any RTS planned for the wii u? u think itd be a good idea?

some games look like theyd be a perfect fit for a console, and i cant look at the wii u and not think "playing command and conquer on this would be awesome". at least if it was handled the way im imagining.

do you think a rts would be a neat experience on the wii u? if not why not? any specific genre of game you think would be perfect for the wii u?

I think that actually would work.

The wii was in a much better position for an RTS than the wiiu is and it never got one. the chances of the wiiu getting one would be even less.

RTS games do not translate well to consoles, that is, unless they utilize a mouse and keyboard. Someone would have to more or less reinvent the way those games are played for a controller, or touch screen alone, for it to work.

There are just too many commands, and too few buttons, for things to work out. I remember Starcraft for the N64...the control scheme was a nightmare. Halo Wars was better, I suppose, but after my long stint in Starcraft II, I just couldn't go back to that.

Sure, you could substitute the mouse for the Wii Remote, or gamepad, in this case, but the other hand still won't have quick access to enough buttons for the controls to flow well.

Of course, you have the gamepad and Wii remote, two awesome RTS controllers. 

RTS games do not translate well to consoles, that is, unless they utilize a mouse and keyboard. Someone would have to more or less reinvent the way those games are played for a controller, or touch screen alone, for it to work.

There are just too many commands, and too few buttons, for things to work out. I remember Starcraft for the N64...the control scheme was a nightmare. Halo Wars was better, I suppose, but after my long stint in Starcraft II, I just couldn't go back to that.

Sure, you could substitute the mouse for the Wii Remote, or gamepad, in this case, but the other hand still won't have quick access to enough buttons for the controls to flow well.

GreatExarch

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RTS games do not translate well to consoles, that is, unless they utilize a mouse and keyboard. Someone would have to more or less reinvent the way those games are played for a controller, or touch screen alone, for it to work.

There are just too many commands, and too few buttons, for things to work out. I remember Starcraft for the N64...the control scheme was a nightmare. Halo Wars was better, I suppose, but after my long stint in Starcraft II, I just couldn't go back to that.

Sure, you could substitute the mouse for the Wii Remote, or gamepad, in this case, but the other hand still won't have quick access to enough buttons for the controls to flow well.

PurpleMan5000

If you're going to select units with the touch screen, then the whole game will have to be played off the TV.

Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem should be out sometime this year if I'm not mistaken and it's my most anticipated title of the year.

If they're going to do any other RTS, the only other one should be Starcraft 2. It has the community (on PC, not so sure how it would fair on a console) and the touchscreen and WiiMotes offer just as much precision as the Mouse and Keyboard for that as long as the Touchscreen is implemented correctly that is.

Pikmin 3.

I would like to see a Advance Wars game for the U, which is a TBS but that doesn't really matter to me.

Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem should be out sometime this year if I'm not mistaken and it's my most anticipated title of the year.

If they're going to do any other RTS, the only other one should be Starcraft 2. It has the community (on PC, not so sure how it would fair on a console) and the touchscreen and WiiMotes offer just as much precision as the Mouse and Keyboard for that as long as the Touchscreen is implemented correctly that is.

nini200

I always wanted a solid RTS for the Wii, it just made sense to me.  The WiiMote would act like a mouse.  Of course there would be some major limitations due to the controller functions, but it was at least worth a shot.  A lot better shot than all that crappy shovel-ware that killed the Wii!

How are you going to use the touchscreen if your thumbs are on the control sticks?

That's a lot of icons you're putting on the touch screen. Think about this: You're actively watching the TV screen, because that's where the game is, and you have to feel your way among this maze of touch screen buttons. Without being able to feel where the buttons are, this would be a big problem.

As above said, how would you select units with the touch screen? That would involve looking down at it, and leaving all that other stuff on the main screen. That would irritate me to no end, and in Starcraft result in you being very dead.

Why does the moust work so well for this? You don't have to look down at the mouse. You can feel it, and move it around. Adjustments of the mouse are readily apparent on the screen in front of you.

Why does the keyboard work so well? You can operate it entirely by feel. That's how most of us type. You don't have to look down to keep track of where everything is, it's always in the same place. And if you do lose your place, you can feel around for certain landmarks to regain your composure.

Also, the gamepad screen would probably be too small for all this. It gives me a headache just thinking about all that stuff packed onto a handheld screen.

As I said, for it to work, the RTS genre would have to be significantly altered. Especially in the way it controls.

i think rts wuld be fun, but i dont think it would be a big seller, so no, not good idea.

they need big hits right now.

How are you going to use the touchscreen if your thumbs are on the control sticks?

That's a lot of icons you're putting on the touch screen. Think about this: You're actively watching the TV screen, because that's where the game is, and you have to feel your way among this maze of touch screen buttons. Without being able to feel where the buttons are, this would be a big problem.

As above said, how would you select units with the touch screen? That would involve looking down at it, and leaving all that other stuff on the main screen. That would irritate me to no end, and in Starcraft result in you being very dead.

Why does the moust work so well for this? You don't have to look down at the mouse. You can feel it, and move it around. Adjustments of the mouse are readily apparent on the screen in front of you.

Why does the keyboard work so well? You can operate it entirely by feel. That's how most of us type. You don't have to look down to keep track of where everything is, it's always in the same place. And if you do lose your place, you can feel around for certain landmarks to regain your composure.

Also, the gamepad screen would probably be too small for all this. It gives me a headache just thinking about all that stuff packed onto a handheld screen.

As I said, for it to work, the RTS genre would have to be significantly altered. Especially in the way it controls.

GreatExarch

This is why the wiimote/nunchuck is way better suited for an RTS than the gamepad. You can select units with the pointer, the A and B button are essentially your left and right click. You can drag over multiple units, and attach multiple units to a d-pad direction as a quick select for groups. you can have a wheel of commands tied to the anaolg stick. It would be super convenient for a simple RTS.

The Wii was certainly better suited for an RTS, but it would still have to simplify things quite a bit for it to work. Just not enough buttons.

I can't really think of a good way to bring things in an RTS down to that level, and, to be honest, if it was that simple, you wouldn't have hardened RTS fans jumping at it. Without them, any RTS is going to have mediocre sales performance, since it's such a niche genre these days.

and who said there needs to be alot of commands?  they could make a simplified rts  that is easy to play yet still so fun  ,   why is it everyone always thinks just cause a computer has all these commands that a console version must as well - sorry pal ,  if they want to do an rts its up to them  ,   i honestly dont care for it ,    if i ts not mario zelda 007 nascar mariokart marioparty fzero starfox 1080 kid icaris wave race pilot wings nintendogs etc etc its not really gonna sell systems 

The Wii was certainly better suited for an RTS, but it would still have to simplify things quite a bit for it to work. Just not enough buttons.

I can't really think of a good way to bring things in an RTS down to that level, and, to be honest, if it was that simple, you wouldn't have hardened RTS fans jumping at it. Without them, any RTS is going to have mediocre sales performance, since it's such a niche genre these days.

GreatExarch

Personally, I'd love to see an RTS on Wii U using either the GamePad or Wiimote/nunhuck. Even if it didn't have a depth of a PC RTS it would still be a considerable step up from using a typical console controller.