more to do with the progression of the game itself as the player get familiar with controlling Link and some of the items in dungeon designed to make things easier for you as the game progresses like the Bow and arrow or bombs. So to me, its not a disadvantage as you are still getting more powerful as game goes on. Adding in learning new sword skil1s from the golden wolf, which gives me more of an impression that devs were expecting you to get others given how many newer enemies seemed designed to be fought with other skills, you definitely become more than powerful enough to go through the game with just three hearts.

If there's anything that I mention that was handicapped to me in my previous post, it would be equipping the Zora Tunic, which its designs were made specifically for underwater exploring more so than on land combat, and playing without a shield which is self explanatory given how Link needs a way to guard against attacks....

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#38 tocool340
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What I don't understand is why people equate dying with difficulty. Any idiot can make a game where you die all the time, that doesn't make it difficult. Sepewrath
SMH... That's the point of difficulty. Heart expansions serve no real purpose in TP other than to make the game easier for you. Considering its optional, you don't have to pick it up. Its not like LttP where you given no choice but to pick it up, or MM where having the maximum number of hearts is required to acquire a specific item. If something was added to the game with no specific function other than making the game easier, and if given the option not to use it, is it really an idiot move to continue on without it?....

However that was my original point. Unlike other Zelda games, you are given ways to amped the difficulty while still playing at your best. If you are able to be killed its because the game is more difficult to play not because of anything else...

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I don't think I've ever played a difficult zelda... they all have about the same level of difficulty (except for the original NES games).
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#40 meetroid8
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I think developers weren't focused on how many heart container you may have as the reason why monster difficulty increase because if that were the case, they would have forced you to get those hearts expansions like they did in Link to the Past instead of making them optional. It has more to do with the progression of the game itself as the player get familiar with controlling Link and some of the items in dungeon designed to make things easier for you as the game progresses like the Bow and arrow or bombs. So to me, its not a disadvantage as you are still getting more powerful as game goes on. Adding in learning new sword skil1s from the golden wolf, which gives me more of an impression that devs were expecting you to get others given how many newer enemies seemed designed to be fought with other skills, you definitely become more than powerful enough to go through the game with just three hearts.

If there's anything that I mention that was handicapped to me in my previous post, it would be equipping the Zora Tunic, which its designs were made specifically for underwater exploring more so than on land combat, and playing without a shield which is self explanatory given how Link needs a way to guard against attacks....

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Not taking advantage of extra hearts is putting yourself at a disadvantage against enemies that do high damage. No that it matters in TP, since no enemy does more than single heart's worth anyway.